♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 4, 2018 1:49:29 GMT
i tried doing a calculation using the formulas for burn
DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 55~] + (smithing lv * 170~)+(matk * .75)] * skill lv
int 12 dex 1 lvl 300 smithing lvl 129 matk 426 skill lvl 3
DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [[(313) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [17215 + 21930 +319] * 3 DMG = [39464] * 3 DMG = 118392
but my burn dmg is at 89196 ...29k difference --probably bigger since poison toxicity is counted on my dmg
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Post by lahunts on Jan 4, 2018 4:22:36 GMT
i tried doing a calculation using the formulas for burn DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 55~] + (smithing lv * 170~)+(matk * .75)] * skill lv int 12 dex 1 lvl 300 smithing lvl 129 matk 426 skill lvl 3 DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [[(313) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [17215 + 21930 +319] * 3 DMG = [39464] * 3 DMG = 118392 but my burn dmg is at 89196 ...29k difference --probably bigger since poison toxicity is counted on my dmg Thanks for posting your results! My formulas should get you within 5% of your actual dmg, but it wouldn't be the 1st time I've been wrong. Still I would like for you to to check somethings for me before I start retesting. 1st make sure you changed your shortcut to meteor strike lv3. It may still be set to lv 2 and u simply forgot to change it when you completed the skill quest. Looking at your actual dmg vs the calculated total, your off by roughly 30%. If it is set to level 3 and you are still getting lower dmg, check your equipment. Some gears may have a hidden the may affect your burn dmg. Ring of rush for example lowers your dex considerably. Though I don't think stat adjustments from gear, abi, and ALs affect burn dmg, maybe there is something I haven't thought about. You may want to try different gear and see if you get different results. If all looks good and your still getting lower burn dmg, then please post your gear, crystals, AL, and line configuration and I'll gladly retest with some of your suggested gear and see if I can repeat your results. Also, glad to hear someone trying out different builds for alchemist!
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 4, 2018 13:41:01 GMT
i tried doing a calculation using the formulas for burn DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 55~] + (smithing lv * 170~)+(matk * .75)] * skill lv int 12 dex 1 lvl 300 smithing lvl 129 matk 426 skill lvl 3 DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [[(313) * 55~] + (129 * 170~)+(426 * .75)] * 3 DMG = [17215 + 21930 +319] * 3 DMG = [39464] * 3 DMG = 118392 but my burn dmg is at 89196 ...29k difference --probably bigger since poison toxicity is counted on my dmg Thanks for posting your results! My formulas should get you within 5% of your actual dmg, but it wouldn't be the 1st time I've been wrong. Still I would like for you to to check somethings for me before I start retesting. 1st make sure you changed your shortcut to meteor strike lv3. It may still be set to lv 2 and u simply forgot to change it when you completed the skill quest. Looking at your actual dmg vs the calculated total, your off by roughly 30%. If it is set to level 3 and you are still getting lower dmg, check your equipment. Some gears may have a hidden the may affect your burn dmg. Ring of rush for example lowers your dex considerably. Though I don't think stat adjustments from gear, abi, and ALs affect burn dmg, maybe there is something I haven't thought about. You may want to try different gear and see if you get different results. If all looks good and your still getting lower burn dmg, then please post your gear, crystals, AL, and line configuration and I'll gladly retest with some of your suggested gear and see if I can repeat your results. Also, glad to hear someone trying out different builds for alchemist! meteor is set to lvl 3 -- lvl 2 dmg only at 59k gears - sauro blade l4 dark crystal fluency 1 silver mail dark crystal fluency 1 sieger plate dark crystal fluency 1 catura talisman dark crystal hp2 full red line malti def150 leviam hp600 hp400 i only have 1 dex and 12 int cause of my previous class is physical type agi crt str all at 360
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Post by lahunts on Jan 4, 2018 17:31:04 GMT
Thanks for posting your results! My formulas should get you within 5% of your actual dmg, but it wouldn't be the 1st time I've been wrong. Still I would like for you to to check somethings for me before I start retesting. 1st make sure you changed your shortcut to meteor strike lv3. It may still be set to lv 2 and u simply forgot to change it when you completed the skill quest. Looking at your actual dmg vs the calculated total, your off by roughly 30%. If it is set to level 3 and you are still getting lower dmg, check your equipment. Some gears may have a hidden the may affect your burn dmg. Ring of rush for example lowers your dex considerably. Though I don't think stat adjustments from gear, abi, and ALs affect burn dmg, maybe there is something I haven't thought about. You may want to try different gear and see if you get different results. If all looks good and your still getting lower burn dmg, then please post your gear, crystals, AL, and line configuration and I'll gladly retest with some of your suggested gear and see if I can repeat your results. Also, glad to hear someone trying out different builds for alchemist! meteor is set to lvl 3 -- lvl 2 dmg only at 59k gears - sauro blade l4 dark crystal fluency 1 silver mail dark crystal fluency 1 sieger plate dark crystal fluency 1 catura talisman dark crystal hp2 full red line malti def150 leviam hp600 hp400 i only have 1 dex and 12 int cause of my previous class is physical type agi crt str all at 360 Alright! I think i got it now! Try this formula: Dmg = (((int + dex) * 70) + (Smithing level *200) + (matk * 0.75)) * skill lv I used a restat book on an alchemist that had no prod levels but was level 254. My dmg drop to nothing! I added some points to all the stats and gained a prod level in Smithing. So I hope this is more ACCURATE! I'll have updated the original post. P.S. Don't forget to add 10% for poison toxicity!
