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Post by McPoopNugget on Sept 23, 2019 5:57:54 GMT
I made the first one and almost finished it until I messed up and deleted all of it by pressing the home button lol. So for short I'mma just simplify things instead.
Vit/Crt/Str/Dex
Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter.
Bellow of Order (Atk up by Str)
Monty Beret (Atk up by Dex)
Any special (can't use things like Disaster Stone because you're building Vit)
Has anyone tried it before? Is it stronger than the other builds? If you know something I'd like to know because the builds and gears to go with them for Gladiators don't really appeal and are easily messed up.
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Post by x2nd on Sept 23, 2019 8:48:44 GMT
I made the first one and almost finished it until I messed up and deleted all of it by pressing the home button lol. So for short I'mma just simplify things instead. Vit/Crt/Str/Dex Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter. Bellow of Order (Atk up by Str) Monty Beret (Atk up by Dex) Any special (can't use things like Disaster Stone because you're building Vit) Has anyone tried it before? Is it stronger than the other builds? If you know something I'd like to know because the builds and gears to go with them for Gladiators don't really appeal and are easily messed up. "Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter." I think crt receive penalty by using spec sword. If not mistaken vit2 dex1,5 str1 crt-1 on spec sword. If normal sword maybe str3 dex1 if not mistaken remember. So more bonus by using str especialy if use boo Bellow of Order (Strengthened 1) [Armor] 📷 ATK: 10 DEF: 25 Melee&Magic R +13%, ATK up by STR MATK up by INT, Skill delay -1.2sec Damage cut chance by defense Melee R +13% Magic R +13% Skill Delay -1.2s [X = 1.20 * STR] [ATK up by X] [X = 1.20 * INT] [MATK up by X] Autoskill
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Post by °Malice° on Sept 23, 2019 10:40:12 GMT
Spec sword user 'strong' in survival. Normal sword 'strong' in damage. Its all depends on ur definition of 'strong'.
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Post by McPoopNugget on Sept 23, 2019 11:53:00 GMT
I made the first one and almost finished it until I messed up and deleted all of it by pressing the home button lol. So for short I'mma just simplify things instead. Vit/Crt/Str/Dex Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter. Bellow of Order (Atk up by Str) Monty Beret (Atk up by Dex) Any special (can't use things like Disaster Stone because you're building Vit) Has anyone tried it before? Is it stronger than the other builds? If you know something I'd like to know because the builds and gears to go with them for Gladiators don't really appeal and are easily messed up. "Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter." I think crt receive penalty by using spec sword. If not mistaken vit2 dex1,5 str1 crt-1 on spec sword. If normal sword maybe str3 dex1 if not mistaken remember. So more bonus by using str especialy if use boo Bellow of Order (Strengthened 1) [Armor] 📷 ATK: 10 DEF: 25 Melee&Magic R +13%, ATK up by STR MATK up by INT, Skill delay -1.2sec Damage cut chance by defense Melee R +13% Magic R +13% Skill Delay -1.2s [X = 1.20 * STR] [ATK up by X] [X = 1.20 * INT] [MATK up by X] Autoskill That's my bad. I thought Crt didn't affect anything because Samu's have a variation of this build too, I thought they had Crt. But I guess not. I guess I'll try to change it a bit
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Post by McPoopNugget on Sept 23, 2019 11:56:54 GMT
Spec sword user 'strong' in survival. Normal sword 'strong' in damage. Its all depends on ur definition of 'strong'. I agree normal sword is strong but I'd just want input on other's experience. This build brings questions for the people who can't afford the good weap. like Legacy of Will 2 which varies in prices a lot for slot and S.Blade6 which is a yikes lol. With slot and some changes on the build I'm sure it could cost just about 200m (of course this price will change over time and of demand). Me being one of those people haha.
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Post by x2nd on Sept 23, 2019 12:57:08 GMT
"Mirror Sword SR [(Special Sword) Atk up by Vit and Str] You can actually use any Special Swords in the Mirror Swords catergory it doesn't matter." I think crt receive penalty by using spec sword. If not mistaken vit2 dex1,5 str1 crt-1 on spec sword. If normal sword maybe str3 dex1 if not mistaken remember. So more bonus by using str especialy if use boo Bellow of Order (Strengthened 1) [Armor] 📷 ATK: 10 DEF: 25 Melee&Magic R +13%, ATK up by STR MATK up by INT, Skill delay -1.2sec Damage cut chance by defense Melee R +13% Magic R +13% Skill Delay -1.2s [X = 1.20 * STR] [ATK up by X] [X = 1.20 * INT] [MATK up by X] Autoskill That's my bad. I thought Crt didn't affect anything because Samu's have a variation of this build too, I thought they had Crt. But I guess not. I guess I'll try to change it a bit I think some samu hv crt coz they want to complete t gap between absolute clarity (crt = lvl) n crt maximum alocation (256+apos crt training level) Example at cap lv 390 with cap apos lv 195 will gv room for stat reach 256+195 = 451 stat pts. Abs clarity skill gv 390 crt at lvl 390 so still hv gap 61 crt. If wanna fully cap crt with t help abs clarity still need to add 61 crt in stat. I might wrong tou coz dont hv samu
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Post by Aza on Sept 23, 2019 13:42:07 GMT
Hello, I hope I can give u some insight. I don't have gladi tho.
