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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 10, 2014 4:40:38 GMT
It's stats are more suited to Snipers than to Enchanters. It does kind of suck though, unless -1.5 sec skill delay is enough for max speed Arrow Rain. It's for INT DEX builds. Its for enchanters. As all magic weapons main class are enchanters. Other classes might make use of it, but its still for enchanter. Although I see what you are saying, it makes more sense to refer to a weapon by what classes make the best use out of it. There will be a Throwing weapon with an autoskill on it in the future at some point, it will probably work better for Enchanter than any other class(who knows if it will actually be good). It doesn't have really many beneficial effects for Ninjas or Assassins who have a mastery for them so people will probably refer to it as an Enchanter weapon and not an Assassin or Ninja weapon. Either both weapons aren't as good as other options available anyways. I even prefer Flabellum over Seele Bow. That may change as I get closer to level cap but bleh Dark is just a crappy element lol. I might try it again in the future though. If only the Dark Blast autoskill could cause fear :/
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 10, 2014 5:19:13 GMT
Its for enchanters. As all magic weapons main class are enchanters. Other classes might make use of it, but its still for enchanter. Although I see what you are saying, it makes more sense to refer to a weapon by what classes make the best use out of it. There will be a Throwing weapon with an autoskill on it in the future at some point, it will probably work better for Enchanter than any other class(who knows if it will actually be good). It doesn't have really many beneficial effects for Ninjas or Assassins who have a mastery for them so people will probably refer to it as an Enchanter weapon and not an Assassin or Ninja weapon. Either both weapons aren't as good as other options available anyways. I even prefer Flabellum over Seele Bow. That may change as I get closer to level cap but bleh Dark is just a crappy element lol. I might try it again in the future though. If only the Dark Blast autoskill could cause fear :/ only jobs i see making use of this are ENCHANTER, first and foremost, monk, and bishop. Second 2 being int/dex/agi builds.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 10, 2014 5:27:18 GMT
Although I see what you are saying, it makes more sense to refer to a weapon by what classes make the best use out of it. There will be a Throwing weapon with an autoskill on it in the future at some point, it will probably work better for Enchanter than any other class(who knows if it will actually be good). It doesn't have really many beneficial effects for Ninjas or Assassins who have a mastery for them so people will probably refer to it as an Enchanter weapon and not an Assassin or Ninja weapon. Either both weapons aren't as good as other options available anyways. I even prefer Flabellum over Seele Bow. That may change as I get closer to level cap but bleh Dark is just a crappy element lol. I might try it again in the future though. If only the Dark Blast autoskill could cause fear :/ only jobs i see making use of this are ENCHANTER, first and foremost, monk, and bishop. Second 2 being int/dex/agi builds. Which weapon are you talking about here? Sorry I mentioned 3 and don't know which one you are referring to haha.
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 10, 2014 7:01:01 GMT
only jobs i see making use of this are ENCHANTER, first and foremost, monk, and bishop. Second 2 being int/dex/agi builds. Which weapon are you talking about here? Sorry I mentioned 3 and don't know which one you are referring to haha. The magic bows.
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Post by tasm on Jun 10, 2014 15:29:42 GMT
Although I see what you are saying, it makes more sense to refer to a weapon by what classes make the best use out of it. There will be a Throwing weapon with an autoskill on it in the future at some point, it will probably work better for Enchanter than any other class(who knows if it will actually be good). It doesn't have really many beneficial effects for Ninjas or Assassins who have a mastery for them so people will probably refer to it as an Enchanter weapon and not an Assassin or Ninja weapon. Either both weapons aren't as good as other options available anyways. I even prefer Flabellum over Seele Bow. That may change as I get closer to level cap but bleh Dark is just a crappy element lol. I might try it again in the future though. If only the Dark Blast autoskill could cause fear :/ only jobs i see making use of this are ENCHANTER, first and foremost, monk, and bishop. Second 2 being int/dex/agi builds. I disagree. Int/Dex is an AR sniper build. There just weren't weapons to employ it until recently.
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 10, 2014 16:54:35 GMT
only jobs i see making use of this are ENCHANTER, first and foremost, monk, and bishop. Second 2 being int/dex/agi builds. I disagree. Int/Dex is an AR sniper build. There just weren't weapons to employ it until recently. But then the autoskill, which is the purpose of the weapon being MAGIC, will be unused. AR spam isnt going to employ the weapons autoskills.
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Post by tasm on Jun 10, 2014 21:12:16 GMT
I disagree. Int/Dex is an AR sniper build. There just weren't weapons to employ it until recently. But then the autoskill, which is the purpose of the weapon being MAGIC, will be unused. AR spam isnt going to employ the weapons autoskills. I'm doubtful that this will be the only variation of magic bow. Some may have autoskill like that one, some may not.
