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Post by Undyne on Nov 1, 2020 20:50:52 GMT
With this new add (eldercast) what should be the optimal set for necromancer? Necromancer still does higher damage from its own skills than with Wraith damage, but, if you really do want to maximize Phantom dmg, you'd want Int Dex Str remainder to Vit.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 1, 2020 20:50:56 GMT
With this new add (eldercast) what should be the optimal set for necromancer? If we talk about a perfect set and all is 2s, for me would be Dark Book IV x2 Sauro II (Or maybe Lich Staff Sauro II and Ur), Struggler LU x2 Fred, FAW x2 Mujie, Circle of Life x2 Agira Jarma. But if you have social life you could use Crescent Moon x2 Sauro II, Struggler LU Fred, Dark Helm Up x2 Mujie and SBS x2 Agira Jarma. Eldercast only is useful for summoning Phantom, aside that you could use better stuff like Taenia Beret Up.
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Post by Undyne on Nov 1, 2020 21:32:56 GMT
I've also been looking into gear Combinations, and, with 45% Dark Magic on Als, Universe>Dark Book. I went and got myself a Forbidden Book Vol 4 2s for the future upgrade, and using
F Book 4- Sauro II×2 Struggler- Fred+Drag O Druj Plume- Mujie×2 And Skr- Agira This has given me slightly lower than, or equal damage to my previous set. I have tested Universe Vs Dark Book, and Universe does indeed win. Only reason Forbidden Book is slightly lower atm is its lacking the final upgrade, which im fine waiting for. The dmg is almost exactly the same in my case, and my previous set was:
Dark Book Vol 4- Sauro II×2 Struggler- Drag O+Fred Druj Plume- Mujie×2 Hero Mage Catalyst Agira.
Ideally it seems you only want about 10-15% Magic from gear if possible, there's just... so much from Als now. Kata+Pauk+Shadow combined is +45%.
Tl;dr: Necro is slowly becoming more Matk focused on Equipment, Magic focused on Als.
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Post by D★ on Nov 2, 2020 14:09:14 GMT
Do you have relic crystas in your char? Seems like Magic +1% relic is better than Dark magic+1% relic, also have you tested ▲Lian? Isn't bad for Necro (Skill spam based build)
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Post by Undyne on Nov 2, 2020 20:17:18 GMT
Do you have relic crystas in your char? Seems like Magic +1% relic is better than Dark magic+1% relic, also have you tested ▲Lian? Isn't bad for Necro (Skill spam based build) Magic+1%>Dark Magic+1% for relics. And Lian is good, there's just a ton of options for Als.
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Post by bikini on Jan 26, 2021 6:58:38 GMT
What rod and xtal is now good for necro? i have darkbook "spellbook 5 X2 SII" hit abit less dan darkbook4 (enhancer3 xtal)
also stats
i have 415 INT capped in my apostolia 260 VIT 417 DEX capped in my apostolia
full GB stats
i have some spare points, i use for vit o start with eva?
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Post by Undyne on Jan 26, 2021 17:11:23 GMT
What rod and xtal is now good for necro? i have darkbook "spellbook 5 X2 SII" hit abit less dan darkbook4 (enhancer3 xtal) also stats i have 415 INT capped in my apostolia 260 VIT 417 DEX capped in my apostolia full GB stats i have some spare points, i use for vit o start with eva? currently best rods are considered Matk focused, so Universe, Fruru Revel, Crescent moon, etc. If you're going for Int Dex BL/Gl already, I'd say just keep adding to Vit. You won't get enough Agi from here on to make it worthwhile.
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Feb 4, 2021 4:10:45 GMT
What rod and xtal is now good for necro? i have darkbook "spellbook 5 X2 SII" hit abit less dan darkbook4 (enhancer3 xtal) also stats i have 415 INT capped in my apostolia 260 VIT 417 DEX capped in my apostolia full GB stats i have some spare points, i use for vit o start with eva? currently best rods are considered Matk focused, so Universe, Fruru Revel, Crescent moon, etc. If you're going for Int Dex BL/Gl already, I'd say just keep adding to Vit. You won't get enough Agi from here on to make it worthwhile. i didn't wanna pollute the other thread with necro stuff and i happened to see you posted this here too. (thanks btw!) may i know why matk focused rods are better than dark magic ones? o.o
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Post by Undyne on Feb 4, 2021 5:45:16 GMT
currently best rods are considered Matk focused, so Universe, Fruru Revel, Crescent moon, etc. If you're going for Int Dex BL/Gl already, I'd say just keep adding to Vit. You won't get enough Agi from here on to make it worthwhile. i didn't wanna pollute the other thread with necro stuff and i happened to see you posted this here too. (thanks btw!) may i know why matk focused rods are better than dark magic ones? o.o Necro with Dark magic focused Als, and Phantom Oversoul has an absurd amount of Dark Magic%. 10% Catafnia, 15% Shadow/Pauk. Additional 50% from Oversoul (Phantom), totaling 90%. At that point, you start getting seriously diminishing returns from Dark magic compared to Matk. I'd only recommend 10-15% Dark magic on gear at this point, otherwise it's a bit of overkill.
