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Post by wonderer on Jul 10, 2018 15:53:02 GMT
(pre patch) how do you find it? I assume lacking in agi means doc spam so skill delay gear? So you spam doc and bunshin when needed ye? Special claw build here, although I don't plan to add dex cuz in the test server, monty up < force helm re up. The damage is insanely good. You wouldn't find any other class spamming 100k damage (vs nommars) every second below level 190 with a spam set. My highest damage so far with self buffs is 166k vs wizaleon @ lv193. Yes, my set gives me -6.3 sd (7-clone spam), so it's lacking damage due to its focus. Eva also sucks (100gr and 4 green lines got me to 500~ish eva). The way I play is make 9 clones, paralyze the opponent with a cast set, then spam 6-7 clone doc until paralysis wears off, although it depends on the opponent's aspd whether or not I use raiton. The strongest boss I've ever killed this way is bernhardt. Spikeleon is almost doable, but I always time up at around 25-30% hp left. How about force helm III vs Ogre shield? Due to critical damage nerf I seriously doubt force helm III is any good. Lol I saw many players selling Force helm III raton. And monty beret up can beat orge shield by like 10k damage for pure dex build only. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 16:37:46 GMT
Special claw build here, although I don't plan to add dex cuz in the test server, monty up < force helm re up. The damage is insanely good. You wouldn't find any other class spamming 100k damage (vs nommars) every second below level 190 with a spam set. My highest damage so far with self buffs is 166k vs wizaleon @ lv193. Yes, my set gives me -6.3 sd (7-clone spam), so it's lacking damage due to its focus. Eva also sucks (100gr and 4 green lines got me to 500~ish eva). The way I play is make 9 clones, paralyze the opponent with a cast set, then spam 6-7 clone doc until paralysis wears off, although it depends on the opponent's aspd whether or not I use raiton. The strongest boss I've ever killed this way is bernhardt. Spikeleon is almost doable, but I always time up at around 25-30% hp left. How about force helm III vs Ogre shield? Due to critical damage nerf I seriously doubt force helm III is any good. Lol I saw many players selling Force helm III raton. And monty beret up can beat orge shield by like 10k damage for pure dex build only. That would depend on your other damage sources. Theoretically, if you were to cast away everything else and equip only ogre shield, monty up or fhelm re up with a 0 atk spec claw with the same assumptions I listed on the 2nd page of this thread, monty up takes the win, followed by ogre then fhelm re up. The set I made gave me the highest damage (552k) out of all the available sources in the test server. Someone else might have produced a different outcome, but here's what I used: Mirror crow (?) 2 bancho muscle Boo up 2 aldi F.Helm re up 2 raton Cgb 2 mr oritius No abi 6 yellow, 2 green Sauro ii Sauro iii King tsuchinoko Ouvel Gk Idk how relic xtals work so none of those The al xtals could use some work to switch to full damage, but I chose to stay with al xtals without negatives. Also, the weapon name is google translated as mirror crow. It's the spec claw I was talking about. If my memory is right, its stats are atk 270 (min), atk+14%, crt up, spell burst +3% (why tho). It gave me more damage than mephisto in any combination of gears and xtals I thought of. I believe it's from prod, but I have no basis for this claim. I would've liked to test ira vs boo, but I couldn't get a 2s ira. Also, it did not occur to me to test 1s ira vs 1s boo. Nub mistake on my part. 2s ultimi vs 2s boo tho, boo gave me more damage. |
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Post by wonderer on Jul 10, 2018 16:42:16 GMT
How about force helm III vs Ogre shield? Due to critical damage nerf I seriously doubt force helm III is any good. Lol I saw many players selling Force helm III raton. And monty beret up can beat orge shield by like 10k damage for pure dex build only. That would depend on your other damage sources. Theoretically, if you were to cast away everything else and equip only ogre shield, monty up or fhelm re up with a 0 atk spec claw with the same assumptions I listed on the 2nd page of this thread, monty up takes the win, followed by ogre then fhelm re up. The set I made gave me the highest damage (552k) out of all the available sources in the test server. Someone else might have produced a different outcome, but here's what I used: Mirror crow (?) 