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Post by Undyne on Mar 11, 2018 2:26:28 GMT
And today is the day where I know for a fact that I made the right decision by making a tank over a ninja xD
60 second resu debuff may be sliiightly too much though. 30 sec max would probably be much more than enough, but excited nonetheless
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Post by bikini on Mar 11, 2018 11:49:58 GMT
But aegis is cleric skill, not bishop skills.
Many bosses stund, so mirror coat not a choice, servant shield is aoe with good range, and the job isnt balanced/nerfed atm, its hard tell.
Hw mirage is based on mp, when i use 4k mp skill is useless, but when i have 15k+ is more efective taken 1 damage from critical, even lv 200-220 bosses can hit very hard -.-
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Post by Serena on Mar 11, 2018 11:50:44 GMT
Are special attack, hp cut counted as aoe or instant boss attack or different type? Does hidden of soul connect reduce dmg to 0 for all pt members except who is targeted, has hate rise or it just reduce for only servant? Best healer or not I think it’s up to each person, with me, even not rebalance yet, I like servant’s heal more than bish. I rarely use bright heal in pt farm, dont know how about others. One thing I’m sure that I love to use bright heal but only when solo.
For solo boss, nemesis is better than sweep bloom I think, but with one hit mobs, use sweep bloom better. Stronger or not idk, maybe cant compare, bish has buff matk, while servant increase large matk via soul connect. Once I tested servant’s aoe could reach 80k dmg, of course already broke xtal at second slot, didnt use all stat points cz pretended it just lv300 apos around lv 130 each stat, and that dmg without soul connect.
Im not glad to nerf old meta to make new one, but Im glad to nerf old meta to make various types of pt farm. What I hope is farm boss wont be hard after rebalance, Im already tired of Iruna’s economy. Nerf bish is not the problem, the problem is will both bish and servant can support as good as before nerfing resu,wont farm boss more difficult? Whatever, agree or disagree with rebalance, same as before, harder or easier, players will (have to) get used to it.
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Post by bikini on Mar 11, 2018 12:14:12 GMT
nemesis is better on damage because formula is matack multiplier x9, servant is i think x3.5matack and x3atack, and bish punish increase more.
I use bright heal specially cure poison. i saw 20k or poison somethimes.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 11, 2018 12:41:05 GMT
Im pretty sure boss farm will be easier after rebalance (especially because boss instant death nerf). I hope we will not see (or at least rarely see) unavoidable high damage from boss in future.
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Mar 11, 2018 13:27:03 GMT
Unless I missed something I don't see any confirmed instant death nerfs aside from the one to the critical and freeze instant death combo...
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 11, 2018 14:56:08 GMT
nemesis is better on damage because formula is matack multiplier x9, servant is i think x3.5matack and x3atack, and bish punish increase more. I use bright heal specially cure poison. i saw 20k or poison somethimes. 5x matk 3.5k atk
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 11, 2018 15:13:19 GMT
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Post by Serena on Mar 11, 2018 15:24:56 GMT
nemesis is better on damage because formula is matack multiplier x9, servant is i think x3.5matack and x3atack, and bish punish increase more. I use bright heal specially cure poison. i saw 20k or poison somethimes. Oh sorry, I compared 2 skills when lv <320 cz I think not all bish in iruna reach over 320 so I didnt count punish skill. Lv2 of sweep bloom is x3.5atk x5matk and physic part of sweep bloom is increased by crt and crit dmg%. after lv 320, yes of course, sweep bloom cant compare with nemesis, especially with litch and if use max purple lines nemesis easily to stun enemies each 3 or 4 hits, really good for grinding at 3i.
