♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 5, 2017 9:23:26 GMT
OK I'm on mobile again so I can't quote so I'll just put it here
lge effect : effect 1 : regains mp by consuming HP effect 2: if an attack hits over ur current HP ull survive with 1 HP but all ur buffs will be gone
2nd effect is an after effect of the 1st one...and its not bug ..it has been confirmed from the devs themselves that the mini resurrection effect is in fact intended... works best with class that got high evasion as they can run away after the supposed to be death moment
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Post by symphony on Sept 5, 2017 11:52:02 GMT
if u cant invest yet on elemental weapons then just get a wicktrace cerberus- good enough for 4 elements uroboros cerberus - for light and dark and an eventail 2 cerberus - for neutral well still bit expensive but at least ur bag space is spared haha diamante is good as it is though although theres a better throwing with dedcated stats for assassins ...kagekiri Kagekiri [Throwing] Effect: ATK: 302-317-332 ATK +15% MP Cost -10% Hate -30%. For Assassin, Critical damage +17% its missing -sd but its a most-in-one throw Should i get this or reup my ira?
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 5, 2017 15:04:02 GMT
better reup ira first...then earn and get kagekiri nxt...then earn again and start building ur collection of elemental throws *_* and 2s xD
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Post by symphony on Sept 5, 2017 23:40:10 GMT
better reup ira first...then earn and get kagekiri nxt...then earn again and start building ur collection of elemental throws *_* and 2s xD So i just lent a newb who said he'd work for 25m ((trust me he's not a beggar)) and he actually worked n sh*t said he's active for like 6hours and i'm amazed by his dedication n gave him 30m so i got just 40m left and guess what? At the stall got my ira reup set for 3m and a kagekiri @303 for 25m great karma boi Could't find any cheap crystas so i only put a sharpess III in it, pretty nc damage does more damage to a light than an uroboros w halios on wew, now for the stats,, got my ira reup kagekiri m daiginjo up, should i pump 2crt 1dex to eventually lower the -sd or should i just keep maxing crt?
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 6, 2017 0:52:24 GMT
better reup ira first...then earn and get kagekiri nxt...then earn again and start building ur collection of elemental throws *_* and 2s xD So i just lent a newb who said he'd work for 25m ((trust me he's not a beggar)) and he actually worked n sh*t said he's active for like 6hours and i'm amazed by his dedication n gave him 30m so i got just 40m left and guess what? At the stall got my ira reup set for 3m and a kagekiri @303 for 25m great karma boi Could't find any cheap crystas so i only put a sharpess III in it, pretty nc damage does more damage to a light than an uroboros w halios on wew, now for the stats,, got my ira reup kagekiri m daiginjo up, should i pump 2crt 1dex to eventually lower the -sd or should i just keep maxing crt? tbh its actually up to the player itself ..since dex got a fixed dex to -sd rate -- so u can calculate first how much -sd ur willing to put on your final set then calculate how much dex ull need to do the per sec bs spam --- i saw some ppl only adding 200 below dex ..sometimes even lower than 150 but still spam bs although u can keep maxing crt if u want more definite bigger dmg since sometimes as a low lvl sin its better to 1 shot things than to spam with lower dmg and risk getting hit in the process ----and grats on getting ira reup and kagekiri n.n
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Post by symphony on Sept 6, 2017 1:49:11 GMT
So i just lent a newb who said he'd work for 25m ((trust me he's not a beggar)) and he actually worked n sh*t said he's active for like 6hours and i'm amazed by his dedication n gave him 30m so i got just 40m left and guess what? At the stall got my ira reup set for 3m and a kagekiri @303 for 25m great karma boi Could't find any cheap crystas so i only put a sharpess III in it, pretty nc damage does more damage to a light than an uroboros w halios on wew, now for the stats,, got my ira reup kagekiri m daiginjo up, should i pump 2crt 1dex to eventually lower the -sd or should i just keep maxing crt? tbh its actually up to the player itself ..since dex got a fixed dex to -sd rate -- so u can calculate first how much -sd ur willing to put on your final set then calculate how much dex ull need to do the per sec bs spam --- i saw some ppl only adding 200 below dex ..sometimes even lower than 150 but still spam bs although u can keep maxing crt if u want more definite bigger dmg since sometimes as a low lvl sin its better to 1 shot things than to spam with lower dmg and risk getting hit in the process ----and grats on getting ira reup and kagekiri n.n Okay thanks for all your help, will take all of thr into calculation, and 1 more what xtal would be good for my kagekiri?