2 bancho muscle Boo up 2 aldi F.Helm re up 2 raton Cgb 2 mr oritius No abi 6 yellow, 2 green Sauro ii Sauro iii King tsuchinoko Ouvel Gk Idk how relic xtals work so none of those The al xtals could use some work to switch to full damage, but I chose to stay with al xtals without negatives. Also, the weapon name is google translated as mirror crow. It's the spec claw I was talking about. If my memory is right, its stats are atk 270 (min), atk+14%, crt up, spell burst +3% (why tho). It gave me more damage than mephisto in any combination of gears and xtals I thought of. I believe it's from prod, but I have no basis for this claim. I would've liked to test ira vs boo, but I couldn't get a 2s ira. Also, it did not occur to me to test 1s ira vs 1s boo. Nub mistake on my part. 2s ultimi vs 2s boo tho, boo gave me more damage. Maybe that special claw has some kind of hidden atk up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 16:44:11 GMT
That would depend on your other damage sources. Theoretically, if you were to cast away everything else and equip only ogre shield, monty up or fhelm re up with a 0 atk spec claw with the same assumptions I listed on the 2nd page of this thread, monty up takes the win, followed by ogre then fhelm re up. The set I made gave me the highest damage (552k) out of all the available sources in the test server. Someone else might have produced a different outcome, but here's what I used: Mirror crow (?) 2 bancho muscle Boo up 2 aldi F.Helm re up 2 raton Cgb 2 mr oritius No abi 6 yellow, 2 green Sauro ii Sauro iii King tsuchinoko Ouvel Gk Idk how relic xtals work so none of those The al xtals could use some work to switch to full damage, but I chose to stay with al xtals without negatives. Also, the weapon name is google translated as mirror crow. It's the spec claw I was talking about. If my memory is right, its stats are atk 270 (min), atk+14%, crt up, spell burst +3% (why tho). It gave me more damage than mephisto in any combination of gears and xtals I thought of. I believe it's from prod, but I have no basis for this claim. I would've liked to test ira vs boo, but I couldn't get a 2s ira. Also, it did not occur to me to test 1s ira vs 1s boo. Nub mistake on my part. 2s ultimi vs 2s boo tho, boo gave me more damage. Maybe that special claw has some kind of hidden atk up. Maybe hidden elemental damage up instead cuz I had lower atk with mirror crow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 16:50:31 GMT
Found an old screenshot. Here's the claw. Seems its full google translated name is mirror crow special.  |
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 10, 2018 17:00:43 GMT
@zura its name is "mirror claw", then some kanji which I can't understand
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:07:51 GMT
@zura its name is "mirror claw", then some kanji which I can't understand Not saying I fully trust google translate, but it's all I have since I can't actually read jp. The reason I call it mirror crow and not claw is cuz the jp for claw is that character that resembles the letter "M" that shows up below the name (says special claw) and in the description of the item (also says special claw). The kanji you couldn't translate, google says it means "special" which I believe due to its consistency in the two instances I found "claw" above. Kijimu Party would it be possible for you to find this item and add it to your database anytime soon?  |
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 10, 2018 17:19:40 GMT
@zura クロー means claw. Maybe that M kanji means nail or something.
I found this "mirror claw special" on jp wiki, it's from smithing lv213. I couldn't find the stats though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:32:23 GMT
@zura クロー means claw. Maybe that M kanji means nail or something. I found this "mirror claw special" on jp wiki, it's from smithing lv213. I couldn't find the stats though. It looks like the other mirror weapons will also have a similar 'special' version |
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Post by Kyndig on Jul 10, 2018 20:33:21 GMT
Here are the armors and phrase sets i have on ninja.
Damage set hp 5320 or so mp 6604
Kodachi 4+9 sauro2 agility5, ira+9 wyn, f helm reup+9 raton tech 5, acc sunglasses meleedef 5, ring of rush ns.
Evasion set hp 4877 mp 6604
Weapon same, armor same, g ring up raton, volk shoes beelzenoid. If i change weapon to d claw 2+9 mp goes to 5625 .
Low hp cloning -90% hp set hp 1331, mp 5870
Schwartz+7, ayagaisa+7ganei
Hi hp set cloning part 2 hp 19893 mp4892.
D claw 2+9 , iron armor+7 final up max hp+700, knight of honor+7, fish scale earring.
If change to koda and aerugo green mask+7 hp goes to 13696, mp 5870
If i need anything xtal wise i’d probably change some of the sets to either sauro 2, gashaboro, or change my special to catura atm and get a crescent for more hp and stuff. Though they may bankrupt me lol
Oh and i havent gotten ouvel g yet so factor that hp loss into the equation once i get it.
