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Post by menard899 on Nov 17, 2017 21:52:18 GMT
Hi all, i have done some quick test on a potential venom build. Venom attack base on int and dex ( correct me if im wrong ) would need a max int dex crt build. Using venom fist, wich is ur second dmg skill, double venom dmg every cast. So venom atck exemple 5000dmg spam venom fist( half bs dmg) go like 5000x2=10kx2=20kx2=40kx2=80k up to 100k base on max poison dmg over time. Now that you understand that part, i will introduce my test equipment and build.
Assassin lvl 261 no apo
Int 256
Dex 256
Crt 256
Kage+9 seele zauga
Thief garb last up seele zauga
Monty up veleno ( from other build )
Argent ring ns.
My venom attack start at 8k and seem to ignore any kind of def.
My venom fist 30k and slow cast right now
On yard ive been able to deal up to 158k poison dmg over time wich i find not bad.
So equipment needed could be close to same backstab with seele zauga 15% poison dmg wich go up to 120% in 4slot.venom could go up to 220k with medium high venom fist dmg.
I think this build can deal 300k dmg sec
With backstab and deathblow capacity
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 18, 2017 0:54:51 GMT
I think this build can deal 300k dmg sec I think that's pretty low if you take into consideration that some assassins can do 800k+/sec with backstab. Maybe it would be good to use the poison skills just when the boss has a melee barrier. And for this the normal assassin build and gears will be enough I think. |
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Post by menard899 on Nov 18, 2017 2:16:59 GMT
300k is an estimate from what i do right now. Full seele zauga bring max venom to 220k cap and venom fist can go high with kage/ultimi/monty up. I will keep grinding and leave some update. More to fellow next month
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Post by blacksheep on Nov 18, 2017 17:14:41 GMT
Imho Venom Fist build is still useless in most in game activities.
You will use it only farmin high def/barrier bosses, some solo mq and maybe on Raaton raid.
It should be more usefull with skill upgrades, but thats still long time to wait becouse first we probably get Backstab modification/BS enhancing skill that allow us to teleport behind enemy so you can spam BS without taking care about your position.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Nov 18, 2017 18:19:13 GMT
Sin 320-340 Skills
blacksheep That comes with the new skills as those are adjustments made to make your job that little bit easier. Don't know why but for some classes they added some adjustments on the same date as the skill releases on English.
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Post by menard899 on Nov 19, 2017 14:28:04 GMT
What the highess venom dmg possible right now with full int dex, no xtal?
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Post by Ravitox on Nov 20, 2017 3:05:54 GMT
What the highess venom dmg possible right now with full int dex, no xtal? The current poison damage (if that's what you mean by venom) is capped at 100k per tick. This is the cap no matter the xtals or whatever gear you have. The current venom fist damage has no cap, but it is not as high as backstab's critical damage. The highest I have seen from a capped sin in game is around 200k per venom fist use (without having poison ticking/using venom attack). If you're asking for the second one (damage of the venom fist itself) with just full int dex and no xtal, that may be hard to answer for a few reasons: 1. Sins are rarely full int-dex, and full dex is unnecessary and wastes stat points that can be put into str.
2. Venom fist is a level 260 skill, and most sins at that point have to be somewhat geared at least, meaning they will have ele or crt damage xtals on them, and maybe even some AL xtals. It will be harder to find a sin with no gear at 260 than a sin that is full int-dex.
3. Who actually uses venom fist?
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Post by bolucookies on Nov 22, 2017 6:05:10 GMT
I used to venom build ass b4 i deleted it to bcome sniper. My experience using this build is this build is good for solo but slower than bs but u relax while bullying bosses. Int vit dex build using tysrary 95 resist
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Post by menard899 on Nov 24, 2017 0:34:50 GMT
What the highess venom dmg possible right now with full int dex, no xtal? The current poison damage (if that's what you mean by venom) is capped at 100k per tick. This is the cap no matter the xtals or whatever gear you have. The current venom fist damage has no cap, but it is not as high as backstab's critical damage. The highest I have seen from a capped sin in game is around 200k per venom fist use (without having poison ticking/using venom attack). If you're asking for the second one (damage of the venom fist itself) with just full int dex and no xtal, that may be hard to answer for a few reasons: 1. Sins are rarely full int-dex, and full dex is unnecessary and wastes stat points that can be put into str.