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 5, 2018 5:23:17 GMT
Dmg = (((int + dex) * 70) + (Smithing level *200) + (matk * 0.75)) * skill lv
Dmg = (((12 + 1) * 70) + (129 *200) + (426 * 0.75)) * 3
Dmg = ((13 * 70) + (129 *200) + (426 * 0.75)) * 3
Dmg = (910 + 25800 + 319) * 3
Dmg = (910 + 25800 + 319) * 3
Dmg = 27029 * 3
Dmg = 81087
plus 10 percent 8108.7
total dmg 89196
yay exact number
thx again n.n/
imma check on poison next
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 5, 2018 5:35:29 GMT
DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 21.5~] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv
same value as above except poison is lvl 4 / alchemy lvl 99
DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 21.5~] + (99 * 90)] * 4
DMG = [[313 * 21.5~] + 8910] * 4
DMG = [6729.5 + 8910] * 4
DMG = 62558
plus 10 percent ; 6255.8
total dmg = 68738.8 pretty close -- same gear/same al = dmg is 70510
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Post by lahunts on Jan 5, 2018 18:25:12 GMT
DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 21.5~] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv same value as above except poison is lvl 4 / alchemy lvl 99 DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 21.5~] + (99 * 90)] * 4 DMG = [[313 * 21.5~] + 8910] * 4 DMG = [6729.5 + 8910] * 4 DMG = 62558 plus 10 percent ; 6255.8 total dmg = 68738.8 pretty close -- same gear/same al = dmg is 70510 Yea I've been playing around with this one for awhile and still can't get it right(which is why I haven't changed it here yet) Try these: Dmg=(((int + dex) * 21) + (lv * 23~) +(alch lv * 90)) * skill level Or Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv Both of these will get you closer then my original but it's still off a bit. I think the second one is the correct formula, but I think that my fortune keeps throwing me off if it is a int or dex day. Let me know what you get! Thanks for posting your results again! ^_^
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 6, 2018 2:13:48 GMT
DMG = [[(int + dex + lv) * 21.5~] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv same value as above except poison is lvl 4 / alchemy lvl 99 DMG = [[(12 + 1 + 300) * 21.5~] + (99 * 90)] * 4 DMG = [[313 * 21.5~] + 8910] * 4 DMG = [6729.5 + 8910] * 4 DMG = 62558 plus 10 percent ; 6255.8 total dmg = 68738.8 pretty close -- same gear/same al = dmg is 70510 Yea I've been playing around with this one for awhile and still can't get it right(which is why I haven't changed it here yet) Try these: Dmg=(((int + dex) * 21) + (lv * 23~) +(alch lv * 90)) * skill level Or Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv Both of these will get you closer then my original but it's still off a bit. I think the second one is the correct formula, but I think that my fortune keeps throwing me off if it is a int or dex day. Let me know what you get! Thanks for posting your results again! ^_^ Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv some new addition int 13 alchemy lvl 119 poison dmg 78k - i rounded it off to nearest thousands Dmg = (((13 + 1 + 300) * 21) + (119 * 90) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (((314) * 21) + (10710) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (6594 + 10710 + 500~) * 4 Dmg = 71216 10 percent 7121.6 = 78k yup its only a few hundred difference with formula no. 2
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Post by lahunts on Jan 7, 2018 19:57:10 GMT
Yea I've been playing around with this one for awhile and still can't get it right(which is why I haven't changed it here yet) Try these: Dmg=(((int + dex) * 21) + (lv * 23~) +(alch lv * 90)) * skill level Or Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv Both of these will get you closer then my original but it's still off a bit. I think the second one is the correct formula, but I think that my fortune keeps throwing me off if it is a int or dex day. Let me know what you get! Thanks for posting your results again! ^_^ Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv some new addition int 13 alchemy lvl 119 poison dmg 78k - i rounded it off to nearest thousands Dmg = (((13 + 1 + 300) * 21) + (119 * 90) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (((314) * 21) + (10710) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (6594 + 10710 + 500~) * 4 Dmg = 71216 10 percent 7121.6 = 78k yup its only a few hundred difference with formula no. 2 If you take the difference between your actual dmg and the formula I gave it should be evenly divided by 21(after you remove the 10%). If it is, then that means something is adding int or dex to your base stats, but I don't know what would be doing that...
