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Post by Mahouko on Jun 6, 2014 10:53:27 GMT
It might take awhile, but it's easy with Ninja. Sure it stuns, but swings are so slow that it's not a problem getting clones back up. Despite this, I still use iron up whenever there's an incoming swing as a precaution. try with ninja first. its easy by theory so try it by practical. herald don't have a cigar break while your ninja is stunned unless your ninja always use iron armor. i tried with 2 ninjas in pt. a lv225 & another is a lv169 magic ninja. both die when stunned unless herald change his target afterward. a ninja lv194 or so steal my kill and needless to say, he died. he's lucky that there's a hw in his pt to heal whenever he die again. I've already done it and have been soloing it. They must not have quick fingers >.> Edit - I only DoC right after it swings, so I can clone up if it decides to stun. I've seen other ninjas die, trust me, but it really doesn't happen to me. Iron never, without iron, probably possible, but it wasn't really happening then either.
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 6, 2014 13:50:44 GMT
syerin sorry to say, but tookoozv is right here. A ninja with enough eva can easily solo, and even a ninja at just 600 or so eva can solo without death if they're careful. His stun isn't very long, and his next hit isn't very accurate, so Herald isn't entirely hard for ninjas. I used to solo him on jp all the time in my 160s lol.
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Post by Illumina on Jun 6, 2014 13:52:58 GMT
I am not siding with anyone and I haven't tried farming that Herald mini boss. But a ninja with 1hp can survive in general even after being stunned or blinded as long as they can evade the opponents next hits. If herald have high hit/crit rate or frequently uses skill/spells, it will be a real challenge for Ninjas. EDIT: Oops I didn't see Prayerz post before. So there, if herald's attacks aren't accurate chances of survival for ninjas are high. That's why it's also important for ninjas to have an evade set.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 14:40:27 GMT
syerin sorry to say, but tookoozv is right here. A ninja with enough eva can easily solo, and even a ninja at just 600 or so eva can solo without death if they're careful. His stun isn't very long, and his next hit isn't very accurate, so Herald isn't entirely hard for ninjas. I used to solo him on jp all the time in my 160s lol. i dont mean they cant. i say no ninja ever survive it from what i see. they just die and revived by their healer and keep on fighting. edited: so all ninjas that i see dying is just a fined-tuned coincidence to be weak? seriously. all ninjas i see in game stealing my party's kill dies and all ninja in forum survives.
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 6, 2014 14:51:40 GMT
syerin sorry to say, but tookoozv is right here. A ninja with enough eva can easily solo, and even a ninja at just 600 or so eva can solo without death if they're careful. His stun isn't very long, and his next hit isn't very accurate, so Herald isn't entirely hard for ninjas. I used to solo him on jp all the time in my 160s lol. i dont mean they cant. i say no ninja ever survive it from what i see. they just die and revived by their healer and keep on fighting. edited: so all ninjas that i see dying is just a fined-tuned coincidence to be weak? seriously. all ninjas i see in game stealing my party's kill dies and all ninja in forum survives. As I said, it's easy, not definite. Just need to be smart, which most ninjas on english server aren't. If they play smart, then solo with no deaths should be easy. Haha
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Post by Illumina on Jun 6, 2014 15:10:15 GMT
That part of the dungeon is still a few days old so I think people are still adjusting and coming up with good strategies to survive fighting with Herald. And I guess if they have a back up healer they don't bother being careful since they can be healed anyway, specially if the party is piloted by a single person using multiple devices.
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Post by louise on Jun 7, 2014 14:06:55 GMT
Cheers for the smart and all mighty ninjas hep hep hurray!!!!
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Post by Statikk on Jun 7, 2014 19:16:40 GMT
Cheers for the smart and all mighty ninjas hep hep hurray!!!! I laughed so hard ._.
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Post by reb13 on Jun 8, 2014 13:25:41 GMT
Qns this is suppose b bout enchanter not ninja sooooooo y ninjas everywhr!!!! XD
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Post by Illumina on Jun 8, 2014 19:56:02 GMT
Qns this is suppose b bout enchanter not ninja sooooooo y ninjas everywhr!!!! XD Ahh, true.. I didn't even noticed. O.O tsk tsk.. you ninjas are very sneaky, trying to hi-jack Enchanters territory eh? -- ON TOPIC -- Soooo.. is the new magic bow better than the bow from prod?
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 8, 2014 21:01:17 GMT
Qns this is suppose b bout enchanter not ninja sooooooo y ninjas everywhr!!!! XD Ahh, true.. I didn't even noticed. O.O tsk tsk.. you ninjas are very sneaky, trying to hi-jack Enchanters territory eh? -- ON TOPIC -- Soooo.. is the new magic bow better than the bow from prod? Magic Bow from production=Sniper Weapon New Magic Bow=Enchanter Weapon Also new magic bow currently does a good bit less damage than Dia Espada from my experience. The autoskill is Dark Blast :/
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 9, 2014 3:27:25 GMT
Ahh, true.. I didn't even noticed. O.O tsk tsk.. you ninjas are very sneaky, trying to hi-jack Enchanters territory eh? -- ON TOPIC -- Soooo.. is the new magic bow better than the bow from prod? Magic Bow from production=Sniper Weapon New Magic Bow=Enchanter Weapon Also new magic bow currently does a good bit less damage than Dia Espada from my experience. The autoskill is Dark Blast :/ Production bow isnt for snipers o.e
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 9, 2014 4:35:39 GMT
Magic Bow from production=Sniper Weapon New Magic Bow=Enchanter Weapon Also new magic bow currently does a good bit less damage than Dia Espada from my experience. The autoskill is Dark Blast :/ Production bow isnt for snipers o.e It's stats are more suited to Snipers than to Enchanters. It does kind of suck though, unless -1.5 sec skill delay is enough for max speed Arrow Rain. It's for INT DEX builds.
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Post by crazybrker on Jun 9, 2014 4:44:28 GMT
Yea, I don't see much use for Seele when compared to Dia. Maybe for farming small stuff that you can 1HK, saving you time on running to that mob. Maybe to help with some ranged damage to a boss. Since we don't hold too much hate, you might as well equip the Dia and get in there to do better damage along side with the tank/ninja.
What drops that manawave ring in the OP?
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Post by Prayerz on Jun 9, 2014 17:55:32 GMT
Production bow isnt for snipers o.e It's stats are more suited to Snipers than to Enchanters. It does kind of suck though, unless -1.5 sec skill delay is enough for max speed Arrow Rain. It's for INT DEX builds. Its for enchanters. As all magic weapons main class are enchanters. Other classes might make use of it, but its still for enchanter.
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