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Post by arslan on Jul 10, 2018 4:51:34 GMT
What would happen to us monk who are using wyn ...... are we being forced to use veleno? cause with the rebalance crt would be nerfed right?
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Post by pingrek on Jul 10, 2018 5:11:40 GMT
What would happen to us monk who are using wyn ...... are we being forced to use veleno? cause with the rebalance crt would be nerfed right? It can still be used for the extra autoskill, it's just the crt dmg% won't be as useful but players won't be forced to use veleno if they don't want to, it's just that veleno is and will be superior in terms of potential total damage output
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Post by arslan on Jul 10, 2018 5:22:03 GMT
What would happen to us monk who are using wyn ...... are we being forced to use veleno? cause with the rebalance crt would be nerfed right? It can still be used for the extra autoskill, it's just the crt dmg% won't be as useful but players won't be forced to use veleno if they don't want to, it's just that veleno is and will be superior in terms of potential total damage output but it would lower my damge (not auto dmg) right? so it means lower dps?
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Post by Pixie on Jul 10, 2018 5:29:44 GMT
I guess you would need to change any gears to use maximum atk% to balance wyn for not having any atk% stat. Otherwise you would lose lots dps but it has already kinda been that way if you use all crt dmg then atk would be lower its just reversed so now u need more atk than crt dmg.
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Post by arslan on Jul 10, 2018 5:40:08 GMT
if that's the case then what add can I use in place of daignjo?
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Post by arslan on Jul 10, 2018 6:12:04 GMT
so I looked for add equip and this is what I found.. Barbarotita last up gives nice atk+% with -sd
oni hachigane last up is also good cause it gives autoskill+% although I don't know if this is out yet
last one is red bunny hood.. this is the stats per iruna-online.info
Description: DEF: 10-16 ATK: 20 Rate cut +5% INT in ATK increase attack, HP is reduced as the offensive power increase in the probability Complete: Rate cut +5% [X = INT] [X = X / 64] [ATK up by X] Autoskill Notes: Maximum ATK + 20% in the ATK increase = INT × 1/6? Attack power increase = HP1?
I don't quite understand the stats.. so can anyone explain it to me? I'm bad with all these formulass...
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 10, 2018 9:51:01 GMT
If you don't care about the negative magic resistance, you could replace all your Wyn with Dajarte. And I think Daiginjo should still be the best for DPS: that autoskill+% really helps (and crt dmg+22% should still pack some punch, even if not as much as before).
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Post by Pixie on Jul 10, 2018 13:14:54 GMT
so I looked for add equip and this is what I found.. Barbarotita last up gives nice atk+% with -sd oni hachigane last up is also good cause it gives autoskill+% although I don't know if this is out yet last one is red bunny hood.. this is the stats per iruna-online.info Description: DEF: 10-16 ATK: 20 Rate cut +5% INT in ATK increase attack, HP is reduced as the offensive power increase in the probability Complete: Rate cut +5% [X = INT] [X = X / 64] [ATK up by X] Autoskill Notes: Maximum ATK + 20% in the ATK increase = INT × 1/6? Attack power increase = HP1? I don't quite understand the stats.. so can anyone explain it to me? I'm bad with all these formulass... So red bunny hood is like a buff that works when your hp is low im guessing. I think barb is a good choice maybe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 13:36:30 GMT
Crt damage will not be as useless as y'all think. In the test server, monty up < f.helm re up (on a ninja tho). Unfortunately, I didn't get to play around with monk as much as I'd hoped to.
Anyway, yes, crt damage is getting nerfed, so lower dps whether you're using veleno or wyn. Tho monk is getting buffed, so higher dps overall.
No, wyn will not die. Veleno has always surpassed wyn in the higher levels anyway, yet people still buy it. It shouldn't change even with the balance patch.
Dai will still give you the highest overall dps due to its autoskill+%. Next best thing you could go for imo is f.helm re up. Although you lose autoskill+%, its raw power is comparable to dai and it comes with nice resistance. There are some interesting add gears to come in the future which are worth looking into, in case you're not satisfied with my suggestion.
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Post by arslan on Jul 10, 2018 13:43:06 GMT
Crt damage will not be as useless as y'all think. In the test server, monty up < f.helm re up (on a ninja tho). Unfortunately, I didn't get to play around with monk as much as I'd hoped to. Anyway, yes, crt damage is getting nerfed, so lower dps whether you're using veleno or wyn. Tho monk is getting buffed, so higher dps overall. No, wyn will not die. Veleno has always surpassed wyn in the higher levels anyway, yet people still buy it. It shouldn't change even with the balance patch. Dai will still give you the highest overall dps due to its autoskill+%. Next best thing you could go for imo is f.helm re up. Although you lose autoskill+%, its raw power is comparable to dai and it comes with nice resistance. There are some interesting add gears to come in the future which are worth looking into, in case you're not satisfied with my suggestion. Well I'll try my dmg with daiginjo first before I made a decision.. and if its not that useless as you said then I will stick with it then wait for the add gears youre talking about... anyways thankss zura, pix, pingrek and night
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 10, 2018 16:33:07 GMT
Crt damage will not be as useless as y'all think. In the test server, monty up < f.helm re up (on a ninja tho). Unfortunately, I didn't get to play around with monk as much as I'd hoped to. Anyway, yes, crt damage is getting nerfed, so lower dps whether you're using veleno or wyn. Tho monk is getting buffed, so higher dps overall. No, wyn will not die. Veleno has always surpassed wyn in the higher levels anyway, yet people still buy it. It shouldn't change even with the balance patch. Dai will still give you the highest overall dps due to its autoskill+%. Next best thing you could go for imo is f.helm re up. Although you lose autoskill+%, its raw power is comparable to dai and it comes with nice resistance. There are some interesting add gears to come in the future which are worth looking into, in case you're not satisfied with my suggestion. did you test it with high dex? Cuz when i tested it i got higher dmg then With a crt% add
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jul 10, 2018 16:35:43 GMT
Wyn is not useless if you keep a balance between Atk and Crt Stats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 16:41:38 GMT
Crt damage will not be as useless as y'all think. In the test server, monty up < f.helm re up (on a ninja tho). Unfortunately, I didn't get to play around with monk as much as I'd hoped to. Anyway, yes, crt damage is getting nerfed, so lower dps whether you're using veleno or wyn. Tho monk is getting buffed, so higher dps overall. No, wyn will not die. Veleno has always surpassed wyn in the higher levels anyway, yet people still buy it. It shouldn't change even with the balance patch. Dai will still give you the highest overall dps due to its autoskill+%. Next best thing you could go for imo is f.helm re up. Although you lose autoskill+%, its raw power is comparable to dai and it comes with nice resistance. There are some interesting add gears to come in the future which are worth looking into, in case you're not satisfied with my suggestion. did you test it with high dex? Cuz when i tested it i got higher dmg then With a crt% add The build I used in the test server is str crt dex rest to gr/rd. I eventually cast off dex and put vit instead.
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Post by Yaozou★ on Jul 12, 2018 5:09:26 GMT
i have 3x Wyn and a Dai up and after the patch my full buffed damage per hit increased by 2k, not much but still an increase
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Post by bikini on Jul 12, 2018 17:25:27 GMT
i have 3x Wyn and a Dai up and after the patch my full buffed damage per hit increased by 2k, not much but still an increase but wyn auto skill drecease alot.
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