Let's assume your stat is like this: 400 VIT 200 STR 400 DEX 400 CRT
With Normal sword you get 3x200 + 1x400=1000 With Spec Sword you get 2x400 + 1.5x400 + 1x200 - 1x400=1200
Buut popular normal sword now usually have elemental advantage. Inslector (ATK+15%, Melee to Neutral+25%) vs best ATK spec sword now, Fudo Myoo (ATK+23%) you can already see that Inslector will win, even with heavy VIT build. Lowering CRT in your build is not an option, coz i think Gladi needs CRT.
So, I think it's best to make VIT your 3rd/4th stat (the lowest of the other), since you will be using Normal sword anyway. I'm thinking of this distribution at lvl 390: STR450 CRT450 DEX450 VIT256
Sauro Blade L4 (Melee&Mag Res up by STR) is good too for resistance, and can be obtained from S.chest 3, 15-20m each.
Tbh I never saw dedicated heavy VIT glad out there.
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Post by °Malice° on Sept 23, 2019 14:01:01 GMT
Spec sword user 'strong' in survival. Normal sword 'strong' in damage. Its all depends on ur definition of 'strong'. I agree normal sword is strong but I'd just want input on other's experience. This build brings questions for the people who can't afford the good weap. like Legacy of Will 2 which varies in prices a lot for slot and S.Blade6 which is a yikes lol. With slot and some changes on the build I'm sure it could cost just about 200m (of course this price will change over time and of demand). Me being one of those people haha. i feel u. I play sin n i hate dying :-: now i make a monk n always prioritize survival over damage. Survival build may have lower burst dmg/dps than glass canon build. But imo survival buuld is more less stressful to play when it comes into boss fight.
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Post by Geødude on Sept 23, 2019 14:14:48 GMT
So, I think it's best to make VIT your 3rd/4th stat (the lowest of the other), since you will be using Normal sword anyway. I'm thinking of this distribution at lvl 390: STR450 CRT450 DEX450 VIT256 Kinda going for this build. Just started my gladi journey 3 days ago, and it's been pretty good so far even with just 100 VIT, which, in my experience with BK and Samu, is enough to burst thru all mq. Sauro Blade L4 (Melee&Mag Res up by STR) is good too for resistance, and can be obtained from S.chest 3, 15-20m each. L5/L6 would be great u.u if it isn't for my fear of gachas I would be trying to get one of these. I'm stuck with Rime and Lamia for resistance xD
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Post by godofafro on Sept 23, 2019 23:19:44 GMT
i feel u. I play sin n i hate dying :-: now i make a monk n always prioritize survival over damage. Survival build may have lower burst dmg/dps than glass canon build. But imo survival buuld is more less stressful to play when it comes into boss fight. Yeah, this.. I mained a sin for over 4 years...my experience was that, sins are quite weak without a party to support them. Years later, my usual grind,farm pt died out. It was difficult to find a pt then, afterwards. Meta jobs were reigning and SH was booming. People would pick hackers over you to benefit from fast boss killing. When higher level bosses in ep4,5 and above appeared, I had no other alternative but to play a different job that actually is able to survive those bosses, which was a monk, which shared a common characteristic of a sin - avoidability. I guess I'm quite happy now, there are only a few bosses that I can not solo, them being joshuca, sau400/450 and m.sau400 (excluding some DR bosses as well), but otherwise I quite liked this new job im playing quite actively asn. Even though my huge experience in-game was ultimately due to from an assassin. That's probably why I didn't want the job to die out.. so I made that post to help steer anyone else (if there actually are) to help understand more about it
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Post by mcserg on Sept 26, 2019 21:11:06 GMT
Of using special sword dont forget that crt will lower your atk
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 6:14:18 GMT
I also want to add that a Gladiator without CRT is absolutely useless.
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Post by McPoopNugget on Apr 12, 2020 5:41:20 GMT
I also want to add that a Gladiator without CRT is absolutely useless. I actually spent some time and Spina to do this build sorta, turned out yeah it's kinda poop lol. I read somewhere that crt also increases crt dmg, don't know if that's true or not, but I did so little damage with pillar blade compared to normal. So yeah rip. I guess the only thing to do is raise crt but take the damage penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 18:08:49 GMT
I actually spent some time and Spina to do this build sorta, turned out yeah it's kinda poop lol. I read somewhere that crt also increases crt dmg, don't know if that's true or not, but I did so little damage with pillar blade compared to normal. So yeah rip. I guess the only thing to do is raise crt but take the damage penalty. The "CRT stat increasing Crt dmg" part depends on the class and their skill(s). As for Gladiator, I noticed and am sure that CRT increased my Astute skill dmg. Even when suffering from blind, using my Astute still shows orange number. However, as long as you are NOT blind, Pillar Blade skill has a chance to crit if you have decent amount of CRT stat. I just use Pillar Blade for farming mobs or grinding. If I remembered correctly, Pillar Blade makes the enemy bleed if they are dizzy (thanks to Astute), but the bleed dmg is nothing. Though, enemies suffering from dizzy and bleed should increase your Valkyrie dmg. This is one of many reasons why some Gladiators choose to go for Sword Tempest build (other reason is usually boss farming) because I am certain that Sword Tempest skill always crit like Astute. Though, keep in mind that Sword Tempest needs both AGI to deal decent damage and around -5sec (?) skill delay to spam Sword Tempest.
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