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Post by pingrek on Mar 11, 2018 15:51:16 GMT
nemesis is better on damage because formula is matack multiplier x9, servant is i think x3.5matack and x3atack, and bish punish increase more. I use bright heal specially cure poison. i saw 20k or poison somethimes. Oh sorry, I compared 2 skills when lv <320 cz I think not all bish in iruna reach over 320 so I didnt count punish skill. Lv2 of sweep bloom is x3.5atk x5matk and physic part of sweep bloom is increased by crt and crit dmg%. after lv 320, yes of course, sweep bloom cant compare with nemesis, especially with litch and if use max purple lines nemesis easily to stun enemies each 3 or 4 hits, really good for grinding at 3i. What's the use of purple lines for nemesis since I'm pretty sure the ailments aren't affected by autoskill or crit rate but rather having punish at 100% gives you a good boost to ailment rate, and sweep can still get to some pretty decent damage if using a throwing weapon or maybe even the staff petal scream since those will help boost atk and matk and then depending on xtals used can be a pretty good regular mob farmer since it's range at skill lvl2 is said to be close to hw earthquake
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Post by Undyne on Mar 11, 2018 15:54:30 GMT
Monks getting a large buff from what it seems xD even if its just to cover for the neutering of the Crt Dmg classes, still excited. Claw mastery seriously needed a buff, its barely noticible as is, and now chakra builds seem to be taking the throne back, need to wait and see how much chakras getting buffed but this is promising.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Mar 11, 2018 16:04:03 GMT
Monks getting a large buff from what it seems xD even if its just to cover for the neutering of the Crt Dmg classes, still excited. Claw mastery seriously needed a buff, its barely noticible as is, and now chakra builds seem to be taking the throne back, need to wait and see how much chakras getting buffed but this is promising. Yeah There is a probability that Chakra Lv.4+ might increase ATK by 2. If it increases ATK2 on 1INT then I think Chakra Monk build will be the mainstream build again! But also, the S-Type Monks will start to decrease too. Lentus is nerfed but still awesome as is. Just we won't be able to spam Lentus-ing (Monk version of Resurrection). But overall the adjustment is great!
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Mar 11, 2018 16:11:26 GMT
Well they said they are adjusting the chakra atk bonus to be same as if using throw- so just compare throw chakra vs claw chakra etc and you'll see what the new bonus will be minus the little extra attack they also said they are adding unless I misunderstood
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 11, 2018 16:18:57 GMT
Oh sorry, I compared 2 skills when lv <320 cz I think not all bish in iruna reach over 320 so I didnt count punish skill. Lv2 of sweep bloom is x3.5atk x5matk and physic part of sweep bloom is increased by crt and crit dmg%. after lv 320, yes of course, sweep bloom cant compare with nemesis, especially with litch and if use max purple lines nemesis easily to stun enemies each 3 or 4 hits, really good for grinding at 3i. What's the use of purple lines for nemesis since I'm pretty sure the ailments aren't affected by autoskill or crit rate but rather having punish at 100% gives you a good boost to ailment rate, and sweep can still get to some pretty decent damage if using a throwing weapon or maybe even the staff petal scream since those will help boost atk and matk and then depending on xtals used can be a pretty good regular mob farmer since it's range at skill lvl2 is said to be close to hw earthquake its bigger then earth quake and has a 360 range pretty dope and its is not effected by crt as far as i know unless u have hide atk
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Post by Serena on Mar 11, 2018 16:25:16 GMT
Oh sorry, I compared 2 skills when lv <320 cz I think not all bish in iruna reach over 320 so I didnt count punish skill. Lv2 of sweep bloom is x3.5atk x5matk and physic part of sweep bloom is increased by crt and crit dmg%. after lv 320, yes of course, sweep bloom cant compare with nemesis, especially with litch and if use max purple lines nemesis easily to stun enemies each 3 or 4 hits, really good for grinding at 3i. What's the use of purple lines for nemesis since I'm pretty sure the ailments aren't affected by autoskill or crit rate but rather having punish at 100% gives you a good boost to ailment rate, and sweep can still get to some pretty decent damage if using a throwing weapon or maybe even the staff petal scream since those will help boost atk and matk and then depending on xtals used can be a pretty good regular mob farmer since it's range at skill lvl2 is said to be close to hw earthquake Not many ailment skills are the same. Im sure that punish not affect it, I got it long time ago and saw nothing different. But when I got page 2 I decided to make water counter, build max purple instead cyan I usually stun enemies at 2nd hit, sometimes need 3 or 4 hits, rarely need more than 6 hits for stun. That’s really annoy for counter set, seems my enemies always get stun. But it made me wonder if autoskill affect it or not, I changed back to page 1 with cyan lines and same as I guessed, like before, hard to see enemies get stun. Of course I changed pages many times to make it sure. I already tried it on my monk too but autoskill not affect on bash skill.
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