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Post by immortal on Mar 26, 2018 10:10:56 GMT
I know that monks converts their int to make it into physical power but why do they have a side skill based on magic atk? (Lion Roar) so why exclude matk xtals and matk auto?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 11:59:14 GMT
I know that monks converts their int to make it into physical power but why do they have a side skill based on magic atk? (Lion Roar) so why exclude matk xtals and matk auto? Battle roar (formerly lion roar) damage is... Pretty low from what I hear. 3k matk = 3k damage or something (can't confirm as I do not have the skill). Why it is even there is not something I can answer. As for the exclusion of matk xtals and autos, even tho it came from the mage branch, I believe it's cuz most of their skills are physical. No buffs that help with magic skills' damage either. Then again, it is up to the player if they want to go for magic auto build. There are people out there who would love the idea of a unique build. It's not bad imo, but I strongly believe that physical is the way to go. |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Mar 26, 2018 12:39:11 GMT
Battle Roar is a side skill!  Battle Roar is used for targetting Mobs near you. So you can make Geo Breaker an AoE. Just like Bishop's Litcher is a Physical attack, which enhances Nemesis damage. Battle Roar is a Magical attack, which targets Mobs near you, to make Geo Breaker an AoE. Since Geo Breaker targets Mobs which is already targetted. So you use Lion Roar to target mobs and then use Geo Breaker to make it AoE. |
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Post by Zycron on Mar 26, 2018 13:12:14 GMT
Ashan is corsrect battle roar is for pulling multiple mobs nothing else and I have tried a matk autoskill monk and it's like 25% as effective as veleno or other normal autoskill builds just not worth it IMO
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 26, 2018 13:45:57 GMT
Anyone tried pramia for their monk? I wonder how much its damage since in my opinion, pramia magic damage is Agi dependent o.o
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Post by ijus on Mar 26, 2018 14:00:55 GMT
Physical is the way for monks. Pramia auto deals based on matk which monk seriously lack even with 400int x.x
Grail magic damage is based on physical attack. Dajarte magic auto is calculate based on ATK&MATK. Xtal such as sierra torophy also based on ATK&MATK(this seriously not worth it).
If u want to try magic auto monk,go for grail&dajarte combination o.o/
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 26, 2018 14:27:09 GMT
Physical is the way for monks. Pramia auto deals based on matk which monk seriously lack even with 400int x.x Grail magic damage is based on physical attack. Dajarte magic auto is calculate based on ATK&MATK. Xtal such as sierra torophy also based on ATK&MATK(this seriously not worth it). If u want to try magic auto monk,go for grail&dajarte combination o.o/ Actually I just test pramia. With my first build, I had 300 AGI and I can do 60k-70k pramia damage. Then, when I reset my stats to have more blue line boost (which means more matk), my pramia damage drop to 50k-65k. Eventhough my dajarte damage (in my fire set) up from 70k to 100k  |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Mar 26, 2018 14:36:56 GMT
Physical is the way for monks. Pramia auto deals based on matk which monk seriously lack even with 400int x.x Grail magic damage is based on physical attack. Dajarte magic auto is calculate based on ATK&MATK. Xtal such as sierra torophy also based on ATK&MATK(this seriously not worth it). If u want to try magic auto monk,go for grail&dajarte combination o.o/ Actually I just test pramia. With my first build, I had 300 AGI and I can do 60k-70k pramia damage. Then, when I reset my stats to have more blue line boost (which means more matk), my pramia damage drop to 50k-65k. Eventhough my dajarte damage (in my fire set) up from 70k to 100k Is that with your Monk? or another class? Enchanter? |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 26, 2018 14:40:35 GMT
'AhSaN' I use my enchanter. But based on my test before, I think asobimo design pramia to become monk weapon at first, so they add autoskill damage up by AGI for pramia. Moreover, 20k autoskill damage down for enchanter is huge, which means there are any significant factor that reduce pramia damage. I still not sure with my theory, thats why I ask is there are any monk that test this weapon (perferebly chakra build monk).
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Mar 26, 2018 14:46:48 GMT
'AhSaN' I use enchanter. But based on my test before, I think asobimo design pramia to become monk weapon at first, so they add autoskill damage up by AGI for pramia. I still not sure with my theory, thats why I ask is there are any monk that test this weapon (perferebly chakra build monk). I wish we had a skill which could boost MATK (But we have Heal+ instead of MATK tho ) But from my point of view, When a Monk equips a Claw, her MATK goes down. This was a test performed in around October 2016. (Correct me if I am wrong, I canf remember the details of the test o.o/) So, I think it was made for Enchanters. Maybe for enchanters whom wanted to be Claw Magic type. |
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Post by ijus on Mar 26, 2018 14:48:02 GMT
 This is my damage when i was on grail+dajarte(body,add,spec) was taken on febuary 2016. That was when i was at int,agi,crt build over 300. Dont sue me,the magic damage is horrible x.x |
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Post by ijus on Mar 26, 2018 14:51:56 GMT
'AhSaN' I use enchanter. But based on my test before, I think asobimo design pramia to become monk weapon at first, so they add autoskill damage up by AGI for pramia. I still not sure with my theory, thats why I ask is there are any monk that test this weapon (perferebly chakra build monk). I wish we had a skill which could boost MATK (But we have Heal+ instead of MATK tho ) But from my point of view, When a Monk equips a Claw, her MATK goes down. This was a test performed in around October 2016. (Correct me if I am wrong, I canf remember the details of the test o.o/) So, I think it was made for Enchanters. Maybe for enchanters whom wanted to be Claw Magic type. There is a rumor monk class has matk penalty,even normal magic(holy light/dark blast) cleric can almost beats you x.x |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 26, 2018 15:00:25 GMT
ijus I see, magic monk will not viable then x.x
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Post by ijus on Mar 26, 2018 15:08:45 GMT
I once made a 55k+ ice spear grail(it was when ice crush updated)againts nommar(i cant find the screenshot)magic build monk is viable only with grail so far i found on my research o.o/
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Post by immortal on Mar 27, 2018 1:32:32 GMT
Can we request asobimo to put matk boost for monks? Hahaha that would be great if they agreed
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Battle Roar is used for targetting Mobs near you. So you can make Geo Breaker an AoE. Just like Bishop's Litcher is a Physical attack, which enhances Nemesis damage. Battle Roar is a Magical attack, which targets Mobs near you, to make Geo Breaker an AoE. Since Geo Breaker targets Mobs which is already targetted. So you use Lion Roar to target mobs and then use Geo Breaker to make it AoE.
