Pixie
Member
Profile pic wip by @Acetyl
|
Post by Pixie on Oct 1, 2018 3:07:28 GMT
After b.p i hardly ever see geo monk anymore. Is it just underpowered now or people bored? xD
|
|
|
|
Post by rizen on Oct 1, 2018 11:13:01 GMT
Not really underpowered but after bp, it requires a change of weapon and stat to deal higher damage than before. Because most geo monks use throws but since claws now give higher atk. It is wise to switch to spec claw.
*off topic* lentus is now a passive resu XD
|
|
|
|
Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 1, 2018 16:09:19 GMT
I'm a bit outdated but I'll still share my opinion.
Staying in the Monk community, I studied the Skills release history. Asobimo already had planned to make Geo and Claw type of monk with different play. Also to differentiate skill usage so it'd be hard to make it a hybrid one. (I had a more detailed info somewhere in my notebooks but can't seem to find it) Like Boost HP, Claw Mastery = Claw Monk, Bash and Chakra = Geo Monk. Both were relased as the skills for App. Monk (as a whole). Like this, they released skills for both use of Geo and Monk. But after Panacea release, they started making unbalanced skill releases. Until Asura Aura release, with the number of skills, Geo Monk was better. But after Finishing Blow skill release, Claw Monk is better. When the new skills get released, it'll me more emphasized on Geo Monk. Then you'll see the rise of Geo Monks again.
I hope I gave you the right information.
|
|
Jophes
Member
Loving that Battle Mastery buff
|
Post by Jophes on Oct 1, 2018 16:38:25 GMT
'AhSaN' cmiiw but in your Monk Skills thread, the descriptions for the 320-340 skills seemed to favor the auto attack style gameplay in order to increase some of the gauges or activate certain passives
|
|
Dragsbro
Community Contributor 
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
|
Post by Dragsbro on Oct 1, 2018 17:35:18 GMT
'AhSaN' cmiiw but in your Monk Skills thread, the descriptions for the 320-340 skills seemed to favor the auto attack style gameplay in order to increase some of the gauges or activate certain passives thats kinda what he said, current "new" (still 2 years old uh...) skills favors auto, but he thinks the next ones will favor geos.. (cmiiw dude) |
|
Jophes
Member
Loving that Battle Mastery buff
|
Post by Jophes on Oct 1, 2018 19:40:29 GMT
'AhSaN' cmiiw but in your Monk Skills thread, the descriptions for the 320-340 skills seemed to favor the auto attack style gameplay in order to increase some of the gauges or activate certain passives thats kinda what he said, current "new" (still 2 years old uh...) skills favors auto, but he thinks the next ones will favor geos.. (cmiiw dude) Finishing blow is one of the next skills not a current skill. And from other threads, it looks like auto attacks are used to build up or use the upcoming skills, including finishing blow. Hence, this information is used to try and correct the previous infos given. |
|
Dragsbro
Community Contributor
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
|
Post by Dragsbro on Oct 1, 2018 21:07:51 GMT
thats kinda what he said, current "new" (still 2 years old uh...) skills favors auto, but he thinks the next ones will favor geos.. (cmiiw dude) Finishing blow is one of the next skills not a current skill. And from other threads, it looks like auto attacks are used to build up or use the upcoming skills, including finishing blow. Hence, this information is used to try and correct the previous infos given. .... I know? As i said, the "new" skills, including finishing blow, which are 2 years old on the japanese version, favors autoatk monk What ahsan was saying was, he thinks the future new skills, not yet even announced on the japanese version, would probably favor geo monks |
|
|
|
Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 2, 2018 13:38:46 GMT
Sorry for misunderstanding. Dragsbro is right, I ment the 320-340 as future skills, which I thought was released already. Its been a few months since I quit Iruna, so I thought the skills are released. So that's why I said 320-340 skills are Current skills. Actually It would be future skills. To back up my theory even further, here's a more detailed chart: -1- Claw Mastery - Claw Monk (Geo as well at present) Boost HP - Claw and Geo Chakra - Geo Monk Bash - Geo Monk -2- Shell Break - Claw Monk Rush - Claw Monk Lentus - Claw and Geo -3- Geo Breaker - Geo Monk Lion Roar - Geo Monk Healing - Claw and Geo -4- Panacea - Geo Monk Asura Aura - Claw Monk (Now Geo at present) -5- Reactive Heal - Geo Monk (Now Claw as well with modifications) Martial Arts - Claw Monk Combination - Claw Monk Finishing Blow - Claw Monk As you can see, without the written on the bracket Claw Monk has 10 and Geo Monk has 9 exclusive skills. No.4 had 2 skills that Geo Monks could use, and in No.5, you have 4 of the skills that can be used on Claw Monk effectively, and so, No.4 Geo Monk -> No.5 Claw Monk -> No.6 Geo Monk That's how we can say the next skills update will bring more features for Geo Monks. |
