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Post by pingrek on Dec 7, 2017 17:19:26 GMT
I agree that 100% magic overheat gauge thing is one of most annoying ench feature ._. However, same case is same with hw since I always see hw need either bander set, zero set, or elemental magic set. Zero set need -mp% gear (for solo), change bander set to zero set when bander proc, that means you need some knowledge to use it, same case with ench skills. As for etincelle, see 🔷Raichant🔷 video. He use fire set (including etincelle) and still able kill s350 in fast mode (also some other non famous ench weapon). So etincelle not mediocre weapon actually. U use bandersnatch, u see assault buff, u press 0 ray, its not really complicated lol Also im sure he used eticelle with other expensive gear to melt s350, and ench with the starter gears u stated will not melt s350 No need to further debate since op choose ench. Etincelle is a relatively good starter sword for enchanter since it has a decently strong auto, and it's cheap, but yeah both classes can be as complex or as basic as you want it's up to the player if they want to make multiple sets that they switch to or if they make a somewhat Jack of all trades gear set so both of you make good points about the others class
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Post by 🔷Raichant🔷 on Dec 8, 2017 10:22:12 GMT
I agree that 100% magic overheat gauge thing is one of most annoying ench feature ._. However, same case is same with hw since I always see hw need either bander set, zero set, or elemental magic set. Zero set need -mp% gear (for solo), change bander set to zero set when bander proc, that means you need some knowledge to use it, same case with ench skills. As for etincelle, see 🔷Raichant🔷 video. He use fire set (including etincelle) and still able kill s350 in fast mode (also some other non famous ench weapon). So etincelle not mediocre weapon actually. Yes thats the main reason i make that vid(and dont forget to like and sub xD)
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Post by 🔷Raichant🔷 on Dec 8, 2017 10:35:09 GMT
I agree that 100% magic overheat gauge thing is one of most annoying ench feature ._. However, same case is same with hw since I always see hw need either bander set, zero set, or elemental magic set. Zero set need -mp% gear (for solo), change bander set to zero set when bander proc, that means you need some knowledge to use it, same case with ench skills. As for etincelle, see 🔷Raichant🔷 video. He use fire set (including etincelle) and still able kill s350 in fast mode (also some other non famous ench weapon). So etincelle not mediocre weapon actually. U use bandersnatch, u see assault buff, u press 0 ray, its not really complicated lol Also im sure he used eticelle with other expensive gear to melt s350, and ench with the starter gears u stated will not melt s350 No need to further debate since op choose ench. Even if a newbie use fire set like me he/she wont be able to fight s350. This is not just equip but lv as well. Also why a stater ench with stater equip would try to fight s350 ?o.o
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Post by nic123 on Dec 8, 2017 16:22:17 GMT
U use bandersnatch, u see assault buff, u press 0 ray, its not really complicated lol Also im sure he used eticelle with other expensive gear to melt s350, and ench with the starter gears u stated will not melt s350 No need to further debate since op choose ench. Even if a newbie use fire set like me he/she wont be able to fight s350. This is not just equip but lv as well. Also why a stater ench with stater equip would try to fight s350 ?o.o A level 355, with etincelle, strugler and magia hood, no xtals will not solo s350 in 10second or less, like the ench i saw on youtube... thats all i said, nothing more, nothing less
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Post by Makina Yuki on Dec 8, 2017 17:05:30 GMT
nic123 what raichant means that you will never use basic gear to solo s350, you dont want use basic gear to solo s350 is it? (either as ench, hw, or other class).
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Post by nic123 on Dec 8, 2017 20:11:23 GMT
Nvm guys.... All my point was saying was that to melt bosses as fast as the ench i saw
U need costly equips I think u guys took me to literal, an average level 355 ench, wouldnt kill sauro as fast or if at all is all i meant.
