♫♪ Emi’s Minstrel ♫♪ [UPDATED 03.28.21]
Oct 8, 2017 8:17:47 GMT
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Post by ∙°Emi°∙ [lurking on forum] on Oct 8, 2017 8:17:47 GMT
Hi, this is Emi, and I’m a minstrel o.o/ ♫♪
Unfortunately, I need to take some time off Iruna due to my busy rl q.q So, I decided that I wanted to share everything I know about minstrels and my (nub) build with all my fellow minstrels before going on a hiatus.
EDIT [05/05/2020]: So, I'm back to Iruna, but due to technology issues (ipad), I decided to make a second minstrel on my phone. After the change in minstrel skills, I am no longer able to "spam" dragonewt; therefore, I will be building an auto / dnewt hybrid mins. Below are my stats, and I will further explain them after I introduce my planned sets. (I may not own these sets) Also, before the patch, I had used multiple QC to meet -6 sec delay (with full DEX), but we only need about -3 sec delay for our songs now.
Edit [06/08/2020]: Below, I have made changes to my sets to have single slots only (except easily farmable 2s such as chainmail, leather coat, etc.). After all, my purpose for making this thread was to assist others new to mins who may not be able to afford 2s equip.
❋ My Previous Stat: 431 STR, 431 DEX, 428 CRT, 50 VIT, 100 GL
(Pure Dragonewt minstrel)
❋ My Current Stat: 470 STR, CRT & DEX, 256 VIT, Optional AGI for evasion + Muramasa Shinuchi
(Auto & Dnewt Hybrid minstrel)
Normal bow minstrels are capable of dealing the most Dragonewt damage. Instead, they have a comparably lower survivability due to not having AGI nor VIT in the build so we often have to rely on the knowledge of ourselves and the boss.
Hybrid minstrel (current build) can use bow, sword, and special claw. Depending on VIT and AGI, they have the potential of dealing as much Dragonewt damage as Normal bow minstrels as well as utilizing veleno auto set. Survivability for this build "can" be high with disable set. (The stats and sets will be explained in detail below)
Test Results [CAP]:
- Elemental Bow (Elemental xtal) > Sirius Edge (Sauro II) in Dragonewt (Tested at Chako and 3i), BUT Strike Bow (Scorpia) < Sirius Edge (Sauro II) at 3i.
Why? Sirius Edge gives higher base attack and Third Eyes are high DEF mobs.
- Sirius Edge (Sauro II) < Mura (Sauro II) < Sirius Edge II (Veleno Rosa) in DPS (Tested at 10m Luna and 3i).
Overall DPS with auto from Muramasa Shinuchi is higher; however, the proc rate for Mura is lower than Veleno (= less damage)
List of my sets (Phrases)
❥ Pure Dragonewt Set
⇢ Max damage o.o
▫︎ Elemental Bows (Elemental Xtal) ★Elemental Blessing 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Dragonewt Set (ALL Elements)
⇢ For boss that has multiple elements
▫︎ Yggdrasil Bow OR Sirius Edge II (Sauro II) ★Melee Pierce 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ HP Dragonewt Set
⇢ HP+ with sword and myrica
▫︎ Elemental Sword (Sauro II) ★Elemental Blessing 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Myrica Wristlet (Starmuncher) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Dragonewt + Regen Set
⇢ Mermaid bow looks so pretty q.q
▫︎ Mermaid Bow (Sauro II) ★Regenerate 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★RateCut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★RateCut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Farm + Regen Set
⇢ I personally prefer to use partial disable when farming for survival
⇢ I could switch phrases to full curonne at the end of each boss run, but laziness >.<
▫︎ Jade Ricus / QotN / Mermaid Bow (Veltria) ★Regenerate 5
▫︎ Dragon Mail (Gashadroro) ★QuickCool 1
