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Post by ruebear on Oct 15, 2017 3:22:09 GMT
Hey as the title says, has anyone experimented with a dmg set for a support Minstrel?
I've experimented before with nub gear and I did decently okay, and was able to solo some bosses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 6:52:39 GMT
What is your stat for support Minstrel since I don't know the exact definition of support minstrel. For me any minstrel can be a support minstrel However if you want to utilize Dragonewt, CRIT must be in stat. The rest of the stat is up to your weapon knowledge with STR/DEX/CRIT most versatile for support and dps build, AGI/DEX/CRIT for semi solo,support and dps build.
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Post by ruebear on Oct 15, 2017 16:03:57 GMT
What is your stat for support Minstrel since I don't know the exact definition of support minstrel. For me any minstrel can be a support minstrel However if you want to utilize Dragonewt, CRIT must be in stat. The rest of the stat is up to your weapon knowledge with STR/DEX/CRIT most versatile for support and dps build, AGI/DEX/CRIT for semi solo,support and dps build. Oh sorry let me clarify lol. Int>Dex>Vit build as a support Minstrel
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 15, 2017 16:23:09 GMT
Hi!! ruebear , you changed from HW/Bishop/Servant... Right?
Not that pro like Ninty,Aizurin, MagicChi, Acedia, Emi, AizenSou (omg I can tell some more names of pro mins ) But I have a unique plan in my mind. Correct me please
The Magic Autoskill Type You will be using Magic Autoskills, yes. Since you already know Passion song increases ASPD, even with 1AGI you got tons of ASPD. You'll be using that as your AGI. You will have to use Magic Autoskills to kill. And it got 3 benifits :
1)You can fully optimize your INT DEX and VIT 2)You can get a cutting attack interval equipment 3)You'll use the MATK given by INT
Now, equipment :
Weapon - Anything that fits your playstyle. (But not claws or Bows) But has MATK or not, it has to have Autoskill.
Armor : You better use struggler . Get a Auto on Crysta
Additonal : Use a Auto. Or a Interval cut
Special : Same here. Just use auto if you got interval already. Or use interval if you got auto already on add
Hope it helps!
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Post by ruebear on Oct 15, 2017 16:31:39 GMT
Pretty interesting set you have there. What I used was a a semi pally gear set to boost attack from vit and dex.
Hadn't thought of using magic attack.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 15, 2017 16:54:57 GMT
Pretty interesting set you have there. What I used was a a semi pally gear set to boost attack from vit and dex. Hadn't thought of using magic attack. Thanks XD. Has been thinking about this set for a week. Didn't know where to post. Your thread let me post it xD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:53:41 GMT
Oh sorry let me clarify lol. Int>Dex>Vit build as a support Minstrel I see. Well as mention by 'AhSaN' magic autoskills type is a good build that benefits your stat It is very rare to see magic minstrel on action tbh. I only see one video of JP player playing as magic minstrel which are kinda unique imo I not really knowledgeable on magic equip since I don't own any decent magic classes. However you may decide on getting some equip that may benefits Alchemy build if you planning to change into one. Or You can copy some magic build from enchanter as well since they are the best example of magic autoskill firework and of course if you planning to be magic minstrel for life time some equip such Queen of the Night are you best bet for your damage set.
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Oct 17, 2017 8:53:53 GMT
i recommend using magic bow for range magic auto atk (play safe purpose for pt mode) n u can switch to magic sword melee auto (for tank dmg/solo)
still require lots of potions wild dance/autoskill abi etc.
gimme videos in future xD
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Post by ruebear on Oct 24, 2017 2:46:41 GMT
Honestly I tried messing around with a magic set and it's just awful.
So I don't know how a Magic Auto set would work. You'de need like 4-5k matk to even do some good dmg.
I had like 2.5k matk buffed, and did only 4k with Sonic Boom.
Also I'm kind of conflicted with a Magic Auto set. Wouldn't you want to use Emido for the Auto rather than Struggler? You'de get more procs if you did a Emido/Sage Hat combo, and wouldn't need to worry about trying to find other equips to proc magic attack by auto.
Now keep in mind, I guess 100 Vit is fine for Minstrel, and more hp hurts than helps. So having 175 Vit would roughly bring you close to 20k maxhp and around 4k hp per song you sing. But then again if you're soloing, I guess 175 or more would be beneficial.
Also does anyone know if Quick Gauntlet has been released yet? Has good stats for a magic auto set.