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 6, 2017 4:35:22 GMT
tbh its actually up to the player itself ..since dex got a fixed dex to -sd rate -- so u can calculate first how much -sd ur willing to put on your final set then calculate how much dex ull need to do the per sec bs spam --- i saw some ppl only adding 200 below dex ..sometimes even lower than 150 but still spam bs although u can keep maxing crt if u want more definite bigger dmg since sometimes as a low lvl sin its better to 1 shot things than to spam with lower dmg and risk getting hit in the process ----and grats on getting ira reup and kagekiri n.n Okay thanks for all your help, will take all of thr into calculation, and 1 more what xtal would be good for my kagekiri? either a cerberus or any high atk xtal should do
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Post by cerulain on Sept 14, 2017 23:40:00 GMT
Good luck with your assassin, I'll lose respect for you if you decide to go SK Ninja because of their backstab for dummies skill.
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Ravitox
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Editing the assassin gear sets...
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Post by Ravitox on Sept 15, 2017 0:31:21 GMT
Good luck with your assassin, I'll lose respect for you if you decide to go SK Ninja because of their backstab for dummies skill. Ah, but being a magic ninja has its own troubles The same way that every skill has one drawback or another, Silent Kill has its limits and difficulties.
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Post by cerulain on Sept 15, 2017 0:32:51 GMT
Good luck with your assassin, I'll lose respect for you if you decide to go SK Ninja because of their backstab for dummies skill. Ah, but being a magic ninja has its own troubles The same way that every skill has one drawback or another, Silent Kill has its limits and difficulties. Ah, but in the context of Backstab and Silent Kill, SK is significantly easier to use and doesn't require perfect positioning and micromanagement to maximise dps.
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Post by pingrek on Sept 15, 2017 0:55:17 GMT
Ah, but being a magic ninja has its own troubles The same way that every skill has one drawback or another, Silent Kill has its limits and difficulties. Ah, but in the context of Backstab and Silent Kill, SK is significantly easier to use and doesn't require perfect positioning and micromanagement to maximise dps. It may not require positioning but to maximize dps you need to have spell boost to up matk since sk needs matk with crit dmg and atk, and since spell boost takes a decent chunk of mp to cast and depending on of you have it as a pet skill you'll need to change gear to use it and it increases mp cost so it will drain mp really fast casting bunshin no jutsu every one or two sk to rebuff clones from being hit and sk taking a clone itself so it has it's own kind of micromanagement to max dps since it's damage is only great at 3 and below clones with absolute max at 1 clone which if you don't kill the enemy you're pretty much going to be killed
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Post by cerulain on Sept 15, 2017 1:03:59 GMT
Ah, but in the context of Backstab and Silent Kill, SK is significantly easier to use and doesn't require perfect positioning and micromanagement to maximise dps. It may not require positioning but to maximize dps you need to have spell boost to up matk since sk needs matk with crit dmg and atk, and since spell boost takes a decent chunk of mp to cast and depending on of you have it as a pet skill you'll need to change gear to use it and it increases mp cost so it will drain mp really fast casting bunshin no jutsu every one or two sk to rebuff clones from being hit and sk taking a clone itself so it has it's own kind of micromanagement to max dps since it's damage is only great at 3 and below clones with absolute max at 1 clone which if you don't kill the enemy you're pretty much going to be killed Oh, blah blah. Stop trying to defend a job that's rendered assassin useless and buried for the future of the game. You can take 3 hits before you're dead, if you can't kill a mob or a boss before your mp drains out, you are braindead stupid and shouldn't play. As for assassin, you can take one hit and you're out until your pet can revive. No clones, nothin. SK damage is already amplified by Phantom at 320, and it's naturally a lot higher than backstab because of the matk scaling being greater than atk. Ninja has rendered a huge number of jobs near pointless because of their clones and SK alone, nevermind DoC. I've no respect for anyone who takes ninja for that reason. And most are speedhacking cheats, anyway. i dislike ninja purely because of the community for it, the fact it renders a large number of jobs irrelevant due to 2-3 skills being dramatically superior to others.
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Post by SunPatso on Sept 15, 2017 1:28:17 GMT
It may not require positioning but to maximize dps you need to have spell boost to up matk since sk needs matk with crit dmg and atk, and since spell boost takes a decent chunk of mp to cast and depending on of you have it as a pet skill you'll need to change gear to use it and it increases mp cost so it will drain mp really fast casting bunshin no jutsu every one or two sk to rebuff clones from being hit and sk taking a clone itself so it has it's own kind of micromanagement to max dps since it's damage is only great at 3 and below clones with absolute max at 1 clone which if you don't kill the enemy you're pretty much going to be killed Oh, blah blah. Stop trying to defend a job that's rendered assassin useless and buried for the future of the game. You can take 3 hits before you're dead, if you can't kill a mob or a boss before your mp drains out, you are braindead stupid and shouldn't play. As for assassin, you can take one hit and you're out until your pet can revive. No clones, nothin. SK damage is already amplified by Phantom at 320, and it's naturally a lot higher than backstab because of the matk scaling being greater than atk. Ninja has rendered a huge number of jobs near pointless because of their clones and SK alone, nevermind DoC. I've no respect for anyone who takes ninja for that reason. And most are speedhacking cheats, anyway. i dislike ninja purely because of the community for it, the fact it renders a large number of jobs irrelevant due to 2-3 skills being dramatically superior to others. This thread is supposed to help " symphony" with his assassin, please create your own thread and rant there, thank you.