▫︎ Ensis Shield (Rudolf) ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★RateCut 4
▫︎ Jar of Greed NS
❥ Autoskill Set
⇢ DPS
▫︎ Muramasa Shinuchi (SauroII) OR Sirius Edge II (Veleno) ★Melee pierce 5
▫︎ Venom Prison (Ideaus) OR Ira (Veleno Rosa) ★Strength 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Veleno Rosa) ★Autoskill 5
▫︎ Accesstory: ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Spec 2s (Veleno Rosa, Telon) ★Autoskill 3
❥ Disable Set
⇢ Suggested to have super refined armor and additional
⇢ Need at least 256 VIT with Disable set to tank S450
⇢ Used w/Autoskill AL page (more info ↓)
▫︎ Genius (Frederico) ★Regen 5 OR Crystal Hammer (Sauro II, Sauro II) ★Provoke 5
▫︎ Dragon Mail (Gasha) ★QuickCool 1
▫︎ Ensis Shield (Rudolf) ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Autoskill 5
▫︎ Myrica (Starmuncher) ★RateCut 5
Elemental Bow /Sword (Except ◇Blue Rain and ◇Agni, the difference between Sauro II and elemental xtals isn't significant)
▫︎ Purgatory Bow @max ◇Agni x 2 (Flame)
▫︎ Glassgone @max ◇Blue Rain (Ice)
▫︎ Mirror Bow TST @max ◇Sturm (Thunder)
▫︎ River Stone Moss Bow @max ◇Aurumteus (Gaia)
▫︎ White Savior @max ◇Ninigi (Light)
▫︎ Thelt Long Bow @max ◇Halios (Dark)
▫︎ Strike Bow II @max ◇Scorpia (Neutral)
AL Crysta
❥Dragonewt Set
[6 Yellow Lines = ATK]
▲ Adventurer
▲ Sauro II
▲ Vida
▲ Sauro III
▲ Ouvel
✰ A little side note:
I was against using Vida for the longest time (-20% melee and magic res.), and instead used Vatendeth for the 15% melee pierce and extra resistance. However, I had reconsidered the AL because 1) cleave song penetrates any barriers, diminishing the purpose for melee pierce, and 2) I have sufficient HP, and life song or warrior song can be used to contribute to my survivability depending on the situation. Having said that, I would never use -rate cut% (except myrica, though I also use rc abi) because I don't want to be 1 shotted by an Ep 6 boss :'D
❥Auto/RC/Eva Set
[6 Purple Lines = Autoskill, ASPD]
▲ Sauro III
▲ Halios
▲ Shelk
▲ Union Sam
▲ Vulschem
Q&A
▫︎ Autoskill. what is that?
⇢ So "auto" is basically a DPS (use attack, instead of skills). For instance, stats in Veleno Rosa crysta has "additional attack by chance by attack". This can input extra damage when using normal attack, consuming "autoskill". Now, you need +Autoskill% to increase its chance to proc. There are many equip or xtal with additional damage by chance, but many people prefer to use Veleno because it doesn't have a soft cap on how much damage it can add to your normal attack. The one downside is that you need to be poisoned uwu
⇢ Passionate Song increases your ASPD, ATK, and most importantly, cuts your attack interval in half o.o)/
* The initial plan was to have 256 AGI to cap evasion at 95%, but in order to utilize disable set, I decided to put more points on VIT instead of AGI. However, I will be adding minimum AGI to cancel negative ASPD from Muramasa Shinuchi. Moreover, the chances are that 95% of the times I'm soloing as auto mins, I will be using Passionate song to cut my attack interal in half (which also increases ASPD)
▫︎ What about VIT?
⇢ Please have at least 50 VIT if you don't want to be dead 24/7. It also works well with disable set.
▫︎ Why do I not use ☆Attack?
⇢ -5% HP at abi lvl5 ._.
▫︎ What about the 1HP Set? (outdated)
⇢ I personally do not use the 1HP set because first of all, I do not have any AGI in the build. If I used 1HP set without any evasion, my survivability… x.x
Also, I don't find it quite useful since most of the times, I like to use Dragonewt, which I'm not able to with 1HP.