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 9, 2018 2:56:43 GMT
Dmg = (((int + dex + lv) * 21) + (alch lv * 90) + 500~) * skill lv some new addition int 13 alchemy lvl 119 poison dmg 78k - i rounded it off to nearest thousands Dmg = (((13 + 1 + 300) * 21) + (119 * 90) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (((314) * 21) + (10710) + 500~) * 4 Dmg = (6594 + 10710 + 500~) * 4 Dmg = 71216 10 percent 7121.6 = 78k yup its only a few hundred difference with formula no. 2 If you take the difference between your actual dmg and the formula I gave it should be evenly divided by 21(after you remove the 10%). If it is, then that means something is adding int or dex to your base stats, but I don't know what would be doing that... ill check again soon - lvling alchemy as much as i can -- also added a bunch of lvls by finising mq and grind oh btw i found a cheap xtal named poison boost 1 -- poison dmg plus 4 percent and 3 sec extension on poison duration and i just noticed even 4 percent gives a nice boost to dmg -- from 108k -- jumped to 112k
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Post by lahunts on Jan 9, 2018 5:18:46 GMT
If you take the difference between your actual dmg and the formula I gave it should be evenly divided by 21(after you remove the 10%). If it is, then that means something is adding int or dex to your base stats, but I don't know what would be doing that... ill check again soon - lvling alchemy as much as i can -- also added a bunch of lvls by finising mq and grind oh btw i found a cheap xtal named poison boost 1 -- poison dmg plus 4 percent and 3 sec extension on poison duration and i just noticed even 4 percent gives a nice boost to dmg -- from 108k -- jumped to 112k Yea they are a cheap alternative to seele zauga 1 crystals but seele 1 is very easy to farm once you have 150 poison dmg. I was able to farm all four crystals in my poison set in 4 hours with tickets, 5 star drop day, and a jar. Also keep the honey crystals you get from the kijimu. Alchemy levels 190 to 200 can use them!
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 25, 2018 2:49:33 GMT
hi again
checking formulas again n.n poison [500 + [(int + dex + lv) * 21] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv
new statistics lvl 306 int 24 dex 15 alchemy lv 168
[500 + [(int + dex + lv) * 21] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv [500 + [(24 + 15 + 306) * 21] + (168 lv * 90)] * 4 [500 + [345 * 21] + (15120)] * 4 [500 + 7245 + 15120] * 4 22865 * 4 = 91460 poison toxic plus 2 seele 91460 / 10 x 4 = 36584
grand total 128044 poison
my dmg 128279 just a little discrepancy xD
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 25, 2018 2:52:24 GMT
oh btw my servant friend finally went back to iruna and we had fun testing alche idmg with soul connect
i just noticed that only poison got boosted by the shared int and dex while burn wasnt affected much -- i checked with the formula and it seems only the boosted matk gave 3k burn dmg -- while the shared int and dex wasnt added to the dmg calculation
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Post by lahunts on Jan 25, 2018 6:25:55 GMT
hi again checking formulas again n.n poison [500 + [(int + dex + lv) * 21] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv new statistics lvl 306 int 24 dex 15 alchemy lv 168 [500 + [(int + dex + lv) * 21] + (alchemy lv * 90)] * skill lv [500 + [(24 + 15 + 306) * 21] + (168 lv * 90)] * 4 [500 + [345 * 21] + (15120)] * 4 [500 + 7245 + 15120] * 4 22865 * 4 = 91460 poison toxic plus 2 seele 91460 / 10 x 4 = 36584 grand total 128044 poison my dmg 128279 just a little discrepancy xD LOL not bad at all! If you add 2 to your int dex or level then you will have the exact number. Meaning something you have equipped is adding 2 to one of your stats. I have a similar problem because something is adding 3 on mine but I can't narrow it down. Nice find on the servant being able to boost poison dmg. That makes me want to ask one of my guild members to connect me to see if i could break 500k poison, but since my int and dex are already capped it might not affect me much. Did you try cursed rain or bleed yet? I'm curious if they get affected too.
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jan 25, 2018 8:11:50 GMT
oh yes cursed went up by 10k -- 30k original after soul 40k bleed went up by 12k --- original 28k after soul 40k
maybe refinement got to do something -- all my gear except sieger is plus 8 -- sieger plus 9 oh forgot my new als leviam red malti red altan red rc2 red octocur red
planning to change leviam to vulschem red if i can find a cheap seller
extra info i tried with 2 servant friends 1 is a lvl 240 servant with max int /dex/vit 256 all and the other is a lvl 356 one with maxed int and 300 dex /300 vit
with lv 240 servant poison bumped up to 180k
with lvl 356 servant poison bumped up to 200k
with my temporary poison set alacran 3 seele t.garb reup poison boost 1 sieger seele cgs seele
poison bumped to 185k unbuffed
soul connect 3 with lvl 240 serv -- poison bumped to 242k
havent got the time to test with the other servant .. we were kinda busy with a huge event for the irunian ph community xD
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