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Post by neophyte on Oct 24, 2017 15:04:21 GMT
So i have STR, CRT, n AGI sorted out. Now im torn between putting DEX or adding more VIT.
The thing with DEX is, RoR reduced DEX (-100 according to iruna-info?), so my dmg from monty will decrease as well. How far does DEX affect dizzy proc from astute? DEX affect astute dmg as well?
If i go DEXless, i can go for craft guide book for offensive set w/o penalty that RoR gives. Then i can pump more VIT.
Any suggestion?
Thanks
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Post by Famine on Oct 24, 2017 16:19:42 GMT
The 340 Gladi skill that will release soonish needs dex as the skill delay can not be reduced through gear. Only dex can make it fastest delay.
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Post by Kijimu Party on Oct 24, 2017 16:41:43 GMT
There is only one thing to do. Max out level and Apostolia. So you can max out 3 stats and still have pts for VIT/DEX.
If you are level 350, that's 1047 points. If you max out all Apostolia, that's 350 points.
Each stats can cap out at 256 + 175 = 431. You can have 431 STR, 431 CRT, 431 AGI, and 104 pts left over.
Or you could lower your AGI and add more points for VIT/DEX
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Post by Famine on Oct 24, 2017 16:49:08 GMT
There is only one thing to do. Max out level and Apostolia. So you can max out 3 stats and still have pts for VIT/DEX. If you are level 350, that's 1047 points. If you max out all Apostolia, that's 350 points. Each stats can cap out at 256 + 175 = 431. You can have 431 STR, 431 CRT, 431 AGI, and 104 pts left over. Or you could lower your AGI and add more points for VIT/DEX Gladi just needs 275 agi, anymore is a waste of points.
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Post by -rizal- on Oct 25, 2017 23:31:27 GMT
The 340 Gladi skill that will release soonish needs dex as the skill delay can not be reduced through gear. Only dex can make it fastest delay. How much dex is needed for that skill?
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Post by Famine on Oct 26, 2017 0:28:59 GMT
The 340 Gladi skill that will release soonish needs dex as the skill delay can not be reduced through gear. Only dex can make it fastest delay. How much dex is needed for that skill? 228 dex is needed according to this blog. Perhaps Yukina can confirm as he actually has this skill
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Post by Yukina on Oct 26, 2017 2:14:27 GMT
How much dex is needed for that skill? 228 dex is needed according to this blog. Perhaps Yukina can confirm as he actually has this skill I'm afraid I can't confirm that because I only have 180ish DEX. But, I can say it's safe to trust the information from the blog.
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Post by vincen on Oct 26, 2017 3:21:02 GMT
Sounds its going wrong 😂 its not like new skill only can reduce by dex but dex only reduce -1 sec on 228 dex,its mean u can reduce it with -delay on equipment or crystal
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Post by Eaysley on Oct 26, 2017 3:35:49 GMT
Dexless gladiator in action
I got everything at 1s. Huge HP @75k hp. Drawback is that damage is not as high vs dex (1 atk per Dex). High survivability (except cheating bosses like Sauro 400 with HP and MP delete+stun)
I was using my damage set there. At resist-myrica, I have 150k+ hp.
I prefer dexless but I might change, who knows.
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Post by neophyte on Oct 26, 2017 16:32:34 GMT
Dexless gladiator in action I got everything at 1s. Huge HP @75k hp. Drawback is that damage is not as high vs dex (1 atk per Dex). High survivability (except cheating bosses like Sauro 400 with HP and MP delete+stun) I was using my damage set there. At resist-myrica, I have 150k+ hp. I prefer dexless but I might change, who knows. I cant watch the video for some reason... What is the best add if im going dexless? Forcr helm+raton? How much difference is the damage between 256 DEX with DEXless? Im really considering DEXless since its more lenient on special gear selections. Thanks.
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Post by Ryukengan on Oct 26, 2017 17:43:05 GMT
neophyte Let's first take a look at the available status points. 360/2 = 180 180+256=436(status cap) 360*4 = 1440 (roughly maximum amount of status points available) The most optimal status distribution from a mathematical standpoint at level 360 for a Gladiator like Famine already hinted is: 436 STR, 436 CRT, 275 AGI, 228 DEX (if the blog is correct), 65 VIT. Why this is the optimal status allocation: STR and CRT are our main damage attributes, they have to be capped. 275 AGI is more than enough to farm the easier bosses and grind effectively with no downtime and grants us the maximum damage boost for sword tempest. More AGI is wasted as the more recent bosses will hit you either way, you would have to get close to cap AGI which ain't worth it since you won't gain any damage from it. 228 DEX as it seems mandatory for Valkyrie blade AND Valentia. 65 VIT for a bit higher HP. Why is VIT so low? Because Myrica Wristlet is the most efficient special equipment for Gladiator. Craft Guide Book's ATK boost is capped by your level, so you gain ~360 ATK at most which would translate into 120 STR. Myrica Wristlet gives you an effective 180 VIT, that's a 60 status point advantage at the mere cost of -25% rate cut which can be negated by abilities. The DEX will also help you have more skill delay, so you can free up quick cool from your abilities anyway. You could even argue for the case of going even less VIT and get DEX up to 256, like this player does it and as you can see you can still achieve major tankiness with the right gear. (though tankiness shouldn't be a problem if you abuse the cursed bangle trick as long as you don't lose HP way too quickly which shouldn't happen anyway)
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Post by Eaysley on Oct 26, 2017 22:31:19 GMT
Dexless gladiator in action I got everything at 1s. Huge HP @75k hp. Drawback is that damage is not as high vs dex (1 atk per Dex). High survivability (except cheating bosses like Sauro 400 with HP and MP delete+stun) I was using my damage set there. At resist-myrica, I have 150k+ hp. I prefer dexless but I might change, who knows. I cant watch the video for some reason... What is the best add if im going dexless? Forcr helm+raton? How much difference is the damage between 256 DEX with DEXless? Im really considering DEXless since its more lenient on special gear selections. Thanks. 1) In terms of options, there aren't many viable options. Force Helm offers both resist and damage. 2) 256 base atk with sword Dexless seems to be very unpopular but I really prefer huge amounts of HP. I never play in a party and wear Jar a lot. Damage differences can't be more important than soloing for me. Again, It's all about play style. For grinding, I have a slotted CGB to compensate the lost damage. Currently, it gives the highest atk without any negatives.
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Post by Famine on Oct 27, 2017 0:09:50 GMT
Sounds its going wrong 😂 its not like new skill only can reduce by dex but dex only reduce -1 sec on 228 dex,its mean u can reduce it with -delay on equipment or crystal Only dex reduces delay.
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Post by vincen on Oct 27, 2017 5:20:30 GMT
Sounds its going wrong 😂 its not like new skill only can reduce by dex but dex only reduce -1 sec on 228 dex,its mean u can reduce it with -delay on equipment or crystal Only dex reduces delay. 😂😂😂 just watch this vid She only had around 180 dex
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Post by Ryukengan on Oct 27, 2017 5:29:53 GMT
vincen Yes, watch the exact same video you posted which proves you wrong.. You can see a large delay when he activates the new buff. (It's the buff that grants him 100% tempest gauge)
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