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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 25, 2018 5:11:41 GMT
I knew there are similiar thread about this topic, but I decided to make new thread rather than reviving old thread: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/12697/dual-blow-enchanterirunaonline.boards.net/thread/25759/enchanter-autoskill-dual-blowTo spam dual blow, you need at least 2-3 sec -skill delay. Best armor for this role is Bellow of Order since it give -1 second skill delay, matk up by int, and resist. Struggler isnt viable here since it has no -skill delay. You will need more 2-3 sec to spam dual blow. So suggested gear setup are: •Al Sauro ii (-0.5 sec) •Bellow of Order (-1 sec, -1.2 sec up ver) •Sage Hat reup (-0.7 sec) •Quick cool abi (-0.6 sec) I dont reccomend more than 2 Qc abi since it hurt your dps. Based on that set, I suggest Weapon with strong autoskill with good proc rate such as Eve Pramia. You can use Sword, Throw, or Wand but I think those kind of weapon is better if you use struggler. Any suggestion? o.o/ |
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Post by eiric on Mar 25, 2018 6:22:57 GMT
I knew there are similiar thread about this topic, but I decided to make new thread rather than reviving old thread: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/12697/dual-blow-enchanterirunaonline.boards.net/thread/25759/enchanter-autoskill-dual-blowTo spam dual blow, you need at least 2-3 sec -skill delay. Best armor for this role is Bellow of Order since it give -1 second skill delay, matk up by int, and resist. Struggler isnt viable here since it has no -skill delay. You will need more 2-3 sec to spam dual blow. So suggested gear setup are: •Al Sauro ii (-0.5 sec) •Bellow of Order (-1 sec, -1.2 sec up ver) •Sage Hat reup (-0.7 sec) •Quick cool abi (-0.6 sec) I dont reccomend more than 2 Qc abi since it hurt your dps. Based on that set, I suggest Weapon with strong autoskill with good proc rate such as Eve Pramia. You can use Sword, Throw, or Wand but I think those kind of weapon is better if you use struggler. Any suggestion? o.o/ Idk sounds good considering you are the expert on ench anyways. |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 25, 2018 6:34:50 GMT
eiric I dont mind with any suggestion x) Main reason why I make this thread because I can fast kill wyn with my fire set, just by spamming dual blow when special status mode on. Furthermore, newest ench adjusment will make special status buff fixed at 15 sec even with -sd gear. Basically, dual blow + special status buff = double dps °^°9 Fastest record with my fire set, I can kill wyn less than 15 sec. But its dps just 30k-40k per auto outside special status and my worst record is 1 minute .-. I will make video soon to compare fire set + dual blow vs Earth set without dual blow when I had time.
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Mar 25, 2018 6:46:57 GMT
eiric I dont mind with any suggestion x) Main reason why I make this thread because I can fast kill wyn with my fire set, just by spamming dual blow when special status mode on. Furthermore, newest ench adjusment will make special status buff fixed at 15 sec even with -sd gear. Basically, dual blow + special status buff = double dps °^°9 Fastest record with my fire set, I can kill wyn less than 15 sec. But its dps just 30k-40k per auto outside special status and my worst record is 1 minute .-. I will make video soon to compare fire set + dual blow vs Earth set without dual blow when I had time. Yeah good luck and have fun with the dual blow set. I don't have any suggestions as I don't have dual blow. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 7:30:05 GMT
I knew there are similiar thread about this topic, but I decided to make new thread rather than reviving old thread: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/12697/dual-blow-enchanterirunaonline.boards.net/thread/25759/enchanter-autoskill-dual-blowTo spam dual blow, you need at least 2-3 sec -skill delay. Best armor for this role is Bellow of Order since it give -1 second skill delay, matk up by int, and resist. Struggler isnt viable here since it has no -skill delay. You will need more 2-3 sec to spam dual blow. So suggested gear setup are: •Al Sauro ii (-0.5 sec) •Bellow of Order (-1 sec, -1.2 sec up ver) •Sage Hat reup (-0.7 sec) •Quick cool abi (-0.6 sec) I dont reccomend more than 2 Qc abi since it hurt your dps. Based on that set, I suggest Weapon with strong autoskill with good proc rate such as Eve Pramia. You can use Sword, Throw, or Wand but I think those kind of weapon is better if you use struggler. Any suggestion? o.o/ Nub here (also, I'm not an auto ench). Just some thoughts. If we're only talking about damage: 1) Claw/bow Boo up Sage re up 2 qc abi Stats: +529 matk (at level 370 max apos int) +8% matk -3.1sec sd 2) Other weapons Strug re up Sage re up 3 qc abi Stats: +700 matk +10% matk +10% spell burst +19% magic pierce -2.5sec sd I'm not really sure exactly how much -sd is needed, but since you said 2-3, set 2 also fits the sd requirement for effective db spamming. Clearly, set 2 has better damage potential than set 1, even if we add another qc abi, the raw matk, spell burst and magic pierce more than make up for that loss. |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 25, 2018 8:21:07 GMT
@zura I also reconsider about autoskill proc rate. I think 2 qc abi is waste for ench potential since you can put 1 lv 5 qc abi and rest abi is autoskill.