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Post by pingrek on Sept 15, 2017 3:29:26 GMT
It may not require positioning but to maximize dps you need to have spell boost to up matk since sk needs matk with crit dmg and atk, and since spell boost takes a decent chunk of mp to cast and depending on of you have it as a pet skill you'll need to change gear to use it and it increases mp cost so it will drain mp really fast casting bunshin no jutsu every one or two sk to rebuff clones from being hit and sk taking a clone itself so it has it's own kind of micromanagement to max dps since it's damage is only great at 3 and below clones with absolute max at 1 clone which if you don't kill the enemy you're pretty much going to be killed Oh, blah blah. Stop trying to defend a job that's rendered assassin useless and buried for the future of the game. You can take 3 hits before you're dead, if you can't kill a mob or a boss before your mp drains out, you are braindead stupid and shouldn't play. As for assassin, you can take one hit and you're out until your pet can revive. No clones, nothin. SK damage is already amplified by Phantom at 320, and it's naturally a lot higher than backstab because of the matk scaling being greater than atk. Ninja has rendered a huge number of jobs near pointless because of their clones and SK alone, nevermind DoC. I've no respect for anyone who takes ninja for that reason. And most are speedhacking cheats, anyway. i dislike ninja purely because of the community for it, the fact it renders a large number of jobs irrelevant due to 2-3 skills being dramatically superior to others. First of all I'm sorry you feel that way, but I was just saying that while sk is superior in it's damage in a single hit it's not consistent unles you just do sk-bunshin-sk-bunshin whereas sin can stun in the first hit with sicarius and than have several seconds on uninterrupted backstab with consistent damage unless the boss battle has debuffs, ninja itself hasn't rendered other jobs useless it's the community that thinks some classes are less useful than others when in reality some classes are more useful at some bosses than others so one boss sk may be better but others sin will prevail as best so in the end it's your opinion that sin is useless when it's just your salty about sk having clones yet I've seen sins take on things better than sk because of their evasion and have better end dps because their backstab has consistent damage whereas sk damage depends on what clone you were on when you use it and if its not in a pt with a bunch of buffs from bishop and minstrel it's damage isn't exactly the best so a between them with just self buffs sin will have better dps overall because of consistency whereas sk has a potentially higher single hit damage, now as for most ninjas being hackers you clearly haven't seen all the hackers in literally every other class so it's not just a single class that has hackers every single class has loads of hackers not just ninjas, and truthfully ninjas were meant for using throwing weapons with an int based build rather than agi/crt builds but someone found the artificial hp delete from gear and xtals to constantly get 9 clones and go auto attack since ninja does have that passive autoskill if weapon doesn't have one so ninja could have had an auto attack build option in the first place and remember jp version was always ahead of this version so it was some jp player that found the hp trick and since it was within game means that achieved it then it is legal since there is no outside app being used to create it and since there is no weapon restriction for classes any class can do whatever build it wants it's just some work better than others. I am so sorry that this has gone off the original threads intention so I won't be responding to this post anymore since this thread was meant to help someone not argue over classes
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 15, 2017 7:58:46 GMT
assassins are awesome on the get -go its just the difficulty of getting good enough dmg that is hard -as well as the know-how in order to survive--and the micro management in positioning isnt something anyone can perfect on the spot --well once auto bs is released expect more assassins --doing their mercenary job with ease
while sk ninjas -- since the skill is at 300 the only difficulty there is getting to that lvl..which thanks to the exp 1k event isnt that hard at all specially if ur loaded with spina to buy lvl service which sometimes only takes 1 day for a pilot lvl service
although with sk ninja -- ppl just keep following the meta build where they drop survival and go full dmg resulting in the high death rate in every failed attempt--its also tiring to do the same thing over and over again xD
im not a fan of meta builds so i made my sk nin to be a ninja that wont die if i lose all clones after spamming sk too much -- with vit and stat on GR the crisis of dying after a failed attempt is dodged -- i expect dps to be lower though but will have to wait for the nxt mq update to actually test it --too lazy to grind out the last lvl
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