Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jan 27, 2020 15:23:00 GMT
Not sure if nonup equipments can keep their super refinement after upping them, say you max super refined a noup struggler to def 30 before upping it 2 times, would the 1st up be def 35 and the last up be def 40? Or would it be reset and you have to do it all over again upon upgrading? it would be nice if this hypothesis could be tested, and if it works then super refining noup equipments could be a cost effective way to make max super refined equipments due to lower normal refining fees Yes t sr on ns equip keep its quality level. I do t test on venom prison ns to q19. Its max is q20. T fail at q20 make me give up. I still can do t q20 tou after using arm slotter. Yes lot easier sr an ns equip coz only get penalty -1. 1slot get 2penalty -1 n -2. 2slot is nightmare get 3penalty -1 n -2 n -3. Recomended to use hihiirokane for refining 2slot. oh i see thank you very much, glad to know our efforts won't be in vain if we super refine a noup equipment before upping them
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x2nd
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Post by x2nd on Jan 27, 2020 15:24:36 GMT
x2nd just curious would you be able to test an armor that is about say quality 4 and upgrade it and then check fort bailune blacksmith to see if it kept its super refinement? just want to know if this would be a cost effective way of making last up max sr equipments xD Yea it keeps its quality. I do it from q0 on venom prison ns
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jan 27, 2020 15:40:05 GMT
x2nd just curious would you be able to test an armor that is about say quality 4 and upgrade it and then check fort bailune blacksmith to see if it kept its super refinement? just want to know if this would be a cost effective way of making last up max sr equipments xD Yea it keeps its quality. I do it from q0 on venom prison ns oh i see that is great to know, and to clarify i meant on armors that have upgrades in specific town blacksmiths that require materials that are uncommon or rare drops from mobs or bosses, and i was wondering that if we are to super refine those kinds of armor if they keep their quality after material upgrading them in the specific blacksmith towns like ioleu village and aqruf town you see sorry if i wasn't clear earlier xD
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x2nd
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Post by x2nd on Jan 27, 2020 21:51:19 GMT
Yea it keeps its quality. I do it from q0 on venom prison ns oh i see that is great to know, and to clarify i meant on armors that have upgrades in specific town blacksmiths that require materials that are uncommon or rare drops from mobs or bosses, and i was wondering that if we are to super refine those kinds of armor if they keep their quality after material upgrading them in the specific blacksmith towns like ioleu village and aqruf town you see sorry if i wasn't clear earlier xD I think it keeps its quality coz quality doesnt affected by upgrade. T value of q30 on weapon n t value of q20 on arm n add is t same regardless from initial starting super refine wether we upgraded before super refine or not yet upgraded. Failing n succeding super refine only make normal refine to +0. Failing sr still hv previous quality. Succeeding make quality increase +1. Once max sr reach it will remains on t equip except for weapon that used for finishing stroke without supernatural or it used to upgrade ability that can lower quality if fail. Afaik never heard player starting again sr from q0 after upgrading t item.
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jan 27, 2020 22:12:00 GMT
oh i see that is great to know, and to clarify i meant on armors that have upgrades in specific town blacksmiths that require materials that are uncommon or rare drops from mobs or bosses, and i was wondering that if we are to super refine those kinds of armor if they keep their quality after material upgrading them in the specific blacksmith towns like ioleu village and aqruf town you see sorry if i wasn't clear earlier xD I think it keeps its quality coz quality doesnt affected by upgrade. T value of q30 on weapon n t value of q20 on arm n add is t same regardless from initial starting super refine wether we upgraded before super refine or not yet upgraded. Failing n succeding super refine only make normal refine to +0. Failing sr still hv previous quality. Succeeding make quality increase +1. Once max sr reach it will remains on t equip except for weapon that used for finishing stroke without supernatural or it used to upgrade ability that can lower quality if fail. Afaik never heard player starting again sr from q0 after upgrading t item. Oh i see i understand now so if i max sr a struggler with noup to def 30 it should be def 40 keeping its quality once i upgrade it 2 times thank you so much for the clarification
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jul 3, 2020 5:53:52 GMT
I SR my Ira S to Q20 and my Reincarnation Shield Up S to Q10, that did cost around 1B in Orichalcums and several hours refining. The worst thing is that at Q7 Ira failed 7 consecutive times.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jul 3, 2020 5:58:05 GMT
And I do not know if it's me or what. Once I started to SR, the SR things started to be harder to refine, literally Orichalcum was failing like half of the times even at +5, and degraded to +3 using only Orichalcums.
Once I spent 1.5 Ori stacks just to end up at +5.
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Rocketpower
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Post by Rocketpower on Jul 3, 2020 6:20:34 GMT
And I do not know if it's me or what. Once I started to SR, the SR things started to be harder to refine, literally Orichalcum was failing like half of the times even at +5, and degraded to +3 using only Orichalcums. Once I spent 1.5 Ori stacks just to end up at +5. . It's normal
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jul 5, 2020 6:59:21 GMT
Also I noticed that with higher ★Drop on fortune my equip tend to succeed more often on refining. Plus as shittier my wifi is, refine fails more.
Or it's just a pretty bad luck, because sometimes I use 3 ori stk to just do a simple +9.
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Post by xenocide on Jun 30, 2021 2:46:19 GMT
Just to share my experience
Refining with 1.5x success rate event @dyron: Armor 2s Q0 -> Q20 = 25 stk of ori (no use of +5/+6/+7 ores)
Without any refining event: Armor 2s Q0 -> Q20 = 38 stk of ori (use of +5/+6/+7 ores)
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