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Post by wonderer on Jul 10, 2018 20:51:38 GMT
I'm using SBS with 2 Mr. Oritius xtals. Lol
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Post by wonderer on Jul 10, 2018 21:11:00 GMT
How about force helm III vs Ogre shield? Due to critical damage nerf I seriously doubt force helm III is any good. Lol I saw many players selling Force helm III raton. And monty beret up can beat orge shield by like 10k damage for pure dex build only. That would depend on your other damage sources. Theoretically, if you were to cast away everything else and equip only ogre shield, monty up or fhelm re up with a 0 atk spec claw with the same assumptions I listed on the 2nd page of this thread, monty up takes the win, followed by ogre then fhelm re up. The set I made gave me the highest damage (552k) out of all the available sources in the test server. Someone else might have produced a different outcome, but here's what I used: Mirror crow (?) 2 bancho muscle Boo up 2 aldi F.Helm re up 2 raton Cgb 2 mr oritius No abi 6 yellow, 2 green Sauro ii Sauro iii King tsuchinoko Ouvel Gk Idk how relic xtals work so none of those The al xtals could use some work to switch to full damage, but I chose to stay with al xtals without negatives. Also, the weapon name is google translated as mirror crow. It's the spec claw I was talking about. If my memory is right, its stats are atk 270 (min), atk+14%, crt up, spell burst +3% (why tho). It gave me more damage than mephisto in any combination of gears and xtals I thought of. I believe it's from prod, but I have no basis for this claim. I would've liked to test ira vs boo, but I couldn't get a 2s ira. Also, it did not occur to me to test 1s ira vs 1s boo. Nub mistake on my part. 2s ultimi vs 2s boo tho, boo gave me more damage. Did you test ring of rush too? For non dex builds it would out damage disaster stone. How about ROR vs CGB? ROR gives atk+300 atk+3% CGB would give same atk as lvl if stats difference between str and dex exceeds char lvl. So at lvl 370 with str 400 and dex 1, it would give 370 atk. Is extra 70 atk good enough against atk+3%? |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 10, 2018 21:19:15 GMT
That would depend on your other damage sources. Theoretically, if you were to cast away everything else and equip only ogre shield, monty up or fhelm re up with a 0 atk spec claw with the same assumptions I listed on the 2nd page of this thread, monty up takes the win, followed by ogre then fhelm re up. The set I made gave me the highest damage (552k) out of all the available sources in the test server. Someone else might have produced a different outcome, but here's what I used: Mirror crow (?) 2 bancho muscle Boo up 2 aldi F.Helm re up 2 raton Cgb 2 mr oritius No abi 6 yellow, 2 green Sauro ii Sauro iii King tsuchinoko Ouvel Gk Idk how relic xtals work so none of those The al xtals could use some work to switch to full damage, but I chose to stay with al xtals without negatives. Also, the weapon name is google translated as mirror crow. It's the spec claw I was talking about. If my memory is right, its stats are atk 270 (min), atk+14%, crt up, spell burst +3% (why tho). It gave me more damage than mephisto in any combination of gears and xtals I thought of. I believe it's from prod, but I have no basis for this claim. I would've liked to test ira vs boo, but I couldn't get a 2s ira. Also, it did not occur to me to test 1s ira vs 1s boo. Nub mistake on my part. 2s ultimi vs 2s boo tho, boo gave me more damage. Did you test ring of rush too? For non dex builds it would out damage disaster stone. How about ROR vs CGB? ROR gives atk+300 atk+3% CGB would give same atk as lvl if stats difference between str and dex exceeds char lvl. So at lvl 370 with str 400 and dex 1, it would give 370 atk. Is extra 70 atk good enough against atk+3%? wild ring would out beat them |
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Post by wonderer on Jul 10, 2018 21:21:13 GMT
Did you test ring of rush too? For non dex builds it would out damage disaster stone. How about ROR vs CGB? ROR gives atk+300 atk+3% CGB would give same atk as lvl if stats difference between str and dex exceeds char lvl. So at lvl 370 with str 400 and dex 1, it would give 370 atk. Is extra 70 atk good enough against atk+3%? wild ring would out beat them Wild ring is only good against low defense mobs or bosses. Raw atk from those specs do higher damage than wild ring against high defense mobs or bosses. |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 10, 2018 21:22:38 GMT
wild ring would out beat them Wild ring is only good against low defense mobs or bosses. Raw atk from those specs do higher damage than wild ring against high defense mobs or bosses. thats not what i found to be true as a jap player myself |
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