Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 17, 2017 11:02:12 GMT
For those who want to prove whether its valid or not. Use your Smithing, strengthen a weapon til it becomes "Normal" now equip your freesia sword eisen, armor eisen, Addgear with the +15% melee to fire xtal Use smithing charm and not Water ring (Didnt compared yet with water goddess ring). Rua 1 and Rua2 Water Drink Check the grade again Now what I don't understand is how Failnaught affected prod... it has no element and no stat increase ?! is it because of Melee per Lv? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:05:04 GMT
To make it short, I showed it to my friend couple of months ago. Did an emerald roar ns as an example, prod it into "Normal grade" then equipped my Anti fire set and voila. Easy grade. Dayum. No wonder my cooking recipes are always very easy. This is good to know. Thank goodness I have a complete elemental addgear and weapon set on my paladin. So I need all that equipment just to move Normal to Easy? No the technique is Use equip against the element of your prod (especially when strenghtening weapon) So use it from the start. Use the vice versa method if you want to waste materials (or fail alot for lvling) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:06:37 GMT
For those who want to prove whether its valid or not. Use your Smithing, strengthen a weapon til it becomes "Normal" now equip your freesia sword eisen, armor eisen, Addgear with the +15% melee to fire xtal Use smithing charm and not Water ring (Didnt compared yet with water goddess ring). Rua 1 and Rua2 Water Drink Check the grade again Now what I don't understand is how Failnaught affected prod... it has no element and no stat increase ?! is it because of Melee per Lv? It should be because Melee is counted as Melee against to X element (In failnaught case it is melee to all whatever element it is) |
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 17, 2017 11:09:51 GMT
Dayum. No wonder my cooking recipes are always very easy. This is good to know. Thank goodness I have a complete elemental addgear and weapon set on my paladin. So I need all that equipment just to move Normal to Easy? No the technique is Use equip against the element of your prod (especially when strenghtening weapon) So use it from the start. Use the vice versa method if you want to waste materials (or fail alot for lvling) How much do I need to move 1 difficulty to another? |
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 17, 2017 11:12:51 GMT
Now what I don't understand is how Failnaught affected prod... it has no element and no stat increase ?! is it because of Melee per Lv? It should be because Melee is counted as Melee against to X element (In failnaught case it is melee to all whatever element it is) So meelee up by level is actually better? Medim corona, ultimi and red tengu adds a LOT |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:17:03 GMT
No the technique is Use equip against the element of your prod (especially when strenghtening weapon) So use it from the start. Use the vice versa method if you want to waste materials (or fail alot for lvling) How much do I need to move 1 difficulty to another? It is affected by how much % abuse you use and the level between your Prod lvl and recipe you attempt. About the numbers I cannot give exact value. Also depends on youd stats. For instance the irogeos, My vit is high and since Carpentry represents Vit, and with the use of Fire set along with fortune, Irogeos til max was normal (290~293) (Using prod ticket also) , and with prod campaign that time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:25:52 GMT
It should be because Melee is counted as Melee against to X element (In failnaught case it is melee to all whatever element it is) So meelee up by level is actually better? Medim corona, ultimi and red tengu adds a LOT Eversince I've been using element sets for this method. Since wearing same elemental set for type of prod corresponds also with your set slightly increases the difficulty. But... applying it on armor and add gear is best choice. After all Elemental weapons is the best, thats automatically +20%. So use the melee up thing on add gear and armor along with an elemental xtal. Also have a spare page, because al crysta affects it too. |
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Post by Zin on Jul 17, 2017 11:29:28 GMT
To make it short, I showed it to my friend couple of months ago. Did an emerald roar ns as an example, prod it into "Normal grade" then equipped my Anti fire set and voila. Easy grade. Dayum. No wonder my cooking recipes are always very easy. This is good to know. Thank goodness I have a complete elemental addgear and weapon set on my paladin. So I need all that equipment just to move Normal to Easy? U should thank to a person who made this thread,if it is not because of him/her,this secret will be forever secret ._. Atleast to this forum. |
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Post by Zensui_X on Jul 17, 2017 11:31:40 GMT
Haru♪ How bout apostolia lines do they also affect prod success?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:33:15 GMT
Dayum. No wonder my cooking recipes are always very easy. This is good to know. Thank goodness I have a complete elemental addgear and weapon set on my paladin. So I need all that equipment just to move Normal to Easy? U should thank to a person who made this thread,if it is not because of him/her,this secret will be forever secret ._. Atleast to this forum. I won't go off topic for long. But, that may be true or that may be not. But, having a slight advantage is a key for every game. So long its not against the rules. I dont see wrong with that. I'm sure not only me, and others also have atleast a secret to keep after all. Happy Gaming  |
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Post by Zensui_X on Jul 17, 2017 11:35:34 GMT
And for al crystas?
Say Enina 2, does it enhances success for both chasing and alchemy?
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 17, 2017 11:36:23 GMT
So meelee up by level is actually better? Medim corona, ultimi and red tengu adds a LOT Eversince I've been using element sets for this method. Since wearing same elemental set for type of prod corresponds also with your set slightly increases the difficulty. But... applying it on armor and add gear is best choice. After all Elemental weapons is the best, thats automatically +20%. So use the melee up thing on add gear and armor along with an elemental xtal. Also have a spare page, because al crysta affects it too. Have you tried comparing with the meelee up? They're a lot cheaper. Just realized Barbaro Axe even gives a lot more. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:40:20 GMT
Eversince I've been using element sets for this method. Since wearing same elemental set for type of prod corresponds also with your set slightly increases the difficulty. But... applying it on armor and add gear is best choice. After all Elemental weapons is the best, thats automatically +20%. So use the melee up thing on add gear and armor along with an elemental xtal. Also have a spare page, because al crysta affects it too. Have you tried comparing with the meelee up? They're a lot cheaper. Just realized Barbaro Axe even gives a lot more. Ill give it a try later, because some equips wont be compatible w/ me as I am Alchemist, and int dex vit. |
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Post by Haru♪ on Jul 17, 2017 11:47:09 GMT
Haru♪ How bout apostolia lines do they also affect prod success?And for al crystas? Say Enina 2, does it enhances success for both chasing and alchemy? Not sure about lines, but Al Crystas definitely affect it. And as far as I remember only the melee part of Enina II applies to success rate. I might be mistaken though. |
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Post by cyanrave1 on Jul 17, 2017 12:42:34 GMT
awesome info ty all^^
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