▫︎ What about the -Hate% Spam Set? (outdated)
⇢ I used to have -Hate set before the new hate system was implemented, but stopped using it as a buff set because w/the change in minstrel's hate, there's almost no need for them anymore.
Nevertheless, I do, use -Hate Dnewt Set for spamming dragonewt to keep my hate at the minimum in PT if needed.
▫︎ What about the HP/MP Pot set? (outdated)
⇢ I use pots mainly while I’m soloing. When I’m soloing, I usually like to use resistance set (unless it’s a fast kill), but if I switch to this set to increase my item recovery, I won’t have any resistance in the meanwhile, to keep me alive. So, I personally didn’t bother making a set.
▫︎ Why do I prefer Jade+Veltria instead of 2s weapon+Curonne/Sauro?
⇢ 2 Curonnes may increase your chance of getting rare when farming, and 2 Sauroes may increase the amount of exp you get while grinding. As a minstrel, especially when you're farming, the main role you need to focus on is supporting the bishop of the PT.
When your bishop isn't able to heal a PT member quickly, it's no one else's but your job to support and heal other members, asap.
Also, Jade Ricus gives +1k HP recovery every bless/j&s, which means less pressure on the bishop to heal us o.o/
▫︎ How does Dream Song affect my SD?
⇢ Skill delay formula = 3 (second) - (level ÷ 100) - (DEX ÷ 250)
Skill delay increases / decreases depending on your level and dex. The higher the lvl and the more the dex you have, the lower your SD will get.
(Dream gives +3 sec SD at level 0, w/o dex)
Please, feel free to send me a pm and I would be happy to discuss different build ideas with you guys o.o/
Playing as a minstrel, there isn't a set minstrel 'need' to have, to be able to play as one.
But, there also isn't a limit to how many or which sets you can use.
Minstrel is a class which you can think outside of the box and be creative with it, making your own sets the way you want it to be.
I hope this helped those of you who maybe would like to try a dragonewt minstrel out for a change, but have been wondering how to go about making one. Nevertheless, this is merely an example out of so many dnewt/DPS builds you can try out for minstrels. You are welcome to reference this build, but by no means this is the "best" build for minstrel (What even defines "best" in the first place o.o?). I encourage everyone to explore different builds and find the one just right for your play style. Minstrels don't have weapon mastery so we can use any weapon (yes, I even tried making rod minstrel ._.), but keep in mind your stat will depend on which weapon you use!
Don’t hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
I would be more than happy to answer your questions about not only normal bow minstrel, but also other builds as well o.o)/
Also, please excuse my messy guide-ish thread q.q I was too lazy to make spoilers >.< I’ll make it neater when I’m…less…lazy.. ouo
⇡ This never happened
annnnnd...I intended to make a video for introducing my sets and showing how resistance sets work, but not surprisingly, my laziness kicked in again so..I'll delay that as well until when I'm not as lazy xD...
Edit: I did it o.o/ (Only the resistance part tho q.q) ⇠This is now outdated
If you would like to see my minstrel in action,
⇢ Introducing Minstrel Resistance Set o.o/
⇢ (Coming Soon...) o.o/
Lastly, there are only so many minstrels in this community, so I'd love to see other minstrels' unique builds and different sets. Share share xD
P.S. Feel free to pm me, I don’t bite ouo
See you soon~ ♫♪
Unfortunately, I need to take some time off Iruna due to my busy rl q.q So, I decided that I wanted to share everything I know about minstrels and my (nub) build with all my fellow minstrels before going on a hiatus.
EDIT [05/05/2020]: So, I'm back to Iruna, but due to technology issues (ipad), I decided to make a second minstrel on my phone. After the change in minstrel skills, I am no longer able to "spam" dragonewt; therefore, I will be building an auto / dnewt hybrid mins. Below are my stats, and I will further explain them after I introduce my planned sets. (I may not own these sets) Also, before the patch, I had used multiple QC to meet -6 sec delay (with full DEX), but we only need about -3 sec delay for our songs now.
