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Post by haine on Aug 3, 2019 13:51:25 GMT
Hi bro, a query, between dark book and necro wand which one do you think is better for dmg?, i have the 2s item and I don't know which one to put it to nwn
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 3, 2019 16:14:29 GMT
Hi bro, a query, between dark book and necro wand which one do you think is better for dmg?, i have the 2s item and I don't know which one to put it to nwn Dark Book Vol. 4 has highest damage. But I think Kiyoshi Shinyo will be even better, because it has almost the same stats being a Throwing weapon.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 21, 2019 6:51:44 GMT
Shikigami Yorishiro has been released finally ^_^ I havent testesd it yet, but when I get 3 Kitsunebis I'll try it.
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Post by Undyne on Aug 21, 2019 9:23:19 GMT
Shikigami Yorishiro has been released finally ^_^ I havent testesd it yet, but when I get 3 Kitsunebis I'll try it. if it's cheaper, I have a ton in my stall for dirt cheap lol... 30m-40m I actually like how it looks a lot, could've been much worse than we got lol...
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 21, 2019 14:21:54 GMT
Was hoping Shikigami Yorishiro would be as powerful as Dark Book v4. But in my testing Death Cry did 5-10k lower dmg than with D.Book 4. Phantom's spells however did 5-15k more dmg.
Did you guys test it?
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 21, 2019 15:44:39 GMT
Was hoping Shikigami Yorishiro would be as powerful as Dark Book v4. But in my testing Death Cry did 5-10k lower dmg than with D.Book 4. Phantom's spells however did 5-15k more dmg. Did you guys test it? I tested on Ratagnes Dark Book IV+9 Curonne VS Shikigami Yorishiro+9 Clean using Deathcry SLV2 with 5 Sacrifice. I got like 80 more Matk and 650 ish Atk with Shikigamk Yorishiro. Shikigami Yorishiro did around 2k-4k less damage than Dark Book IV, and around the same difference higher than Necro Wand. But take note that it's a Throwing, and it is not Upgraded, so it has high chances of getting a upgrade someday. I like more Shikigami Yorishiro because: 1.-0.5 SD. 2.For me has higher chances of getting a upgrade that could make it even more stronger than DB which already has 3. 3.When I spamm Deathcry sometimes my Wraith attacks, so Shikigami does higher damage in that aspect. 4.Shikigami has no -25% heal reward.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 21, 2019 16:10:29 GMT
Was hoping Shikigami Yorishiro would be as powerful as Dark Book v4. But in my testing Death Cry did 5-10k lower dmg than with D.Book 4. Phantom's spells however did 5-15k more dmg. Did you guys test it? I tested on Ratagnes Dark Book IV+9 Curonne VS Shikigami Yorishiro+9 Clean using Deathcry SLV2 with 5 Sacrifice. I got like 80 more Matk and 650 ish Atk with Shikigamk Yorishiro. Shikigami Yorishiro did around 2k-4k less damage than Dark Book IV, and around the same difference higher than Necro Wand. But take note that it's a Throwing, and it is not Upgraded, so it has high chances of getting a upgrade someday. I like more Shikigami Yorishiro because: 1.-0.5 SD. 2.For me has higher chances of getting a upgrade that could make it even more stronger than DB which already has 3. 3.When I spamm Deathcry sometimes my Wraith attacks, so Shikigami does higher damage in that aspect. 4.Shikigami has no -25% heal reward. Fair enough, I guess. But for me, I think I won't be putting a Sauro II in it and keep using my Dark Book v4 instead. 1. SD is nice, I agree. But necro skills don't really require a lot of -skill delay. 2. Chances of being upgraded are just a guess. There are plenty of craftable gear which have no upgrades, and in JP they have Spell Book v5 and Forbidden Book v5. 3. For death cry spam the sacrificed wraiths are usually the skeleton and the knight, which do low dmg. I feel the difference won't be enough to make up for the lost dmg for the spells. 5. Yes, but does it matter in the first place? If you heal people in your dmg set it's just to revive them anyway.
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Post by Undyne on Aug 21, 2019 19:21:38 GMT
I have yet to test it since it'd be a very unfair comparison unless I get a 2s lol... it's very subjective, depends mostly on how much Dark Magic% you have on other equips, considering how loaded down with Magic% Necro is already.
