♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 4, 2017 18:15:14 GMT
problem when comparing hw and ench is the pt-solo problem
as an ench its very hard to get into pt farms like s350/s400/ouvel/latest bosses so ull end up soloing everything
while hw both got the option of pt and solo farm(either with the most popular cap resist set or the Eva type(this one I'm personally using 1k Eva with 1 agi xD)
although its not necessarily true for ench if u can't find a pt make one ^^
about the laggy phone ...its gonna be a problem with zero hw since ur swapping gear sets alot (and u only have 5 sec of assault time In order to spam 2-3 zero) lags the mortal enemy of hw xD (in my case I can't do any pt farm -- gears switches too late specially at full pt -- only when I'm on pt of 3 ppl -- duoing with bish is not an issue though)
better go ench then there's also the pro way of increasing ur. dmg further (increased delay for special status/matk up (kutune)/spellboost(auto or extra skill) and dish out some great dmg ..and if u can get dual blow as well *_*
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Makina Yuki
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 4, 2017 18:21:00 GMT
Little bit off topic: Hw in pt: some times forced to be dps & tank at same time, but u know its hard to achive it (I feel this problem when I farm pt with my sk)
Ench in pt: not welcomed in pt, eventhough they can become dps & tank at same time (need alive and do consistent damage which is possible for ench), they can do that even at s400 or mamonea which can easily ignore sk/hw and attack mins or bish in pt if they (sk/hw) role is tank
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Post by 『Akame』 on Nov 4, 2017 19:00:51 GMT
Well... I guess I'm going ench then xD (yay~ a new member of the ench population haha xD) Thanks to all of your advices If not for all of you I would have spent 1 day losing my mind debating xD
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Post by Kijimu Party on Nov 4, 2017 20:05:10 GMT
Just make both. They're both very fun.
Enchanters: Magic Knight High Wizard: Master of Great Magic
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 5, 2017 4:46:22 GMT
or if u can hold on ---
magic ninjas
i mean magic not sk
those new skills just looks so darn awesome
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Post by rizen on Nov 11, 2017 9:19:16 GMT
As an ench, i get parties everytime I farm. I either get pt by selling my self(telling my dmg, capabilities, and begging to try ench as dps XD) o I make the party myself which works out just fine. LFP ENCH dps try me ~
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Makina Yuki
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 11, 2017 14:44:50 GMT
Farming iniliba in party as enchanter just moment ago with bish & mins. Not even need 20 sec per run including rebuff haha.
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 11, 2017 15:25:58 GMT
^^ Eva type hw can solo run iniliba as well ^^less 20 sec for me as a solo as well (kinda low dmg cause I sacrificed a lot of matk to hit 780 Eva unbuffed) 9 zero for me to take down iniliba at 550k dmg (with my current set I can spew out 4 zeros solo ^^) rarely die unless I forgot to rebuff mirage after each run xD ..that annoying rate cut tbolt atk of iniliba 1 shots me with no mirage buff but other than I just evades 95% of his atks ^^)on another note tried duo with another hw friend who is using a resist set and each run takes 10 sec less xD (kinda fun trying to steal the kill from each other)
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 11, 2017 16:03:43 GMT
♪Sumire I saw many hw solo iniliba so its possible. However pt always different league since you dont need worried about his stun, even I saw hw can 2 or maybe 3 shoot iniliba with zero ray in pt mode. Ench can reach same league as hw did in pt farm since they can do 300k-500k dps per auto attack (up to 1m against melee barrier), but unlike hw, ench can keep hate in party. But main drawback is ench need dual blow to achive fast kill.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 11, 2017 16:14:47 GMT
♪Sumire Btw you said you need less than 20 sec to solo iniliba, but you said you need 9 zero too kill him. I dont think you can spam 9 zero in 20 sec (or at least constant bander proc) since you need switch gear set or cast mana recharge. For my enchanter case, if I dont include re buff, limit break+qadal thingy, I need 15 sec-20 sec to kill iniliba in solo mode at level 330 (never solo farm him again since I reach lv330+ I solo farm grapa). But in pt case, since I dont need switch gear set, I can do 10 sec-15 sec to do iniliba without other dps class in pt (just bish & mins). Probably hw can do same if you dont recast grigori (since its sd is pain).
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 11, 2017 16:30:51 GMT
not counting the time with slight delay ^^ since I don't use drain 9 zero is max but can kill him in 2 assault since my dmg is kinda inconsistent 500-550-600-630k (650k with stun or dizzy) although it does take longer with assault not proccing at 1 bander (I usually click phrase right after I cast bander or the time the casting animation reached the point where it goes on cooldown (if unlucky might not proc assault but I'll still cast another bander without switching to mp set since my mp is still full) enabling me to cast all 4 zero my mp can give me , switch to mp set and use a t.rem then bander again ..btw even after 4 shots if I use bander snatch on zero set and successfully hits assault I can cast 1 more zero ^^ mp heal then cast 1 or 2 more before assault runs out)
anyways when everything works as it should be I can make do with less 20 sec ^^
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 11, 2017 16:33:36 GMT
↑↑ that feat is impossible on full pt though ..the lag is just too much for phrase to react fast
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 11, 2017 16:50:32 GMT
oh and yeah I agree with grigori ....that's why I make sure I don't die in any round rebuffing grigori adds another 10 sec of afk :v (already managed to bring down mirage to -1 sec) I tried another run just now (using blue candy bag dmg went up to 700k and the kill is much faster only needed 5-6 zeros
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Post by Shadorma on Dec 5, 2017 23:42:14 GMT
I'm currently a lv 221 HW and I have to agree with everything said above. HW does need a resistance set and the recommended one includes an Iniliba on each piece of equip. You have to be extremely rich to get this set. Still, I love playing HW. I love self-heal and being able to help in party. However, my next char will be an enchanter.
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Post by nic123 on Dec 6, 2017 0:11:49 GMT
Imho, As a starter friendly class, hw is the way to go
Enchanter honestly is complicated, as well as more fun tho I always loved seeing the autos proc, but hw is easier to cap, gear is easier to buy
Also if u wanna be really good, ench is definitely more expensive Gram fred and all other m swords (etincelle etc, idk em) Strug reup all ele autoskills Doggy ear reup all ele autos, faws for dmg Cgbs or javali s Auto abis Still needs resist set
As for hw Univ and tellas, 1 strug Sage reup and faws Magical s, skrs if rich Resist set
Also i think its easier to make spina as an aoe class
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