Edit [06/08/2020]: Below, I have made changes to my sets to have single slots only (except easily farmable 2s such as chainmail, leather coat, etc.). After all, my purpose for making this thread was to assist others new to mins who may not be able to afford 2s equip.
❋ My Previous Stat: 431 STR, 431 DEX, 428 CRT, 50 VIT, 100 GL
(Pure Dragonewt minstrel)
❋ My Current Stat: 470 STR, CRT & DEX, 256 VIT, Optional AGI for evasion + Muramasa Shinuchi
(Auto & Dnewt Hybrid minstrel)
Normal bow minstrels are capable of dealing the most Dragonewt damage. Instead, they have a comparably lower survivability due to not having AGI nor VIT in the build so we often have to rely on the knowledge of ourselves and the boss.
Hybrid minstrel (current build) can use bow, sword, and special claw. Depending on VIT and AGI, they have the potential of dealing as much Dragonewt damage as Normal bow minstrels as well as utilizing veleno auto set. Survivability for this build "can" be high with disable set. (The stats and sets will be explained in detail below)
Test Results [CAP]:
- Elemental Bow (Elemental xtal) > Sirius Edge (Sauro II) in Dragonewt (Tested at Chako and 3i), BUT Strike Bow (Scorpia) < Sirius Edge (Sauro II) at 3i.
Why? Sirius Edge gives higher base attack and Third Eyes are high DEF mobs.
- Sirius Edge (Sauro II) < Mura (Sauro II) < Sirius Edge II (Veleno Rosa) in DPS (Tested at 10m Luna and 3i).
Overall DPS with auto from Muramasa Shinuchi is higher; however, the proc rate for Mura is lower than Veleno (= less damage)
List of my sets (Phrases)
❥ Pure Dragonewt Set
⇢ Max damage o.o
▫︎ Elemental Bows (Elemental Xtal) ★Elemental Blessing 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Dragonewt Set (ALL Elements)
⇢ For boss that has multiple elements
▫︎ Yggdrasil Bow OR Sirius Edge II (Sauro II) ★Melee Pierce 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ HP Dragonewt Set
⇢ HP+ with sword and myrica
▫︎ Elemental Sword (Sauro II) ★Elemental Blessing 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★Rate Cut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★Rate Cut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Myrica Wristlet (Starmuncher) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Dragonewt + Regen Set
⇢ Mermaid bow looks so pretty q.q
▫︎ Mermaid Bow (Sauro II) ★Regenerate 5
▫︎ Bellow of Order (Aldi) ★RateCut 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Ideaus) ★RateCut 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Critical 5
▫︎ Thimble (Ideaus) ★Dexterity 5
❥ Farm + Regen Set
⇢ I personally prefer to use partial disable when farming for survival
⇢ I could switch phrases to full curonne at the end of each boss run, but laziness >.<
▫︎ Jade Ricus / QotN / Mermaid Bow (Veltria) ★Regenerate 5
▫︎ Dragon Mail (Gashadroro) ★QuickCool 1
▫︎ Ensis Shield (Rudolf) ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★RateCut 4
▫︎ Jar of Greed NS
❥ Autoskill Set
⇢ DPS
▫︎ Muramasa Shinuchi (SauroII) OR Sirius Edge II (Veleno) ★Melee pierce 5
▫︎ Venom Prison (Ideaus) OR Ira (Veleno Rosa) ★Strength 5
▫︎ Monty Beret (Veleno Rosa) ★Autoskill 5
▫︎ Accesstory: ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Spec 2s (Veleno Rosa, Telon) ★Autoskill 3
✰ Now, here's where the AGI comes in: 1) I need to cancel the -200% ASPD from Mura Shin. 2) 256 AGI gives evasion cap at 95%. |
❥ Disable Set
