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Post by Kaitora on Aug 3, 2019 14:21:35 GMT
Sup Beast People!!!! in this thread i wanna discussion about Beast Knight spesialy using "NORMAL NAIL" okeey first i will share my BEASTY build my beast lvl 320 Stat : STR 341 AGI 355 CRT 320 VIT 118 AI : 4G 1R gan cean sauro 2 ouvel halios cordal i dont have adventure ai My Gear : Sauro Fang L3 Grapagosh BOO iniliba Force helm Raton Catura Noid My bite only reach 40k with bleed in third eye so in this thread i need know how to reach more damage uWu... maybe u can tell me ur build too xD and how about Black rose chakram is good for bk??
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 3, 2019 15:18:02 GMT
You could use some stronger gear and focus more on attack; there's too much crt dmg now.
Sauro Fang L3 has only 12% ATK, I think there are better claws you can use. For example EDG. And xtal in weapon Sauro II.
For add, I think Barbarotita 3 or Oni Hachigane 4 should give more dmg. Or you can keep the F.Helm for resistance. Xtal Ideaus.
Spec, Ideaus instead of Noid. Or for pure dmg SBS 2x Ideaus.
About other stuff I'm not going to comment since my BK has a different build.
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Post by godofafro on Aug 3, 2019 15:21:04 GMT
Sup Beast People!!!! in this thread i wanna discussion about Beast Knight spesialy using "NORMAL NAIL" okeey first i will share my BEASTY build my beast lvl 320 Stat : STR 341 AGI 355 CRT 320 VIT 118 AI : 4G 1R gan cean sauro 2 ouvel halios cordal i dont have adventure ai My Gear : Sauro Fang L3 Grapagosh BOO iniliba Force helm Raton Catura Noid My bite only reach 40k with bleed in third eye so in this thread i need know how to reach more damage uWu... maybe u can tell me ur build too xD and how about Black rose chakram is good for bk?? To improve your dps, you might want to improve your al and xtals. 1. Gan ceann. Its only good for a user with low aspd, the lower, the better. But in your case... 2. I noticed your al build seems to lean towards high autoskill rate. Now, this isn't inherently bad by itself - it's good for your passives - but you've shortchanged yourself with the equips set up. Put more focus on autoskill equips or on their xtal equivalents (e.g wyn veleno) to bring forth your advantage skywards even better. 3. Grapagos, raton, noid are all old firepower xtals thats not so relevant and useful afterthe rebalance patch.. Look for better atk or elemental boost ones, or go autoskill type. 4. BRC is a good healing claw, it serves its purpose mainly by giving heals tothe user, which is an autoskill proccing by chance. It rivals dragon's claw healing proc, with primary difference is that one is more attack oriented, another is more survival oriented. Both have roughly the same proc chance of heal. Perhaps I would award the points to BRC towards the factor that you're a BK, as the bleeding bonus from BRC somehow works well in your favor.
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Post by Kaitora on Aug 4, 2019 3:03:39 GMT
-what its EDG??
-yes i already try barbarita reup vida vs f. helm raton then barbarita win wth i dont understand -_-
-gan cean has hidden stat right? aspd make atk up??
-u said that raton old xtal?? then what best add xtal right now?
-i think if i put autoskil xtal such us wyn etc, will replace my bite skill right?
sorry i dont understand how to reply ur comments so i make this xD
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Post by x2nd on Aug 4, 2019 8:08:01 GMT
-what its EDG?? -yes i already try barbarita reup vida vs f. helm raton then barbarita win wth i dont understand -_- -gan cean has hidden stat right? aspd make atk up?? -u said that raton old xtal?? then what best add xtal right now? -i think if i put autoskil xtal such us wyn etc, will replace my bite skill right? sorry i dont understand how to reply ur comments so i make this xD EGD evil dog glove. Edg might be t best claw for pure damage irunaonline.boards.net/thread/30451/info-gan-ceannCrt damage from equip n xtal been nerf alot so atk% or melee to element is lot stronger Ideaus mr ori nidgu Idk bout bite
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Post by godofafro on Aug 4, 2019 9:13:24 GMT
-i think if i put autoskil xtal such us wyn etc, will replace my bite skill right? Now that I've thought about it, this may (?) happen? You'll need someone with a BK to give you a definitive ans on this
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 4, 2019 14:20:36 GMT
Uh i have bk around lv 200+. Bk bite will cancel other auto from eq/crysta when bite is proc. It mean other auto wont be proc along when bite is proc. Since bk will have high CRT bite auto will proc more often than other auto. Most auto from job passive relies on CRT to trigger such as double atk/shellbreak. How ever auto upon defend/eva wont be disturbed such as dpr (defend)/ skia (evasion) assassin counter passive
Btw u cant replace bite auto from bk. Its fixed for eternity on all bk.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 5, 2019 23:41:52 GMT
Btw u cant replace bite auto from bk. Its fixed for eternity on all bk. Atm can't check, but couldn't you just disable the skill? In that case you should be able to use other autoskills instead of it.