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Post by pingrek on Dec 8, 2017 20:44:59 GMT
Nvm guys.... All my point was saying was that to melt bosses as fast as the ench i saw U need costly equips I think u guys took me to literal, an average level 355 ench, wouldnt kill sauro as fast or if at all is all i meant. Well to be the best every class needs expensive equips but you don't need the absolute most expensive stuff to be good
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Post by bikini on Dec 10, 2017 11:39:25 GMT
u can buff grigori at cutscenes, normally are 10 secs or more xD. If die in boss it a crap. Remember hw zero in full damage pt can deal 1M per sec or more, assault buff give 5 sec avoid almost all bosses hits.
Also there are survival set for all jobs. Hw with boo ini, uni2 and vatendeth al got decent resist.
But ench got more Hp and stone skin help much.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Dec 10, 2017 14:20:59 GMT
u can buff grigori at cutscenes, normally are 10 secs or more xD. If die in boss it a crap. Remember hw zero in full damage pt can deal 1M per sec or more, assault buff give 5 sec avoid almost all bosses hits. Also there are survival set for all jobs. Hw with boo ini, uni2 and vatendeth al got decent resist. But ench got more Hp and stone skin help much. Unless boss has buff delete skills .-. Buff delete skill is very hurt for Hw. Doesnt mean that ench has advantage against buff delete boss, buff delete is hurt for ench too. Ench need around 8-10 sec to rebuff (assuming you use all ench buff and qadal+limit break combo).
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Post by nic123 on Dec 11, 2017 3:38:11 GMT
u can buff grigori at cutscenes, normally are 10 secs or more xD. If die in boss it a crap. Remember hw zero in full damage pt can deal 1M per sec or more, assault buff give 5 sec avoid almost all bosses hits. Also there are survival set for all jobs. Hw with boo ini, uni2 and vatendeth al got decent resist. But ench got more Hp and stone skin help much. Unless boss has buff delete skills .-. Buff delete skill is very hurt for Hw. Doesnt mean that ench has advantage against buff delete boss, buff delete is hurt for ench too. Ench need around 8-10 sec to rebuff (assuming you use all ench buff and qadal+limit break combo). Buff delete hurts any class who uses buffs Just pray the boss ench is farming doesent debuff+ debuff autoskill, wol comes to mind
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Post by Makina Yuki on Dec 11, 2017 3:51:55 GMT
nic123 Also skill debuff like fiona does, it hurt ench dps x.x
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Post by nic123 on Dec 11, 2017 13:44:37 GMT
nic123 Also skill debuff like fiona does, it hurt ench dps x.x If u have bish with you,they can remove the debuff with priere I remember doing that while back
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Post by Makina Yuki on Dec 11, 2017 13:47:32 GMT
nic123 Also skill debuff like fiona does, it hurt ench dps x.x If u have bish with you,they can remove the debuff with priere I remember doing that while back I mean fiona can make ench enchant weapon useless because she has "skill debuff" which overwrite enchanter enchant weapon "skill buff". Ench can dealt autoskill damage twice (or more) than its normal damage with enchant weapon skill, this is one reason why ench can do over 100k autoskill damage. Without it, ench dps is bellow average. Seriously, fiona isnt boss for ench unless you had high magic blade damage ps. Is priere can avoid skill debuff? if I remember it has magical power buff is it?
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Post by nic123 on Dec 11, 2017 14:06:00 GMT
If u have bish with you,they can remove the debuff with priere I remember doing that while back I mean fiona can make ench enchant weapon useless because she has "skill debuff" which overwrite enchanter enchant weapon "skill buff". Ench can dealt autoskill damage twice (or more) than its normal damage with enchant weapon skill, this is one reason why ench can do over 100k autoskill damage. Without it, ench dps is bellow average. Seriously, fiona isnt boss for ench unless you had high magic blade damage ps. Is priere can avoid skill debuff? if I remember it has magical power buff is it? Ohhh nvm Fiona has magical attack debuff, i used to use my bish ti rebuff magical attack with priere, i didnt jnow she had a "skill debuff" debuff
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Post by Makina Yuki on Dec 13, 2017 21:08:50 GMT
Correction for my post before that says fiona isnt for ench. Just try to solo her again (last year I just lv280 ench) and she is easy for ench actually as long as you had enough level eventhough she has skill debuff. She can be killed in 5-15 sec during special status condition.
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