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Post by Maxwello on Mar 3, 2018 17:52:16 GMT
Quote from 8th ______________________ however in the main world, most players already have their status points allocated for a physical type _________________________ That is amusing. Everyone has their stats allocated lol Also no chance for any claw ninjas to comment as there is not a choice for that I don't think. There are a lot more ninja than minstrel right? I'm not complaining tbh I don't really care at this point just seems like the main proposed nerf doesn't get a chance to test and comment. I'm not sure i get your point about claw nins? To be honest I don't think I have one other than that I can't log onto the test server and choose claw ninja and see how the changes affect my build as it's not on offer. Therefore an opinion on the adjustment can't be forwarded and cannot be taken into account.
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 3, 2018 19:18:54 GMT
I'm not sure i get your point about claw nins? To be honest I don't think I have one other than that I can't log onto the test server and choose claw ninja and see how the changes affect my build as it's not on offer. Therefore an opinion on the adjustment can't be forwarded and cannot be taken into account. But i mean ninja's skills changes (not implemented yet so you couldnt test anyway :/) aren't exclusive to claw ones o.o sk, magic, claw and bows are gonna have that clone nerf in the face...
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Post by Maxwello on Mar 3, 2018 20:15:30 GMT
To be honest I don't think I have one other than that I can't log onto the test server and choose claw ninja and see how the changes affect my build as it's not on offer. Therefore an opinion on the adjustment can't be forwarded and cannot be taken into account. But i mean ninja's skills changes (not implemented yet so you couldnt test anyway :/) aren't exclusive to claw ones o.o sk, magic, claw and bows are gonna have that clone nerf in the face... Yes but if I only use claw in iruna it doesn't help to test changes with a throwing weapon especially damages. As a throw or rod using magic ninja sk or otherwise you have a benefit of a reasonably direct comparison. When do the ninja changes that were announced today go into use on the test server by the way?
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 3, 2018 20:57:36 GMT
But i mean ninja's skills changes (not implemented yet so you couldnt test anyway :/) aren't exclusive to claw ones o.o sk, magic, claw and bows are gonna have that clone nerf in the face... Yes but if I only use claw in iruna it doesn't help to test changes with a throwing weapon especially damages. As a throw or rod using magic ninja sk or otherwise you have a benefit of a reasonably direct comparison. When do the ninja changes that were announced today go into use on the test server by the way? well...yes it does? o__o i mean, test the changes with a typical throwing build, and the same changes will be applied if you use claws, i mean, the only skill you' use with clas would be DoC but it doesnt directly change so... And idk, my guess is at next update? ><
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 3, 2018 22:05:02 GMT
Ryukengan Maxwello Makina Yuki from what i understood ._.
Yang (translated as "Sutra" by google trans) -Own magic power rises (matk or magic skill dmgs) as well as "alchemy". Guess its some translation mistake ·When using Yang, effect named "Yosuke" activated and put clones to zero. ·Apparently enhances Phantom flame to a certain point i didnt understand ("If you are acquiring the skill "Kyoto", you will receive the maximum level of "iglies" you are acquiring.". Kyoto, Igilites and Uchida are all PF translations gone wrong lol) · When reusing the skill, effects are canceled. · If the effect "Shade" was on (given by Yin) it'll be canceled as well (thx cp'n obvious)
Yin (translated as Seonjutsu shade) -Effectiveness of clones rises · When using Yin, effect named "shade" activated and gives 3 clones. · 1000 HP heal. · MaxHP+1000, AVD+ 10%. · Same Phantom flame boost...
All magic jutsus can proc ailments only on Yang mode. All ailments last 15 seconds.
Phantom flame: boosts swift shadow even further in Yin mode
Swift shadow: global activation rate modified, activation rate increased in Yin mode
Silent killing: Damage formula modified, changed the "critical only occurs w/throw" setting into "critical only occurs in Yin mode" (EEHHHH? WHAAAAA?? Can other weaps crit too now?! QAQ)
Bunshin no jutsu: · Changed the effect from "cancel an enemy hit' to "cancel an enemy's hit by chance" · Adjust the maximum number of clones to 1 Adjustments · in Yin mode, bunshin makes 3 clones · when paralyzed, max number of clones is the normal amount -1 (which means you can't make any if not in Yin mode)
Desperate move: · If current HP<10% and clones are 2 or less, adds 1 clone. (i hope i got that right and that it doesnt actually cut clones to 1 ._.?) · In Yin mode, adds 3 clones. (i hope i got ta · Sth about paralysis ("It is not subject to this effect if he / she is a state abnormality "paralysis"." Which effect? the Yin part? ._.)
