ijus
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Post by ijus on Jul 11, 2018 3:26:03 GMT
The thing about da is when its proc,other additional damage wont proc except for sb. If recall correctly,da lvl 1 is 120% of your normal attack. But if u depend highly on additional dmg(triple attack,wyn), da might be a nuisance. Im a triple attack user(edg,nasturtium)and here its look like and im loving it d(*_*
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 3:47:54 GMT
The thing about da is when its proc,other additional damage wont proc except for sb. If recall correctly,da lvl 1 is 120% of your normal attack. But if u depend highly on additional dmg(triple attack,wyn), da might be a nuisance. Im a triple attack user(edg,nasturtium)and here its look like and im loving it d(*_* I thought 10-13k or something like that is the cap dmg for physical autoskill? this is amazing xd
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Post by ijus on Jul 11, 2018 4:02:46 GMT
There is a cap indeed. Thats why the 80k sb produce 60k additional damage instead. The known xtal which has no cap damage is veleno when poisoned.
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 4:06:06 GMT
There is a cap indeed. Thats why the 80k sb produce 60k additional damage instead. The known xtal which has no cap damage is veleno when poisoned. but you're doin 30k+ dmg even without sb. is that the cap dmg for edg and nasturtium auto?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 4:32:20 GMT
There is a cap indeed. Thats why the 80k sb produce 60k additional damage instead. The known xtal which has no cap damage is veleno when poisoned. but you're doin 30k+ dmg even without sb. is that the cap dmg for edg and nasturtium auto? The cap is actually 10k. More than that, and the damage gets reduced by 75%.
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 4:38:33 GMT
but you're doin 30k+ dmg even without sb. is that the cap dmg for edg and nasturtium auto? The cap is actually 10k. More than that, and the damage gets reduced by 75%. I still don't quite understand. then how is he doing 30k auto? also guys on youtube is also dealing 30k+ auto with edg. sorry if I'm being annoying lmao
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Post by ijus on Jul 11, 2018 4:41:39 GMT
According to jp wiki math a soft cap of additional damage is cap 10k. Excess damage than divided by 4 and added.
Strong auto means strong normal attack and strong additional damage type.(in this case a triple damage additional damage. Some additional damage like wol only does additional damage type,maybe twice of your normal damage?)
how triple damage calculated is still to be confirmed,however its one of the strongest additional damage i encounter(excluding veleno)
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 4:48:20 GMT
ohhh ok now I understand it a bit. Thanks guys
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 4:48:45 GMT
The cap is actually 10k. More than that, and the damage gets reduced by 75%. I still don't quite understand. then how is he doing 30k auto? also guys on youtube is also dealing 30k+ auto with edg. sorry if I'm being annoying lmao Np I still don't understand it so much, but here's how I think it works. Triple damage chance means that you have a chance to do triple damage in one attack, so if you do 2k crt damage, you'll get 4k more, totalling 6k. 6k is triple your 2k so yeah xD. The damage cap is 10k. It's not a fixed cap, but a soft cap. If your auto does more than 10k, this happens: Crt damage = 45k Auto damage = 90k Real auto damage = [(90k - 10k) ÷ 4] + 10k = [80k ÷ 4] + 10k = 20k + 10k = 30k This makes sense? I forgot where I found the formula, but it should be somewhere buried in the jp wiki
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 4:51:41 GMT
I still don't quite understand. then how is he doing 30k auto? also guys on youtube is also dealing 30k+ auto with edg. sorry if I'm being annoying lmao Np I still don't understand it so much, but here's how I think it works. Triple damage chance means that you have a chance to do triple damage in one attack, so if you do 2k crt damage, you'll get 4k more, totalling 6k. 6k is triple your 2k so yeah xD. The damage cap is 10k. It's not a fixed cap, but a soft cap. If your auto does more than 10k, this happens: Crt damage = 45k Auto damage = 90k Real auto damage = [(90k - 10k) ÷ 4] + 10k = [80k ÷ 4] + 10k = 20k + 10k = 30k This makes sense? I forgot where I found the formula, but it should be somewhere buried in the jp wiki yeah I somehow understand it. I'm just not that good when it comes to dmg formulas. I appreciate the effort for enlightening me with knowledge XD
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ijus
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Post by ijus on Jul 11, 2018 4:53:22 GMT
Say i dealt 46k normal attack.
Triple damage said i shoukd be able to deal 46kx3 as additional damage. But with the soft cap my damage should be:
[(46kx3)-10k]4+10k [128k]4+10k [32k]+10k 42K
However that might not be the correct formula for triple damage. Not to mention DEF and factor that not included in this calculation.
Hope its help *_*)/
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Post by ijus on Jul 11, 2018 4:56:21 GMT
Imagine if the cap removed. Pray for it *_*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 4:59:30 GMT
Imagine if the cap removed. Pray for it *_* That would make veleno useless xD so I doubt it, but it would be nice too
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 4:59:35 GMT
Imagine if the cap removed. Pray for it *_* all hail triple dmg
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Post by arslan on Jul 11, 2018 5:18:31 GMT
any thoughts about this set?
edg cerb/grap or anything better Ira bodyguard cordal nasturtium raton 2s mq spec telon/wyn
well? it has balance between atk% and crt dmg% with some auto% I don't know if this will be better than my old set of eq but after learing about triple dmg xD I think I will change to this set. lmao
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