|
x
Member
Have fun n enjoy t game 👍
|
Post by x on Oct 2, 2018 15:50:22 GMT
Sorry for misunderstanding. Dragsbro is right, I ment the 320-340 as future skills, which I thought was released already. Its been a few months since I quit Iruna, so I thought the skills are released. So that's why I said 320-340 skills are Current skills. Actually It would be future skills. To back up my theory even further, here's a more detailed chart: -1- Claw Mastery - Claw Monk (Geo as well at present) Boost HP - Claw and Geo Chakra - Geo Monk Bash - Geo Monk -2- Shell Break - Claw Monk Rush - Claw Monk Lentus - Claw and Geo -3- Geo Breaker - Geo Monk Lion Roar - Geo Monk Healing - Claw and Geo -4- Panacea - Geo Monk Asura Aura - Claw Monk (Now Geo at present) -5- Reactive Heal - Geo Monk (Now Claw as well with modifications) Martial Arts - Claw Monk Combination - Claw Monk Finishing Blow - Claw Monk As you can see, without the written on the bracket Claw Monk has 10 and Geo Monk has 9 exclusive skills. No.4 had 2 skills that Geo Monks could use, and in No.5, you have 4 of the skills that can be used on Claw Monk effectively, and so, No.4 Geo Monk -> No.5 Claw Monk -> No.6 Geo Monk That's how we can say the next skills update will bring more features for Geo Monks. Maybe claw monk that fit above description is str monk. Chakra monk gain nice advantage also from chakra n reactive heal coz hv high int. Ah n also -3sec delay for geo at 360 int for faster geo interval |
|
|
|
Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Oct 2, 2018 22:41:36 GMT
After the BP, Throwing Geo Monks got a massive nerf.
Now Geo Monks would mostly go for Special Claws route, because that Atk boost from Claw Mastery is not a joke, and is that important because the Crt damage nerf.
Ahsan is right, some skills only benefits Auto Monks, some Geo Monks, and some Both.
|
|
|
|
Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 3, 2018 4:53:23 GMT
x You're right. However, the skills given in No.1 (without the brackets) is the ones which Asobimo planned. These skills were the first ones of Monk class and existed way back in the i-mode servers and still remained intact (before BP) when they were implemented in the live servers.
|
|
|
|
Post by sanguinek on Oct 5, 2018 5:20:32 GMT
Had to give up on geo. It was too agitating due to the lack of gear and survival. As an auto monk with ghost ring and high agi I can solo better. Farming is also easier but I still have geo gear just in case
|
|
|
|
Post by rahovart on Oct 20, 2018 4:39:54 GMT
And people used to make fun of me and not understand why I was a hybrid monk. Well at the time is was because I wanted be able to be a nail monk while also being able to get spam geo as long as I had a bishs delay. Worked out for the best it seems.
|
|
ijus
Member
Since dec 2013~
|
Post by ijus on Oct 22, 2018 16:22:30 GMT
Well i do present during bp and do alot off testing during that period(free stat reset)and found that geo monk(spec claw) is actually really strong. 600-700k sb iirc on 3i,sell buff with red candy and mokkaparat+asura full charge(tho i dont dont have ss on this T_T). But then u rarely see one as geo (especially str heavy).geo deplete their mp so fast and survival arent that great at solo(unless u have a max sr on both body&additional). Still a party dependent compare to auto build owo/ i still stick to hybrid build.
|
|
|
|
Post by rahovart on Oct 22, 2018 22:39:07 GMT
Well i do present during bp and do alot off testing during that period(free stat reset)and found that geo monk(spec claw) is actually really strong. 600-700k sb iirc on 3i,sell buff with red candy and mokkaparat+asura full charge(tho i dont dont have ss on this T_T). But then u rarely see one as geo (especially str heavy).geo deplete their mp so fast and survival arent that great at solo(unless u have a max sr on both body&additional). Still a party dependent compare to auto build owo/ i still stick to hybrid build. it won't solve your mp problem but look into getting a purity claw. That's an awesome spec nail turns you into a tank. Has def up by str, gives a big boost |
|