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 10, 2014 21:32:35 GMT
But then the autoskill, which is the purpose of the weapon being MAGIC, will be unused. AR spam isnt going to employ the weapons autoskills. I'm doubtful that this will be the only variation of magic bow. Some may have autoskill like that one, some may not. Let's look back at every magic weapon. Tell me if they didn't have an autoskill. And if they have up, look at latest up, not the first stages.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 11, 2014 1:57:23 GMT
I'm doubtful that this will be the only variation of magic bow. Some may have autoskill like that one, some may not. Let's look back at every magic weapon. Tell me if they didn't have an autoskill. And if they have up, look at latest up, not the first stages. Sorcerie Bow does not have an UP from what I am seeing on JP wiki. It has no autoskill anything on it. It's stats all benefit Sniper a good bit and do almost nothing for Enchanter. It is not an Enchanter weapon at all. It is an option for Snipers who wish to do an INT DEX build. Will this option keep with STR DEX in damage at all? Obviously not because it shouldn't. It will also be completely outclassed later on because of other Bow options, so it really wouldn't be a permanent option. As of right now though it isn't all that bad.
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Post by Mahouko on Jun 11, 2014 19:21:09 GMT
Let's look back at every magic weapon. Tell me if they didn't have an autoskill. And if they have up, look at latest up, not the first stages. Sorcerie Bow does not have an UP from what I am seeing on JP wiki. It has no autoskill anything on it. It's stats all benefit Sniper a good bit and do almost nothing for Enchanter. It is not an Enchanter weapon at all. It is an option for Snipers who wish to do an INT DEX build. Will this option keep with STR DEX in damage at all? Obviously not because it shouldn't. It will also be completely outclassed later on because of other Bow options, so it really wouldn't be a permanent option. As of right now though it isn't all that bad. Sorcerie Bow has an up via production (lvl 145), but no autoskill. It does however have damage reduction by consuming MP, which interests me at least a little bit. ATK :260-275 magic bow skill delay -1 seconds MaxMP-12%, Get defending to reduce the damage by consuming MP
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 11, 2014 23:05:33 GMT
Sorcerie Bow does not have an UP from what I am seeing on JP wiki. It has no autoskill anything on it. It's stats all benefit Sniper a good bit and do almost nothing for Enchanter. It is not an Enchanter weapon at all. It is an option for Snipers who wish to do an INT DEX build. Will this option keep with STR DEX in damage at all? Obviously not because it shouldn't. It will also be completely outclassed later on because of other Bow options, so it really wouldn't be a permanent option. As of right now though it isn't all that bad. Sorcerie Bow has an up via production (lvl 145), but no autoskill. It does however have damage reduction by consuming MP, which interests me at least a little bit. ATK :260-275 magic bow skill delay -1 seconds MaxMP-12%, Get defending to reduce the damage by consuming MP Oh! I didn't know you could up stuff via production so I didn't think to check. Yeah those stats still seem very suited to Sniper over Enchanter. It will still be a weaker build than a DEX STR one in most cases but may actually be able to self sustain with Bless at a certain point. Unless of course you are partying with a Monk in which case it would do more.
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Post by echeyde on Jun 13, 2014 19:00:40 GMT
Someone know who drops the spell sword ring?
and dainsleif is a good sword for enchant?
thanks for the reply ;-)
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 13, 2014 19:07:36 GMT
Someone know who drops the spell sword ring? and dainsleif is a good sword for enchant? thanks for the reply ;-) Spellsword Ring is dropped by Ancient Knights in f43-44 of Eternity Maze. I don't know anything about Dainsleif. Do you know stats or what drops it? Edit: Nevermind I found it haha. It isn't good for Enchanter.
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Post by tasm on Jun 13, 2014 21:20:28 GMT
Someone know who drops the spell sword ring? and dainsleif is a good sword for enchant? thanks for the reply ;-) Yup, dainsleif is gladiator sword. It's neat in that it has a low probability of casting Astute on attack. 10k dmg hit easy. It gives critical up, same as schwartz and has one more stat I think. But all in all it's a very good and rarely used blade for gladiator.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 9:05:49 GMT
Ok sound good. How about we place a small bet on it too . Friendly game , say 5m? If I successfully kill it in x3 rounds . 1) i'm not online and i dont plan to interrupt my daily life just to see your probability to get the bow which doesn't benefit me at all. 2) i mentioned "unless your ninja use iron armor" so in other word, stun reducing thing is absolutely not going. no avatars. 3) i take your bet. its my game. its my rule. edited: we are going off topic. CrystalQ will be so happy to ban this. Ya I'll be happy too ^^ but then it's back on topic now. Thanks echeyde ! Ps. I'm just doing my job o-ob
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