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Autoskill
Nov 21, 2017 7:14:26 GMT
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Post by Rain on Nov 21, 2017 7:14:26 GMT
Also, that purple apos autoskill boost is universal for all class. If you think your proc rate higher for another class with purple line, probably because purple line increase critical rate which useful for more autoskill chance by attack. Fyi, even without purple apos, bishop & servant still able proc 2-4 magic counter autoskill at once. They use cyan apos and I still saw 2-4 autoskill proc at once. Even ench still had chance to only proc 2 auto in single attack outside special status buff. Any verified source about crit rate affects auto?? Afaik only BK bite is affected by CRT dunno if crit rate also affect bite.. And Defense auto proc more than attack auto with no auto % bcoz they have different chance rate..
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Autoskill
Nov 21, 2017 8:14:36 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 21, 2017 8:14:36 GMT
rain crt rate not affect autoskill proc rate, but if your attack missed, your auto wont proc. So more hit or crt rate, more chance to land normal/critical attack which make more chance to proc auto. Yep, defense autoskill had higher chance to proc compared to attack chance autoskill. But damage disable autoskill maybe had lower chance to proc.
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Autoskill
Nov 21, 2017 10:25:55 GMT
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Nov 21, 2017 10:25:55 GMT
rain crt rate not affect autoskill proc rate, but if your attack missed, your auto wont proc. So more hit or crt rate, more chance to land normal/critical attack which make more chance to proc auto. Yep, defense autoskill had higher chance to proc compared to attack chance autoskill. But damage disable autoskill maybe had lower chance to proc. Does the proc rate increase with 2 Damage disable Autoskill? Or it's just 1 Autoskill didn't proc, so another one "might" proc thought?
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 21, 2017 10:35:37 GMT
rain crt rate not affect autoskill proc rate, but if your attack missed, your auto wont proc. So more hit or crt rate, more chance to land normal/critical attack which make more chance to proc auto. Yep, defense autoskill had higher chance to proc compared to attack chance autoskill. But damage disable autoskill maybe had lower chance to proc. Does the proc rate increase with 2 Damage disable Autoskill? Or it's just 1 Autoskill didn't proc, so another one "might" proc thought?If you had 4 damage disable auto in your gear, you will had chance to proc up to 4 auto at once, so more damage disable in your gear you will had more chance to proc one. But, each damage disable proc rate is lower compared to another counter type. Lets say, each damage disable auto has 5% chance to proc each time you got hit without any autoskill rate gear,crysta, al, or skills. With autoskill rate from gear etc (lets say) you had +30%, each your damage disable will have 5%+30%=35% chance to active when you got hit. So if you had 4 damage disable autoskill from gear, each damage disable has 35% chance to proc. More damage disable just make damage disable proc chance higher (if your target is just proc one of them) but it will be never reach 100% chance to proc (If yes, ench will be too Op even without sr gear ._.).
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Post by Rain on Nov 21, 2017 13:13:24 GMT
Also, that purple apos autoskill boost is universal for all class. If you think your proc rate higher for another class with purple line, probably because purple line increase critical rate which useful for more autoskill chance by attack.
Fyi, even without purple apos, bishop & servant still able proc 2-4 magic counter autoskill at once. They use cyan apos and I still saw 2-4 autoskill proc at once. Even ench still had chance to only proc 2 auto in single attack outside special status buff. Can mean anything.
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Post by Rain on Nov 21, 2017 13:14:54 GMT
rain crt rate not affect autoskill proc rate, but if your attack missed, your auto wont proc. So more hit or crt rate, more chance to land normal/critical attack which make more chance to proc auto. Yep, defense autoskill had higher chance to proc compared to attack chance autoskill. But damage disable autoskill maybe had lower chance to proc. Does the proc rate increase with 2 Damage disable Autoskill? Or it's just 1 Autoskill didn't proc, so another one "might" proc thought?Try it with monk. Works wonder
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 21, 2017 13:15:18 GMT
Also, that purple apos autoskill boost is universal for all class. If you think your proc rate higher for another class with purple line, probably because purple line increase critical rate which useful for more autoskill chance by attack.
