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Post by Messiah on Nov 10, 2017 4:56:31 GMT
Yea i agree...samurai needs to be able to generate more hate x.x But to the main point...finishing stroke ._.30 seconds.... really? At least drop it to 15 seconds
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Post by Messiah on Nov 10, 2017 4:57:11 GMT
...and you must kill her to clear bushindo sq at lv300 ._. I figured a way past that x) just kill her dragon form....its way easier
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Post by 🔷Raichant🔷 on Nov 10, 2017 4:57:54 GMT
Whatever they do to enchanter,i just have adapt to it.That is wise thing to do rather than complaining.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 10, 2017 5:22:12 GMT
It remind me with my enchanter pre skill update. I still love play with her even we did not welcomed in pt, average damage, and only had good point in survival term (but gladi has better survival I think). After update, I never expected that ench can do 300k-500k (sometimes can reach 1m) per auto attack, but now they can xD.
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Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Nov 10, 2017 7:09:10 GMT
I often make my classes soloable and get so much crap for it xD. You cant one shot mobs or bosses? Ur useless >=[ But yeah its no use arguing here just roll with the changes and figure out new strategies ^=^
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Nov 10, 2017 7:54:57 GMT
wow based on the poll both on ios and android hw and bishop got the most users wish they do a poll on en too .. pretty sure this will rank highest in my opinion hw bishop sk mins followed by assassin enchanter sniper pally beast knights claw monk gladiator geo monk servant adventurer That moment when samurai isnt even mentioned q.q Alchi too...
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Post by AnTz on Nov 10, 2017 9:09:58 GMT
It remind me with my enchanter pre skill update. I still love play with her even we did not welcomed in pt, average damage, and only had good point in survival term (but gladi has better survival I think). After update, I never expected that ench can do 300k-500k (sometimes can reach 1m) per auto attack, but now they can xD. I'm agree with u. I'm a type of player who don't judge a job/class purely by damage output. The main point is to love ur choice of class, not because of it's damage, but because of it's play style suite u.
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 10, 2017 10:05:27 GMT
Resurrection needs a bloody nerf. There should be like at least 15 seconds of exhaustion after resurrection. Clone needs nerf too. Burn and other statuses should affect them too. clones are already vulnerable to ailments..it will affect directly to ur hp even if we have clones x I think his point was, ailments should affect clones directly, like a poison hit killing a clone. But even then, i gotta say i can't really see the point. And you could say the same for stoneskin or other stuffs
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Post by Done~with~forums on Nov 10, 2017 11:40:43 GMT
That moment when samurai isnt even mentioned q.q Alchi too... Alch is op as hell but i highly believe they wont be effected by this
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 10, 2017 13:50:46 GMT
In all honestey they'll prob just adjust the dmg formulas, like I think in jp/en backstab is something something × 5 and in imode its ×6
So like if doc and fs is something something ×9 they might knock the dmg down to 8 or make the formula like .5 × per clone or refine
Or like drop matk and atk values like oh instead of that equipment giving +14% matk it'll give +10% matk
As far as resu goes I think 7 sec cool down is bad enough, if they're gonna Nerf it it'll probably be a duration cut, like it only lastig 10 secs instead of 5mins or healing what the Bish's heal is and not full health or half health..... It's been awhile since someone buffed me .-.
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 10, 2017 15:16:15 GMT
I wish I can make money as fast as this thread get 6 pages after a day
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Serena
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Post by Serena on Nov 10, 2017 16:23:02 GMT
About resu, I dont think it need to fix, just try pt farm boss without bish or ask bish not to resu and u will see. Duration cut or not wont be a problem because dmg dealer will lose resu under 10sec for sure, that's why bish needs to spam. Servant cant find a pt farm is not because of resu. Just compare skills from 140 to 260 of both classes, even bish doesnt have resu, bish still has aegis lv3, quick, priere, relevation (limit), risparmio (for some cases), that can increase matk, reduce delay... while servant doesnt have it. Sharp eye seems the most useless skill, we usually farm popular bosses so we can remember the elements, or if not just use it for first run, unless bosses change element after a run, sounds servant wastes a skill. About soul connection, can send points over 256 now? Even can, servant cant satisfy all builds. The other skills of sevant I find is it fit for solo mq or dps pt farm, not spam skill pt farm. With agi type mirror coat and light shield work together pretty well, my servant passed minela, cordal without dying. Idk why servants want to replace bish in "meta pt", their place sticks with auto type I think. If nothing about skills changes after "fix balance", when servant reach skill 340, will be prefered in pt, especially with enchant, monk auto, buff aura espada is great for them. Btw, all problems of balance I see is about the skill of each class released, not about the dmg.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 10, 2017 16:35:57 GMT
Bish need to be nerfed because no variation in nowday party. Farming party always consist bish & mins, however servant cannot get party even they main role is supporter. Serv and bish buff is different, servant is hate management buff with little heal variation and bish is complete heal buff with no hate management. But since ressu didnt attract hate (or just little attract hate), meta party can kill boss without tanker or hate management class. Thats why I agree with most player that current job is inbalance in term of party combination.
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 10, 2017 17:47:34 GMT
imbalance in term of party combination is cause by ppl
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 10, 2017 17:49:19 GMT
Assually, just cutting out sh would bring balance to everything, I'd personally hire some game masters before I cut stuff back. Technically you could give most guild masters the ability to ban people, as much as I hate alot of gms most in lvl 50+ guilds are anti sh bot stuff, or like even the admin/mods of sites like these
Although I guess one could argue it's technically impossible to find people that never hack or have hacked since u can't technically prove it, but it's still a thot, and we know how asobimo deals with those
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