Dance of clones: Wtf? ._______________. · Continue effect Increase the damage at the time of use while 0 continuation effect "Phantom flame" and continuation effect "shade". Cancel the continuation effect "Phantom flame". Is explosion only usable while shade is on? (Yin buff)
It's funny how Yin and Yang got inverted compared to the armors x) ALSO Magic ninjas are kinda forced to use domination now, because we can only get 3 clones that way in Yang mode. Why staying in Yang mode you'll ask? Well, because if in Yin mode, ailments don't proc .__________. Guess if u want to stay safe, you just spam either Domi or build up heaven and earth in yin mode........
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Post by Makina Yuki on Mar 3, 2018 23:17:39 GMT
Dragsbro Make Magic Ninja Great Again!! Hahaha xD Sk max hit is 1 time if you use bunshin only right? So sk combo will be es>domi>sk and spam sk till you lose all clone. Btw, if sk can proc without throw, I want try magic sword sk or rod sk build
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 4, 2018 0:01:02 GMT
Dragsbro Make Magic Ninja Great Again!! Hahaha xD Sk max hit is 1 time if you use bunshin only right? So sk combo will be es>domi>sk and spam sk till you lose all clone. Btw, if sk can proc without throw, I want try magic sword sk or rod sk build SK combo will still be Bunshin>SK, because Bunshin still makes 3 clones in Yin mode. (and SK crits only in Yin mode)
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Post by Maxwello on Mar 4, 2018 1:13:52 GMT
Yes but if I only use claw in iruna it doesn't help to test changes with a throwing weapon especially damages. As a throw or rod using magic ninja sk or otherwise you have a benefit of a reasonably direct comparison. When do the ninja changes that were announced today go into use on the test server by the way? well...yes it does? o__o i mean, test the changes with a typical throwing build, and the same changes will be applied if you use claws, i mean, the only skill you' use with clas would be DoC but it doesnt directly change so... And idk, my guess is at next update? >< They could have stuck in a Sauro Fang l5 2s on a ninja... That is all my point boils down to I spose And ye doc. Phantom flame. Makibishi and the all important auto attack all I assumed would be affected by the overall crt and elemental formula change and some of the ninja changes. But I'm not bothered this is just how I feel about it. About testing with throwing.... No... Cos its different stats adding atk. Different atspd.. To me its completely different gameplay. I'd like to put my current build and stats in for a test but I can't but it's OK. I'm perfectly happy that you disagree and even that my point is completely invalid to you. I don't care. Thanks dragsbro.
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 4, 2018 2:07:41 GMT
Maxwello you can switch to monk, then I think if you change your equips (or somebody holds them for you) you could switch to ninja and have the monk stuff. This should feel more similar to your ninja. Also you can buy some equips, like Ira, Sauro Fang and many popular xtals from Chat. I think claw ninja is not a common build nowadays, that's why they didn't make that option available. Same with spec bow sniper or Snead claw bishop.
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 4, 2018 2:59:01 GMT
well...yes it does? o__o i mean, test the changes with a typical throwing build, and the same changes will be applied if you use claws, i mean, the only skill you' use with clas would be DoC but it doesnt directly change so... And idk, my guess is at next update? >< They could have stuck in a Sauro Fang l5 2s on a ninja... That is all my point boils down to I spose And ye doc. Phantom flame. Makibishi and the all important auto attack all I assumed would be affected by the overall crt and elemental formula change and some of the ninja changes. But I'm not bothered this is just how I feel about it. About testing with throwing.... No... Cos its different stats adding atk. Different atspd.. To me its completely different gameplay. I'd like to put my current build and stats in for a test but I can't but it's OK. I'm perfectly happy that you disagree and even that my point is completely invalid to you. I don't care. Thanks dragsbro. Well i was about to propose sth to you but nightbreeze did already ^^ but what i don't understand is, like... I understand you want to try the skills change, but for example, makibishi doesn't change... Unless u just wanna try w/claw which i don't have to argue about xD just go monk first, you should have a way to buy or get a 2nd weap to transfer ^^ But about the overall crt dmg formula like u said...we already have the formula if you really don't manage to go on ninja w/claws ^^" hope u can attain ur goal
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Post by Maxwello on Mar 4, 2018 11:11:26 GMT
Thank you both. I wasn't sure if trade was possible on test server to be honest. That's a nice suggestion that I had only partially considered. Yes I'm sticking with my build.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 7, 2018 5:08:33 GMT
Could someone make a video on ninja changes ?
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 7, 2018 5:42:51 GMT
Could someone make a video on ninja changes ? I will asap
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Post by Done~with~forums on Mar 7, 2018 5:59:46 GMT
Could someone make a video on ninja changes ? I will asap thanks i cant tell if that was sarcasm or a dem u right lol
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 7, 2018 6:08:34 GMT
thanks i cant tell if that was sarcasm or a dem u right lol no sacarsm, im just waiting for the link to be updated in the thread by Yukina pwp but ill probably be asleep when it'lll be done
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