⇢ Suggested to have super refined armor and additional
⇢ Need at least 256 VIT with Disable set to tank S450
⇢ Used w/Autoskill AL page (more info ↓)
▫︎ Genius (Frederico) ★Regen 5 OR Crystal Hammer (Sauro II, Sauro II) ★Provoke 5
▫︎ Dragon Mail (Gasha) ★QuickCool 1
▫︎ Ensis Shield (Rudolf) ★Autoskill 4
▫︎ Accessory: ★Autoskill 5
▫︎ Myrica (Starmuncher) ★RateCut 5
✰ Things to keep in mind: - Sirius Edge has -50% Magic Resistance! I'd refrain from using it with low HP and Evasion - Muramasa Shinuchi is a much safer choice for auto - Dragonewt is highly based on CRT. - Using special claw, 4 ATK will increase per STR and +1 ATK from CRT ⌑ Sirius Edge II gives extra ATK per DEX and CRT |
Elemental Bow /Sword (Except ◇Blue Rain and ◇Agni, the difference between Sauro II and elemental xtals isn't significant)
▫︎ Purgatory Bow @max ◇Agni x 2 (Flame)
▫︎ Glassgone @max ◇Blue Rain (Ice)
▫︎ Mirror Bow TST @max ◇Sturm (Thunder)
▫︎ River Stone Moss Bow @max ◇Aurumteus (Gaia)
▫︎ White Savior @max ◇Ninigi (Light)
▫︎ Thelt Long Bow @max ◇Halios (Dark)
▫︎ Strike Bow II @max ◇Scorpia (Neutral)
AL Crysta
❥Dragonewt Set
[6 Yellow Lines = ATK]
▲ Adventurer
▲ Sauro II
▲ Vida
▲ Sauro III
▲ Ouvel
✰ A little side note:
I was against using Vida for the longest time (-20% melee and magic res.), and instead used Vatendeth for the 15% melee pierce and extra resistance. However, I had reconsidered the AL because 1) cleave song penetrates any barriers, diminishing the purpose for melee pierce, and 2) I have sufficient HP, and life song or warrior song can be used to contribute to my survivability depending on the situation. Having said that, I would never use -rate cut% (except myrica, though I also use rc abi) because I don't want to be 1 shotted by an Ep 6 boss :'D
❥Auto/RC/Eva Set
[6 Purple Lines = Autoskill, ASPD]
▲ Sauro III
▲ Halios
▲ Shelk
▲ Union Sam
▲ Vulschem
Q&A
▫︎ Autoskill. what is that?
⇢ So "auto" is basically a DPS (use attack, instead of skills). For instance, stats in Veleno Rosa crysta has "additional attack by chance by attack". This can input extra damage when using normal attack, consuming "autoskill". Now, you need +Autoskill% to increase its chance to proc. There are many equip or xtal with additional damage by chance, but many people prefer to use Veleno because it doesn't have a soft cap on how much damage it can add to your normal attack. The one downside is that you need to be poisoned uwu
⇢ Passionate Song increases your ASPD, ATK, and most importantly, cuts your attack interval in half o.o)/
▫︎ Why STR? ⇢ +3 ATK per STR using normal sword ⇢ +4 ATK per STR using special claw ⇢ +2 ATK per STR using normal bow | ▫︎ Why DEX? ⇢ +1 ATK per DEX using normal sword ⇢ +2 ATK per DEX using normal bow ⇢ Decreases overall skill delay |
▫︎ Why AGI? ⇢ Increases ASPD (approx. 12 AGI per 10% ASPD) ⇢ Increases Evasion (95% at 256 AGI) | ▫︎ Why CRT? ⇢ +1 ATK per CRT using special claw ⇢ Dragonewt damage is highly dependent on CRT ⇢ Just please cap CRT |
* The initial plan was to have 256 AGI to cap evasion at 95%, but in order to utilize disable set, I decided to put more points on VIT instead of AGI. However, I will be adding minimum AGI to cancel negative ASPD from Muramasa Shinuchi. Moreover, the chances are that 95% of the times I'm soloing as auto mins, I will be using Passionate song to cut my attack interal in half (which also increases ASPD)
▫︎ What about VIT?