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 6, 2019 0:22:59 GMT
Btw u cant replace bite auto from bk. Its fixed for eternity on all bk. Atm can't check, but couldn't you just disable the skill? In that case you should be able to use other autoskills instead of it. Hmmm i guess u might think this bite have same mechanic to ninja ni rengenki. Bite is another version of double atk but with hp absorb. The autoskill passive in knight branch cant be consumed. The skill description itself doesnt say it applies on weapon. Ni rengenki is for ninja a special job. The skill itself said that it applies on weapon so it mean this ni rengenki autoskill can be consumed. Correct me if im wrong ... This is the ni rengenki description i got with google translate duplicate attack to attack twice in quick movement. Attach the “twice attack” ability to the equipped weapon. * If the weapon has an auto skill, double fire is invalid. Lv 100Double Strike 1 Ninja Lv 240Double Strike 2 Item-Double Strike Scroll II
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Post by Undyne on Aug 6, 2019 1:28:08 GMT
Turning Double Attack off would solve the issue. If it doesn't proc, Bite won't proc. If Bite doesn't Proc, can't overwrite autoskills. But that also means you don't have Bite increasing the base damage.
But tbh, I wouldn't really recommend Veleno on Beast Knights. If you're going to do that, then why not simply make a Monk that does it more effectively? Not saying Claw beast knight is bad by any means, it does quite well. Just saying you may want to consider whether you like Autoskills, or whether you want Bite and higher base damage.
Really wish Asobimo would just make Autoskills proc on Double attack. Don't understand why they don't when autoskills proc on Shellbreak
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Post by °Malice° on Aug 6, 2019 3:53:46 GMT
Turning Double Attack off would solve the issue. If it doesn't proc, Bite won't proc. If Bite doesn't Proc, can't overwrite autoskills. But that also means you don't have Bite increasing the base damage. But tbh, I wouldn't really recommend Veleno on Beast Knights. If you're going to do that, then why not simply make a Monk that does it more effectively? Not saying Claw beast knight is bad by any means, it does quite well. Just saying you may want to consider whether you like Autoskills, or whether you want Bite and higher base damage. Really wish Asobimo would just make Autoskills proc on Double attack. Don't understand why they don't when autoskills proc on Shellbreak The reason why s.break allowed other autoskill to proc along is because claw monk only rely on auto atk, s.break great on high def target enchance their autoskill dmg too(dps) they dont have burst skills (a skill that deal dmg with multiplier%) until claw monk have finishing blow but it takes time to build the combo pts. Warrior double atk wont allow auto skill proc along because their final job like pally/gladi/bk have lots of burst skill and aoe hybrid. They have wide variety of burst skill. Its fair for me. Next samu. They might be same to monk cuz of cut aspd interval (shippu) but they dont have a passive dat helps to enchance their autoskill or deals great damage on high def target. Dat is why auto samu is best paired with mura/masa shin. It give auto issen and samu have high c.dmg% passive.
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Post by Owe on Aug 7, 2019 20:53:46 GMT
Just going to throw my two cents in IMO going auto attack route with even normal nails on bk isn’t worth it because of all the great damage skills we have. Unfortunately none of those damage skills do anything whatsoever for auto attack lol. The reason you’d choose normal nail over swords for bk to me is the evasion from alleviation. The reason you’d choose normal nail over special nail is the fact that you can use agi more usefully. To me the playstyle stays the same no matter the weapon choice, I guess the only difference is that you can auto attack for heals with claw. Also dat lazy grind That said for normal nail, I reckon mirror claws (x)ag is probably the best weapons for normal nail bk in terms of damage. It gives element dmg, atk%, raw atk points (from raising agi), and magic/absolute evasion I personally use sauro fang l3 though. It’s a great all arounder claw but obviously L4/5 is much better. Also if I was going for max dmg, it’s just mediocre at best. As far as ALs and everything else, I think those are kinda up to what your goals are.
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Post by Kaitora on Aug 10, 2019 16:56:31 GMT
okeey i already read all reply from u guys...
so the conclusion is
bk dont need autoskill xtall, that useless coz cant double proc like monk..
bk nail is very lazines playstle xD
but i like when bk using loctura, like rush on monk.. so i still love bk nail xD
then how about my new gear
sauro fang l4 sauro 2 BOO iniliba barbaroita ideaus spec telon (?) i still dunno about best xtal for special
ai halios gancean ouvel sauro cordal / adventure (?)
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Post by Owe on Aug 13, 2019 2:48:17 GMT
okeey i already read all reply from u guys... so the conclusion is bk dont need autoskill xtall, that useless coz cant double proc like monk.. bk nail is very lazines playstle xD but i like when bk using loctura, like rush on monk.. so i still love bk nail xD then how about my new gear sauro fang l4 sauro 2 BOO iniliba barbaroita ideaus spec telon (?) i still dunno about best xtal for special ai halios gancean ouvel sauro cordal / adventure (?) Looks a lot better a few pointers, I’d probably put ideaus on spec instead of telon (it’s the same atk +% except telon has the negative skill delay). Your al look setup for auto skill % but the only auto skill you have as of now is from BOO, so I’d switch to either more defensive ALs (i.e. Vatendeth or shelk) or more raw dmg ALs (i.e. Ouvel or gatekeeper). You could also go the third route and completely overhaul your equipment if you reallly wanna use locura and auto attack.
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Post by frums2929 on Nov 4, 2019 1:05:36 GMT
Sup Beast People!!!! in this thread i wanna discussion about Beast Knight spesialy using "NORMAL NAIL" okeey first i will share my BEASTY build my beast lvl 320 Stat : STR 341 AGI 355 CRT 320 VIT 118 AI : 4G 1R gan cean sauro 2 ouvel halios cordal i dont have adventure ai My Gear : Sauro Fang L3 Grapagosh BOO iniliba Force helm Raton Catura Noid My bite only reach 40k with bleed in third eye so in this thread i need know how to reach more damage uWu... maybe u can tell me ur build too xD and how about Black rose chakram is good for bk?? how is your casting and skill delay without dex, can you spam skill?, because i want to build non dex bk too
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