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Post by shabalerbaler on Oct 4, 2017 13:44:25 GMT
Hey guys, what can u say about a gladiator with an autoskill build? I've heard from other players that's its good too. What does the autoskill would affect some gladiator skills? I have a 2% autoskill from sauro II ai xta. My tempest blade rarely hits 2 times at a single boss mob. Does it have something to do with autoskill?
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Post by snake on Oct 4, 2017 14:43:23 GMT
Hey guys, what can u say about a gladiator with an autoskill build? I've heard from other players that's its good too. What does the autoskill would affect some gladiator skills? I have a 2% autoskill from sauro II ai xta. My tempest blade rarely hits 2 times at a single boss mob. Does it have something to do with autoskill? autoskill-based gladiator would be far from good, as double attack would basically kill all of the autoskills (and with high autoskill proc rate you would trigger double attack most of the time). and while high double attack chance might sound good, it's damage is still incomparable to tempest spam. pillar blade's range doesn't have anything to do with autoskill.
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Post by MITS:Servant on Oct 5, 2017 11:07:19 GMT
Hello snake just to clarify when you say autoskill will be killed by double attack, does it mean magic autoskills like dajarte,ifrit etc..? What about auto skill that have "additonal atk chance" like veleno,wyn,wol? Or it will also be killed? What about gears that have triple dmg chance? Like nasturtium? Thanks in advance
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Post by Maxwello on Oct 5, 2017 12:41:22 GMT
Double atk trigger rate not crt controlled?
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Post by snake on Oct 5, 2017 13:34:54 GMT
Hello snake just to clarify when you say autoskill will be killed by double attack, does it mean magic autoskills like dajarte,ifrit etc..? What about auto skill that have "additonal atk chance" like veleno,wyn,wol? Or it will also be killed? What about gears that have triple dmg chance? Like nasturtium? Thanks in advance Additional attack/triple attack/any kind of additional skill which is not triggered manually is considered an autoskill. So, double attack will kill those as well when it triggers. You can still kinda activate autoskills when double attack does not proc, but the chances of triggering double attack is overpowering (since it's based on both your CRT stat and autoskill, therefore, much higher activation rate) compared to regular autoskills, rendering them almost useless. The only "autoskill" which double attack doesn't kill is your Combative buff (from Bloodthirst), which isn't really an autoskill by itself, but it gives you a chance of HP&MP recovery by attack/damage skill usage. This is the only auto which can trigger on double attack. Maxwello it's both, your CRT stat and Autoskill.
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Post by MITS:Servant on Oct 5, 2017 13:46:37 GMT
Hello snake just to clarify when you say autoskill will be killed by double attack, does it mean magic autoskills like dajarte,ifrit etc..? What about auto skill that have "additonal atk chance" like veleno,wyn,wol? Or it will also be killed? What about gears that have triple dmg chance? Like nasturtium? Thanks in advance Additional attack/triple attack/any kind of additional skill which is not triggered manually is considered an autoskill. So, double attack will kill those as well when it triggers. You can still kinda activate autoskills when double attack does not proc, but the chances of triggering double attack is overpowering (since it's based on both your CRT stat and autoskill, therefore, much higher activation rate) compared to regular autoskills, rendering them almost useless. The only "autoskill" which double attack doesn't kill is your Combative buff (from Bloodthirst), which isn't really an autoskill by itself, but it gives you a chance of HP&MP recovery by attack/damage skill usage. This is the only auto which can trigger on double attack. Maxwello it's both, your CRT stat and Autoskill. thanks mate im still on the process of making a glady and this info is very useful. ❤(ӦvӦ。) based on this info... if you want some autoskills on your glady better invest on those gears or xtals with "chance by defense" like freesia sword and ensis shield(?) or maybe " counter by evasion" for agi builds . this will be a fun build thou(>ω<)
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Post by Maxwello on Oct 5, 2017 13:55:07 GMT
My gf has a claw gladiator agi crt str and (dragon's claw.heinrich mail re up. Iron armour last up. Force helm re up) and I was gona get her a wol or wyn for spec.
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Post by SunPatso on Oct 5, 2017 14:27:20 GMT
My gf has a claw gladiator agi crt str and (dragon's claw.heinrich mail re up. Iron armour last up. Force helm re up) and I was gona get her a wol or wyn for spec. Gladiators doesnt have claw mastery, that build is better off being Beast Knight or Monk.
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Post by Maxwello on Oct 5, 2017 14:33:16 GMT
Yes but she enjoys playing with claw and does ok.
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Post by railiz on Oct 8, 2017 15:14:05 GMT
Well I made a treadabout this moved it cause no one said anything
When people hear autoskill they think Atk chance by Atk
But auto % is different. Auto % will help bloodT pross more Will also help with double atk pross more also When I tested bloodT it pros alotttt more then when I take off gear But I feel like auto % is for gladiator with more Def and resistance or high hp cause bloodT mostly pros when hp isn't full And also its good for just normally auto atkin to me Since you'll need any gear with% With the gear I had I did 100k tempest but couldn't spam and I guess that the down fall
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