⇢ Please have at least 50 VIT if you don't want to be dead 24/7. It also works well with disable set.
▫︎ Why do I not use ☆Attack?
⇢ -5% HP at abi lvl5 ._.
▫︎ What about the 1HP Set? (outdated)
⇢ I personally do not use the 1HP set because first of all, I do not have any AGI in the build. If I used 1HP set without any evasion, my survivability… x.x
Also, I don't find it quite useful since most of the times, I like to use Dragonewt, which I'm not able to with 1HP.
▫︎ What about the -Hate% Spam Set? (outdated)
⇢ I used to have -Hate set before the new hate system was implemented, but stopped using it as a buff set because w/the change in minstrel's hate, there's almost no need for them anymore.
Nevertheless, I do, use -Hate Dnewt Set for spamming dragonewt to keep my hate at the minimum in PT if needed.
▫︎ What about the HP/MP Pot set? (outdated)
⇢ I use pots mainly while I’m soloing. When I’m soloing, I usually like to use resistance set (unless it’s a fast kill), but if I switch to this set to increase my item recovery, I won’t have any resistance in the meanwhile, to keep me alive. So, I personally didn’t bother making a set.
▫︎ Why do I prefer Jade+Veltria instead of 2s weapon+Curonne/Sauro?
⇢ 2 Curonnes may increase your chance of getting rare when farming, and 2 Sauroes may increase the amount of exp you get while grinding. As a minstrel, especially when you're farming, the main role you need to focus on is supporting the bishop of the PT.
When your bishop isn't able to heal a PT member quickly, it's no one else's but your job to support and heal other members, asap.
Also, Jade Ricus gives +1k HP recovery every bless/j&s, which means less pressure on the bishop to heal us o.o/
▫︎ How does Dream Song affect my SD?
⇢ Skill delay formula = 3 (second) - (level ÷ 100) - (DEX ÷ 250)
Skill delay increases / decreases depending on your level and dex. The higher the lvl and the more the dex you have, the lower your SD will get.
(Dream gives +3 sec SD at level 0, w/o dex)
Please, feel free to send me a pm and I would be happy to discuss different build ideas with you guys o.o/
Playing as a minstrel, there isn't a set minstrel 'need' to have, to be able to play as one.
But, there also isn't a limit to how many or which sets you can use.
Minstrel is a class which you can think outside of the box and be creative with it, making your own sets the way you want it to be.
I hope this helped those of you who maybe would like to try a dragonewt minstrel out for a change, but have been wondering how to go about making one. Nevertheless, this is merely an example out of so many dnewt/DPS builds you can try out for minstrels. You are welcome to reference this build, but by no means this is the "best" build for minstrel (What even defines "best" in the first place o.o?). I encourage everyone to explore different builds and find the one just right for your play style. Minstrels don't have weapon mastery so we can use any weapon (yes, I even tried making rod minstrel ._.), but keep in mind your stat will depend on which weapon you use!
Don’t hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
I would be more than happy to answer your questions about not only normal bow minstrel, but also other builds as well o.o)/
Also, please excuse my messy guide-ish thread q.q I was too lazy to make spoilers >.< I’ll make it neater when I’m…less…lazy.. ouo
⇡ This never happened
Edit: I did it o.o/ (Only the resistance part tho q.q) ⇠This is now outdated
If you would like to see my minstrel in action,
⇢ Introducing Minstrel Resistance Set o.o/
⇢ (Coming Soon...) o.o/
Lastly, there are only so many minstrels in this community, so I'd love to see other minstrels' unique builds and different sets. Share share xD
P.S. Feel free to pm me, I don’t bite ouo
See you soon~ ♫♪