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Post by bikini on Feb 4, 2021 12:48:08 GMT
but expensive alls, not everyone can afford that al .
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Post by Undyne on Feb 4, 2021 14:57:16 GMT
I choose to load up on Dark magic in Als as there frankly isn't a better option otherwise. Best you've got is Medona, which is also excessively expensive.
When talking about min-maxing dmg, like which rods do more dmg than eachother, I assume a full Al page is possible. If you're forced to use Matk Als, then yes Licht staff may slightly win. But ultimately, you do get more dmg using Universe for example with 40% Dark magic on Als.
Almarma or however it's spelled is a great add, it just doesn't really fit how I play necro xD would recommend Tritail more personally, but they both work well, with Almarma doing slightly more dmg.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Feb 4, 2021 16:51:20 GMT
I choose to load up on Dark magic in Als as there frankly isn't a better option otherwise. Best you've got is Medona, which is also excessively expensive. When talking about min-maxing dmg, like which rods do more dmg than eachother, I assume a full Al page is possible. If you're forced to use Matk Als, then yes Licht staff may slightly win. But ultimately, you do get more dmg using Universe for example with 40% Dark magic on Als. Almarma or however it's spelled is a great add, it just doesn't really fit how I play necro xD would recommend Tritail more personally, but they both work well, with Almarma doing slightly more dmg. I guess everybody's setup depends on their playstyle. Personally I'd preffer Taenia LU over Almalma. I'd get more damage, but I won't sacrifice like 24 Melee Resist from Taenia LU, it's SD and MP Cost. Mostly 'cause I solo a lot. But if you pick glass canon gear and tend to pt a lot, it's completely fine.
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Post by Undyne on Feb 4, 2021 20:04:26 GMT
I choose to load up on Dark magic in Als as there frankly isn't a better option otherwise. Best you've got is Medona, which is also excessively expensive. When talking about min-maxing dmg, like which rods do more dmg than eachother, I assume a full Al page is possible. If you're forced to use Matk Als, then yes Licht staff may slightly win. But ultimately, you do get more dmg using Universe for example with 40% Dark magic on Als. Almarma or however it's spelled is a great add, it just doesn't really fit how I play necro xD would recommend Tritail more personally, but they both work well, with Almarma doing slightly more dmg. I guess everybody's setup depends on their playstyle. Personally I'd preffer Taenia LU over Almalma. I'd get more damage, but I won't sacrifice like 24 Melee Resist from Taenia LU, it's SD and MP Cost. Mostly 'cause I solo a lot. But if you pick glass canon gear and tend to pt a lot, it's completely fine. If you're up for Super refining, Tritail is great. Current last up has 10% Magic Resist, gets 14% with the next upgrade, and better offense stats than Taenia. Requires a bit if patience though.
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Post by Undyne on Feb 6, 2021 19:42:28 GMT
So, I performed a little test today. I was curious whether Bone Knight possession gave elemental resistance or All Dmg Cut, but I had no idea how to test. Then I remembered Eraser.
Eraser requires a minimum of 20% Dark resistance to heal you by a% of the dmg dealt. Using full strength BK possession, it did not heal.
This was the only way I could possibly think to test this, I plan to test this on a Paladin to see if Elemental resist from skills even affects Eraser. But as of now, I can pretty confidently say it's Dmg Cut%.
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Post by Undyne on Feb 6, 2021 20:10:10 GMT
So, I performed a little test today. I was curious whether Bone Knight possession gave elemental resistance or All Dmg Cut, but I had no idea how to test. Then I remembered Eraser. Eraser requires a minimum of 20% Dark resistance to heal you by a% of the dmg dealt. Using full strength BK possession, it did not heal. This was the only way I could possibly think to test this, I plan to test this on a Paladin to see if Elemental resist from skills even affects Eraser. But as of now, I can pretty confidently say it's Dmg Cut%. Upon further testing, I can confirm element resistance from Skills DOES affect the auto. Pally friend tested it for me. This means Oversoul (BK) likely does not give elemental resistance.
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