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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 16, 2018 11:30:11 GMT
I'm at level 252 and have 102 stst points I've been itching to use right now 321 vit 320 dex 100 int. Special sword user. Would 103 agi even make a diiference on higher level bosses for survivability? Or am i better off to keep lvling vit and dex and putting the points there? And i know the agi won't raise my atk w special sword im happy w my dmg for now. No, 103 AGI wouldn't make any difference on higher lvl bosses.
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Post by chrisrn on Aug 16, 2018 11:45:34 GMT
I'm at level 252 and have 102 stst points I've been itching to use right now 321 vit 320 dex 100 int. Special sword user. Would 103 agi even make a diiference on higher level bosses for survivability? Or am i better off to keep lvling vit and dex and putting the points there? And i know the agi won't raise my atk w special sword im happy w my dmg for now. No, 103 AGI wouldn't make any difference on higher lvl bosses. So how much agility would be required 256? Higher? I work for a living so getting a stefly seems more reasonable than farming a resist set.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 16, 2018 12:47:41 GMT
No, 103 AGI wouldn't make any difference on higher lvl bosses. So how much agility would be required 256? Higher? I work for a living so getting a stefly seems more reasonable than farming a resist set. Pally's survival is pretty good even without a resist set, using normal pally equips. I wouldn't suggest adding AGI to your current build. Either do VIT-DEX-STR (dmg build), VIT-DEX-INT (less dmg, more MP and mdef) or a combination of these two. If you want a build with AGI: VIT-INT-AGI - build using special throwing weapon. Dmg should be even lower than the VIT-DEX-INT build, but survival will be the best of the 3 builds, since you can evade attacks in addition to resisting them well. At higher lvls you'll have all 3 stats maxed.
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Post by chrisrn on Aug 21, 2018 8:05:16 GMT
Hey would a section on absolute evasion be out on line. I was going to add agility, after auto atk off, to my vit dex 100 int build but decided that wouldn't help w evading boss criticals and rate cut attacks. But I read the abs eva xtals, ai crysta, and gear may help lessen those. Is it viable? Or do all those gear and xtals come w too big of a penalty for paladins?
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Post by Jophes on Aug 21, 2018 12:18:28 GMT
Hey would a section on absolute evasion be out on line. I was going to add agility, after auto atk off, to my vit dex 100 int build but decided that wouldn't help w evading boss criticals and rate cut attacks. But I read the abs eva xtals, ai crysta, and gear may help lessen those. Is it viable? Or do all those gear and xtals come w too big of a penalty for paladins? IMO, it may just be better to use rate cut abilities and al xtals to counter those damages since they will guarantee better protection and it wouldn't be avoiding it based on chance. With rate cut abilities and al xtals, it's quite easy to reach a high percentage of rate cut. Divine aura also gives a lot depending on how much vit you have. I don't really know of many abs eva items and such but I'm going to guess that we are able to get up to like 40% abs eva tops maybe (CMIIW)? With a pretty low percentage like that, and the kinds of equip it takes to reach that amount of abs eva, you'd be sacrificing a lot of melee and magic resist, which would be much more important to keep up with.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 21, 2018 16:01:07 GMT
I'm going to guess that we are able to get up to like 40% abs eva tops maybe (CMIIW)? Stardust Bow: Absolute & Magic Evasion +20%. Leather Coat reup: Absolute & Magic evasion +6%. Snowflower Ribbons: Absolute & Magic evasion +15%. Master Jittoku Tool: Absolute & Magic evasion +5%. ▲ Shelk: Absolute & Magic evasion +5%. ◇ Flora: Absolute & Magic evasion +5% on Body. ◇ Mio: Absolute evasion +4%. Stardust Bow Mio, Leather Coat reup Flora, Snowflower Ribbons Mio, Master Jittoku Tool, ▲ Shelk. That's a total of 64% absolute evasion and 56% magic evasion. But still, evasion is unreliable, chrisrn. Resistance is much better.