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Post by Undyne on Aug 21, 2019 20:27:05 GMT
Further thoughts: Stealth nerf to throw assist? I tested an Aster Lv 4 vs Universe II, both +9 clean, and Aster was only 100 Matk behind literally a few days ago. Now the difference between Shikigami and Book vol. 4 is only 100-150 Matk? thats way too small for a 15% buff
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Post by Sensho on Oct 3, 2019 5:47:44 GMT
So I had an idea concerning the autoskill on Eraser and the ability to possibly make a melee god Necro utilizing bone knight, oversoul and Eraser. The gear breakdown is this Eraser Dark Priest Robe FAW Javale bangle Eraser's autoskill is basically a guaranteed proc with 30% Dark Resistance So that coupled with the defensive proc from DPR and the magic attack from Faw gives good damage while healing oneself and the bone knight oversoul giving resilience but all of this is a theory of mine that I have the means of Implicating but I want a second opinion and the Javali bangle is the special for obvious attack interval dropping to increase the "melee god"-ness of this build, any thoughts on this setup?
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Post by Undyne on Oct 3, 2019 7:49:07 GMT
So I had an idea concerning the autoskill on Eraser and the ability to possibly make a melee god Necro utilizing bone knight, oversoul and Eraser. The gear breakdown is this Eraser Dark Priest Robe FAW Javale bangle Eraser's autoskill is basically a guaranteed proc with 30% Dark Resistance So that coupled with the defensive proc from DPR and the magic attack from Faw gives good damage while healing oneself and the bone knight oversoul giving resilience but all of this is a theory of mine that I have the means of Implicating but I want a second opinion and the Javali bangle is the special for obvious attack interval dropping to increase the "melee god"-ness of this build, any thoughts on this setup? It would work, but I'm always hesitant to recommend melee builds. If you want high self sustain, Drain+ Dark Javelin can heal 15k+ in 5 sec. That being said, it looks like it'd work yes. Might want to try and get a 2s Dark helm, it's quite an easy 2s to find, and when the next up comes out it'll give a large increase to Dark magic and Dark R. I really wouldn't use Faw, the Autoskill is lower damage, and Magic autos in general don't proc very reliably without a large% of Autoskill. If you can get a Darkness Blessing 5 on Add, you probably wouldn't need the DPR and could just run a resist armor or Struggler. I wish you luck o.o/ let me know how it works out.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 15, 2019 20:38:20 GMT
Lich Staff was released with this Production Update
Lich Staff [Canes] ATK: 300 MATK +24% Dark Magic +15% Magic Pierce +10% Spellburst +2% Autoskill (2x Received damage chance by Defense)
Extremely good stats, but that Autoskill sucks. Enchanters could use it pretty well if they put Dajarte on it.
Or we necromancers could wait until Ur xtal is implemented.
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Post by Sahasrara00 on Nov 18, 2019 7:09:45 GMT
I noticed that after getting Death Ray every sacrifice lvl gives -20% mp cost for summoning wraiths, and 100% mp cost at lvl 5, aside from the +2% soul energy charge per sacrifice lvl. is that normal? or is it because i have necromance charge after getting Death ray?
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 18, 2019 7:20:11 GMT
I noticed that after getting Death Ray every sacrifice lvl gives -20% mp cost for summoning wraiths, and 100% mp cost at lvl 5, aside from the +2% soul energy charge per sacrifice lvl. is that normal? or is it because i have necromance charge after getting Death ray? That is for Sacrifice. Every Sacrifice gives you -20% MPC for Summoning, and 2% Soul Energy recharge rate. When you are on a fight, our Soul Energy recharge rate doubles. Necromance does not do anything related to that, Necromance just determines how many times you can use Corpse Burst. It's completely normal ^^
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 18, 2019 21:33:42 GMT
I've tested Lich Staff+9 NS (Bought it for 150m :/) @302 vs Dark Book+9 @296 Curonne. Vs Yardes, using Death Cry, 5 Sacrifice.
The difference of damage was around 3-4k higher with Lich Staff than with Dark Book, but my Survival was drastically lowered with Lich Staff, because its 2x Received Damage by Defense proc 100% of the time (I do not know if putting an Autoskill Xtal can solve this), even Yarde's Eartquake can one shot me even with full HP.
With Bone Knight the damage received per hit goes from 1k (Already Doubled) to 140 per doubled hit. But, many Ep 6 Bossed can do hits of 15-20k even with Bone Knight without Lich Staff, Using it would make practically impossible any strong enemy.
My recomendation: Lich Staff: Only useful for one shoting things, but useless for anything else. If Autoskill Xtals can solve this, then this Rod would be perfect for Enchanter, or for Necromancers too is we get Ur Xtal. *Lich Staff looks exactly like Uber Rod.
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