2. Venom fist is a level 260 skill, and most sins at that point have to be somewhat geared at least, meaning they will have ele or crt damage xtals on them, and maybe even some AL xtals. It will be harder to find a sin with no gear at 260 than a sin that is full int-dex.
3. Who actually uses venom fist?
I mean basic poison dmg from Venom attack,before using venom fist. |
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Post by blacksheep on Nov 24, 2017 14:13:45 GMT
The current poison damage (if that's what you mean by venom) is capped at 100k per tick. This is the cap no matter the xtals or whatever gear you have. The current venom fist damage has no cap, but it is not as high as backstab's critical damage. The highest I have seen from a capped sin in game is around 200k per venom fist use (without having poison ticking/using venom attack). If you're asking for the second one (damage of the venom fist itself) with just full int dex and no xtal, that may be hard to answer for a few reasons: 1. Sins are rarely full int-dex, and full dex is unnecessary and wastes stat points that can be put into str.
2. Venom fist is a level 260 skill, and most sins at that point have to be somewhat geared at least, meaning they will have ele or crt damage xtals on them, and maybe even some AL xtals. It will be harder to find a sin with no gear at 260 than a sin that is full int-dex.
3. Who actually uses venom fist?
I mean basic poison dmg from Venom attack,before using venom fist. (INT + DEX) × (SLv × 2) (430+430) * (3*2) = 860*6=5160 Ofc if 430 is max stat lvl and Im not sure about it so please correct me |
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Post by Owe on Jan 15, 2018 17:33:20 GMT
Ok I have a couple of question lol
1) so 100k poison damage is hard cap?? Like if I used a poison dmg+% gear would it make a difference
2) is Dex even worth maxing even for a poison build?? Like you start with a lower tick but it ends up the same right??
Thanks
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Post by pingrek on Jan 15, 2018 19:29:35 GMT
Ok I have a couple of question lol 1) so 100k poison damage is hard cap?? Like if I used a poison dmg+% gear would it make a difference 2) is Dex even worth maxing even for a poison build?? Like you start with a lower tick but it ends up the same right?? Thanks I believe 100k is the original cap and then if you have poison+% it will add that to the cap, so if you have +50% poison damage and you hit the cap and then switched to poison gear with the 50% poison would now deal 150k, as for dex I can't really answer that because I'm not sure what the newer skills that haven't been released need but I would say backstab is still the main damage even with the new skills so low dex is still probably preferable even if you plan on using poison to add in extra damage since backstab should outdamage it |
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Post by Owe on Jan 15, 2018 21:35:40 GMT
I believe 100k is the original cap and then if you have poison+% it will add that to the cap, so if you have +50% poison damage and you hit the cap and then switched to poison gear with the 50% poison would now deal 150k, as for dex I can't really answer that because I'm not sure what the newer skills that haven't been released need but I would say backstab is still the main damage even with the new skills so low dex is still probably preferable even if you plan on using poison to add in extra damage since backstab should outdamage it Haha awesome thanks guess that means that my next project is greenlighted xD on a secondary note would anyone happen to know the Int and str requirements for 10 sec sicarius?? Last thing I need to know 😂 |
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Post by batuo on Apr 20, 2018 15:51:01 GMT
There is a throw from a side quest in saterica poison dagger ups poison damage
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Post by °Malice° on Nov 29, 2018 13:50:41 GMT
U need to use venom fist 4 times to achieve max poison dmg if im not mistaken past 2 years i do 245k dmg. I think maxing dex is good idea since venom atk s.d is slow and venom fist delay like 2 second if u follow the bs delay dex stat. I notice venom fist s.d is faster after sin able to rear bs (rebalance patch) like 1 second (my dex is max n im using monty up atm). The strategy is venom atk> venom fist x4 if mobs/mons poisoned > spam bs with all u got xD. This build is more sturdy tho than pure bs spammer. U can add vit for more hp. Idk if new sin skill makes us poison mobs easier/combo from poisoning effect. Poison ignore defense. Cheers.
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