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Post by Pixie on Aug 27, 2018 14:23:56 GMT
New question as i dont see it posted in workable builds
can vit agi dex work ok as special sword user/holy thruster xD? (new to pally and finally leveling since auto feature implimented) I love the skill but not sure if it uses matk as well as max hp to calculate dmg.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 28, 2018 10:24:34 GMT
New question as i dont see it posted in workable builds can vit agi dex work ok as special sword user/holy thruster xD? (new to pally and finally leveling since auto feature implimented) I love the skill but not sure if it uses matk as well as max hp to calculate dmg. I think it should work. Dmg should be better than VIT-INT-AGI spec throw build, on par with the VIT-DEX-INT build.
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Post by D★ on Nov 1, 2018 22:57:55 GMT
In my personal experience i only use 2 sets most time; survival-tank set (Melee&magic r, item delay,item recovery, rate cut, iniliba (damage cut autoskill)) and oath set (fudo, Heinrich (-25% melee r from ira isn't safe at all), Monty reup/vida/melee+15% to element, granvia/vida (safest option when grinding mobs with rc or when YQ), myrica NS, knight gauntlet and Iron Tsuba (more dmg than myrica on non element mobs)...
There is no reason on adding hate set if can't tank the boss, i don't use guardian set, i just equip Izumi or habakiri (9k mp pool with Heinrich + sieger) i'm lacking on hp, but doest matter at all if 5%-8% damage....
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Post by Zycron on Nov 2, 2018 16:15:08 GMT
I have 3 sets but I only ever use 2
Oath set Izu II Bellow Monty Myrica
All telon
Then my Tank set Genuis Licht Cuirass Chief God stone
All Inilba
My 3rd set I never use HP guard set Wound Trans Saltus rereup Idolsol Myrica
Mix altadora, 20%hp
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Post by D★ on Nov 4, 2018 14:22:17 GMT
Em... Just for ask... Why people use izu ii for oath set? Its inferior compared to Nio/Fudo in terms of atk, also delay from izu don't make oath faster, adding Telon make It a waste because It kills the -delay from izu ii, imo fudo and nio are the best ones for oath.
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 5, 2018 8:56:42 GMT
Em... Just for ask... Why people use izu ii for oath set? Its inferior compared to Nio/Fudo in terms of atk, also delay from izu don't make oath faster, adding Telon make It a waste because It kills the -delay from izu ii, imo fudo and nio are the best ones for oath. The person who posted before you uses izu 2, but I think the majority of players have already upgraded to nio/fudo. As to why someone would still use izu 2, it could be because it does the job for them and they don't need the extra dmg, or haven't played pally in a while and forgot to keep their equips updated, or their izu 2 is 2s.
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Post by Zycron on Nov 5, 2018 16:37:56 GMT
I was gone for 3 months just coming back and I am still farming up the spina for new weap that's the only reason I still use izu II
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Post by lacs on Nov 8, 2018 1:31:23 GMT
Em... Just for ask... Why people use izu ii for oath set? Its inferior compared to Nio/Fudo in terms of atk, also delay from izu don't make oath faster, adding Telon make It a waste because It kills the -delay from izu ii, imo fudo and nio are the best ones for oath. The person who posted before you uses izu 2, but I think the majority of players have already upgraded to nio/fudo. As to why someone would still use izu 2, it could be because it does the job for them and they don't need the extra dmg, or haven't played pally in a while and forgot to keep their equips updated, or their izu 2 is 2s. or because that's the only equipment i have with delay so i can spam guardian
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 8, 2018 11:54:45 GMT
The person who posted before you uses izu 2, but I think the majority of players have already upgraded to nio/fudo. As to why someone would still use izu 2, it could be because it does the job for them and they don't need the extra dmg, or haven't played pally in a while and forgot to keep their equips updated, or their izu 2 is 2s. or because that's the only equipment i have with delay so i can spam guardian The struggles of an INT pally who can't use BOO, I assume
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