Dajarte proc rate is bad outside special status, thats why you still need at least 20%-30% autoskill rate for better dajarte proc rate. Also, main reason why I mention eve pramia because its damage is comparable with etincelle but its proc rate better. I do 70k-80k pramia damage in my fire set, similiar with my dajarte damage at that set.
Ah with set that I mention above, I can spam dual blow, -2.5 sd I think enough to spam dual blow.
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Post by 9ball on Mar 25, 2018 9:21:47 GMT
so if eve pramia's proc rate is better than etincelle, would putting <>ifrit on etincelle work better than its current meteor auto?
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 25, 2018 9:49:48 GMT
so if eve pramia's proc rate is better than etincelle, would putting <>ifrit on etincelle work better than its current meteor auto? Putting ifrit at etincelle is waste. Etincelle auto far stronger than ifrit. Etincelle auto dps is very good during special status buff, so its good weapon if you relies special status buff. Moreover you can use struggler for more matk if you use etincelle for more damage. Eve pramia auto damage is same with etincelle with boo. However, outside special status buff, pramia has better proc rate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 10:12:10 GMT
@zura I also reconsider about autoskill proc rate. I think 2 qc abi is waste for ench potential since you can put 1 lv 5 qc abi and rest abi is autoskill. Dajarte proc rate is bad outside special status, thats why you still need at least 20%-30% autoskill rate for better dajarte proc rate. Also, main reason why I mention eve pramia because its damage is comparable with etincelle but its proc rate better. I do 70k-80k pramia damage in my fire set, similiar with my dajarte damage at that set. Ah with set that I mention above, I can spam dual blow, -2.5 sd I think enough to spam dual blow. I didn't think of that tbh. I thought we weren't considering autoskill rate due to special status. What can you say about Emido then? (Only for damage) |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 25, 2018 10:59:16 GMT
@zura Emido lowers your survival (-25% magic resist is more fatal than -25% melee resist x.x).
Also, main reason why I use dual blow set is because that set will not too much relies on special status buff. Too much relies special status buff is also hurt against hard hitting boss. See my video against ignatz? Hard to maintain special status buff and survive at same time since ignatz can also reduce damage .-.
Edit: If there are any additional gear or weapon with strong autoskill (not dajarte on weapon) that give more than -1 sec delay and give matk & autoskill at same time, maybe I will reconsider using struggler.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 8:46:32 GMT
@zura Emido lowers your survival (-25% magic resist is more fatal than -25% melee resist x.x). Also, main reason why I use dual blow set is because that set will not too much relies on special status buff. Too much relies special status buff is also hurt against hard hitting boss. See my video against ignatz? Hard to maintain special status buff and survive at same time since ignatz can also reduce damage .-. Edit: If there are any additional gear or weapon with strong autoskill (not dajarte on weapon) that give more than -1 sec delay and give matk & autoskill at same time, maybe I will reconsider using struggler. Yeag but I was asking only about the damage (including autoskill+% and all that stuff). Is it something like strug=emido>boo? |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 27, 2018 8:50:17 GMT
@zura for me struggler>boo> emido in term of damage. And even worse for emido if you include survival function  Emido only wins in term of autoskill rate which can be easily solved via special status buff. But for constant dps ourside special status buff, emido is not bad choice as long you dont fight magic bosses. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 8:54:22 GMT
@zura for me struggler>boo> emido in term of damage. And even worse for emido if you include survival function Emido only wins in term of autoskill rate which can be easily solved via special status buff. But for constant dps ourside special status buff, emido is not bad choice as long you dont fight magic bosses. Then for yarde grinding, emido would be great  was just thinking if I should get one or something else since I'm kinda low on funds (as usual). |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 27, 2018 8:55:29 GMT
@zura yea, emido is great for yarde grind xD. I test it many times when I still low level so I can says that  |
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Post by 9ball on Mar 27, 2018 9:54:45 GMT
hmm besides using javali(agira) with dualblow after special status effect ends? could ench also use empedracle with d.mail reup + blue epaulette/ensis + any autoskill+% or magic counter spec then switch back to dmg set after emp interval cut triggers? ik its a bit risky but maybe those with higher vit and stoneskin lv2 can utilize this setup?
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was just thinking if I should get one or something else since I'm kinda low on funds (as usual).