Fyi, even without purple apos, bishop & servant still able proc 2-4 magic counter autoskill at once. They use cyan apos and I still saw 2-4 autoskill proc at once. Even ench still had chance to only proc 2 auto in single attack outside special status buff. Can mean anything. Read again this one
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 7:35:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 7:35:22 GMT
You say purple "line" meaning 1 singular line? so if i have max auto skill Al setup (6 purple lines), would be 24% no? No, 6 purple line only give you 2% autoskill rate (4% if you have 100 stats point at rlb & blb) [Purple】 Red Blue → Purple Auto skill · ASPD · Critical rate UP 1 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 2 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 3 line auto skill + 1%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 4 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 5 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 6 line auto skill + 1%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? Source:from link that I post before (scroll down until you found apostolia explanation) Lol thanks. That's so lame though. A single Halios Al Crysta is better than red and blue lines both maxed. Better off going green and blue.
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 22, 2017 12:11:06 GMT
If you consider the 2% value as trustworthy, then with 100 rlb & blb it'd be up to 6%
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 12:15:46 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 12:15:46 GMT
If you consider the 2% value as trustworthy, then with 100 rlb & blb it'd be up to 6% Why 6%? With 100 blb you will get 1% autoskill plus 1% if you had 100 rlb since autoskill comes from purple line (red+blue). Did I missed something?
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 22, 2017 12:17:31 GMT
If you consider the 2% value as trustworthy, then with 100 rlb & blb it'd be up to 6% Why 6%? With 100 blb you will get 1% autoskill plus 1% if you had 100 rlb since autoskill comes from purple line (red+blue). Did I missed something? with 100 blb you'll get 100% of 2%, which is 4%, and with rlb you'll get another 100%, so 6%
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 12:20:32 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 12:20:32 GMT
Why 6%? With 100 blb you will get 1% autoskill plus 1% if you had 100 rlb since autoskill comes from purple line (red+blue). Did I missed something? with 100 blb you'll get 100% of 2%, which is 4%, and with rlb you'll get another 100%, so 6% Are you sure not 4%? Blue apos & red apos didnt give autoskill boost, just purple one. I read in this forum that you need 100 pts at blb & glb to make matk boost from cyan apos become double. So I think same theory will happend to purple apos.
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 22, 2017 12:25:55 GMT
with 100 blb you'll get 100% of 2%, which is 4%, and with rlb you'll get another 100%, so 6% Are you sure not 4%? Blue apos & red apos didnt give autoskill boost, just purple one. I read in this forum that you need 100 pts at blb & glb to make matk boost from cyan apos become double. well if you consider the jp wiki as undoubtable i'll just quote a few lines from 3 or 4 centimeters before the apos lines description: "A single color (red, green, blue) line bonus is 2% and a mixed color line bonus 1% UP each shake to 1 lb." Simply put, 1 point into a line boost gives 1% boost to a mixed line effect (purple/yellow/cyan, 100% at max for each LB stat) and 2% to a normal one (red/blue/green, 200% at max for each LB stat) ^^
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 12:43:42 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 12:43:42 GMT
Dragsbro I dont have valid source about apos stats boost, so I cant tell whether your argument is true or not (so do my theory). If you had char that has 100 blb & glb, maybe you can compare matk boost with cyan apos and non cyan apos. For example your sk has raw 4k matk, then change your apos to your 2nd page that isnt cyan apos. If your matk difference between cyan & non cyan apos is more than 460 (raw matk without any matk gears or al) or over 1k (if you had matk al), your theory probably true. But if your matk boost is around 460 (without matk al) or bellow than 900 or 1k (with apos al) maybe your matk boost not 200% but only 100%. Any result by this experiment will become main formula to all apos stats calculation.
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 22, 2017 12:47:02 GMT
Dragsbro I dont have valid source about apos stats boost, so I cant tell whether your argument is true or not (so do my theory). If you had char that has 100 blb & glb, maybe you can compare matk boost with cyan apos and non cyan apos. For example your sk has raw 4k matk, then change your apos to your 2nd page that isnt cyan apos. If your matk difference between cyan & non cyan apos is more than 460 (raw matk without any matk gears or al) or over 1k (if you had matk al), your theory probably true. But if your matk boost is around 460 (without matk al) or bellow than 900 or 1k (with apos al) maybe your matk boost not 200% but only 100%. Any result by this experiment will become main formula to all apos stats calculation. well, im pretty sure the japanese people did a good job on this one since it's pretty easy to calculate, contrary to auto% xD if you want ill do tests thiis evening but to me its pretty sure already
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