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Post by pingrek on Oct 24, 2017 3:03:06 GMT
Honestly I tried messing around with a magic set and it's just awful. So I don't know how a Magic Auto set would work. You'de need like 4-5k matk to even do some good dmg. I had like 2.5k matk buffed, and did only 4k with Sonic Boom. Also I'm kind of conflicted with a Magic Auto set. Wouldn't you want to use Emido for the Auto rather than Struggler? You'de get more procs if you did a Emido/Sage Hat combo, and wouldn't need to worry about trying to find other equips to proc magic attack by auto. Now keep in mind, I guess 100 Vit is fine for Minstrel, and more hp hurts than helps. So having 175 Vit would roughly bring you close to 20k maxhp and around 4k hp per song you sing. But then again if you're soloing, I guess 175 or more would be beneficial. Also does anyone know if Quick Gauntlet has been released yet? Has good stats for a magic auto set. The reason for struggler is emido has that nasty -magic resistance meaning more damage taken from magic attacks, so in all reality while struggler would give more matk I personally would think bellow of order would possibly be the better choice since you still can get some decent matk plus it has melee and magic resistance for taking less damage
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Oct 24, 2017 12:08:23 GMT
Hey again ruebear As Pingrek said, I said Struggler because it would add MATK by VIT and so far it is the best equip for this kind of actions. And, you'll need to use Spell Boost and Wisdom song to increase your MATK to required stage. Your apostiolia should be focused on Autoskill type. You can add Autoskill +% on Apostiolia and Equipments. And all the available equipments should have a strong autoskill.
Around 4-5k MATK will give you good damage. It isn't harder to reach that level using INT, Spell Boost, Wisdom song and some MATK equipment. Is it?
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Post by aikaenchantress on Oct 24, 2017 21:45:49 GMT
I feel what people are forgetting is your elemental factors here. I ptd with a m.atk auto mins just the other day. I believe they were around 280ish but I can't remember and each of their procs were about 30-40k w/ a dark set at yarde. I'd assume they had auto ☆abi and spellburst ☆abi From what I saw the set was
Gram◇ fredico/gerust (just a guess because best for for such a set) *Beyond here just a guess due to them wearing avas* Strug up◇ dajart FAW◇ fredrico/gerust (again just a guess) CGB◇ dajart
This would be optimal for grinding yarde seeing as it is all dark m.atk autos allowing for highest dps output.
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Post by aikaenchantress on Oct 24, 2017 21:56:08 GMT
Honestly I tried messing around with a magic set and it's just awful. So I don't know how a Magic Auto set would work. You'de need like 4-5k matk to even do some good dmg. I had like 2.5k matk buffed, and did only 4k with Sonic Boom. Also I'm kind of conflicted with a Magic Auto set. Wouldn't you want to use Emido for the Auto rather than Struggler? You'de get more procs if you did a Emido/Sage Hat combo, and wouldn't need to worry about trying to find other equips to proc magic attack by auto. Now keep in mind, I guess 100 Vit is fine for Minstrel, and more hp hurts than helps. So having 175 Vit would roughly bring you close to 20k maxhp and around 4k hp per song you sing. But then again if you're soloing, I guess 175 or more would be beneficial. Also does anyone know if Quick Gauntlet has been released yet? Has good stats for a magic auto set. The reason for struggler is emido has that nasty -magic resistance meaning more damage taken from magic attacks, so in all reality while struggler would give more matk I personally would think bellow of order would possibly be the better choice since you still can get some decent matk plus it has melee and magic resistance for taking less damage Also on my last point strig adds 400 m.atk if vit is above 170 with m.weapons other bow and claw
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Post by pingrek on Oct 24, 2017 22:29:52 GMT
The reason for struggler is emido has that nasty -magic resistance meaning more damage taken from magic attacks, so in all reality while struggler would give more matk I personally would think bellow of order would possibly be the better choice since you still can get some decent matk plus it has melee and magic resistance for taking less damage Also on my last point strig adds 400 m.atk if vit is above 170 with m.weapons other bow and claw Struggler adds around 700 matk if you have the proper vit to level ratio and your not using claw or bow, while bellow is 1matk per int with any weapon so around 430 matk if your level cap and have max int level in apos, so struggler will give more damage but bellow is more defensive
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Post by aikaenchantress on Oct 24, 2017 23:34:33 GMT
Also on my last point strig adds 400 m.atk if vit is above 170 with m.weapons other bow and claw Struggler adds around 700 matk if you have the proper vit to level ratio and your not using claw or bow, while bellow is 1matk per int with any weapon so around 430 matk if your level cap and have max int level in apos, so struggler will give more damage but bellow is more defensive Ahh ok I knew it was something like that just forgot exact values and while BOO is more defensive that high dps is more effective in what the original post was suggesting. Also with the use of green and blue lines you can up your m.atk and eva. With that added vit also you would add for striggs hidden you will be able to solo most of later on mq due to good def/mdef/eva/mres etc... All just preference though.
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