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Post by Brynne on Jul 9, 2017 16:58:17 GMT
Hello everyone o.o/ I just buy a muramasa s +9 no xtal for test dmg my build is STR>CRT>256VIT>RD I use 6 yellow 2 green line other equip is boo+9 iniliba sofys shield+9 Raton ror ns
after I equipped it, my aspd became 28 (yes, 28 aspd lol)
then I start to grind yarde, tada!!! my swing speed not decrease a bit o.o"
so Muramasa -200%aspd can't stop Diel Style. lol XD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 6:35:28 GMT
As the skill says : ASPD offset is ignored
That is why, tho it doesn't apply with equips that sets your aspd to minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:10:46 GMT
As the skill says : ASPD offset is ignored That is why, tho it doesn't apply with equips that sets your aspd to minimum. |
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Post by Skye on Jul 10, 2017 7:19:36 GMT
Does this mean that items like Amber Sail and special claws won't work either o.o? My BK uses Purity Claw II, and has Vit almost at max (22x) and his aspd is still god-awful. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:24:22 GMT
As the skill says : ASPD offset is ignored That is why, tho it doesn't apply with equips that sets your aspd to minimum. Thats what I tested. I have amber sail and I thought I can atk same rate but well I wasn't able. Which reminds me. Do special claws aspd at lowest is Hidden or all special claws are like that. Because that might be different case. Better if test amber sail and a special claw. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:33:38 GMT
Thanks Skye @yuhee o.o/
About the special claws, well I've tried Stake Knuckle and it has the minimum ASPD thingy. Maybe all special claws are like that o.o
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:36:38 GMT
Thanks Skye @yuhee o.o/
About the special claws, well I've tried Stake Knuckle and it has the minimum ASPD thingy. Maybe all special claws are like that o.o I see, I cannot test anymore because my vit is low and I had no agi now (I changed to normal sword now), or perhaps, what makes you atk fast with even with the lowest aspd is because of aspd value up by vit w/ diel style when you got high vit? I hope u can test amber and a special claw. Because when I was still normal claw user, my ViT is 100 only and if we disregard my AGI that time, the asd value I'll get from diel style isn't enough for the max aspd rate could it be? |
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Post by pingrek on Jul 10, 2017 9:46:30 GMT
Thanks Skye @yuhee o.o/
About the special claws, well I've tried Stake Knuckle and it has the minimum ASPD thingy. Maybe all special claws are like that o.o I see, I cannot test anymore because my vit is low and I had no agi now (I changed to normal sword now), or perhaps, what makes you atk fast with even with the lowest aspd is because of aspd value up by vit w/ diel style when you got high vit? I hope u can test amber and a special claw. Because when I was still normal claw user, my ViT is 100 only and if we disregard my AGI that time, the asd value I'll get from diel style isn't enough for the max aspd rate could it be? I'm a normal claw bk and can say diel style has zero effect on aspd minimum things like amber sail and spec claws since I use amber sail for spamming impact blow for extra evasion and since no interuptions except when I have to reapply bleed since I don't have much -delay, aspd minimum is just as it says there is no fix for this except spamming dual blow, where as the -aspd% is just as it says it lowers aspd by a % instead of fixing it at one point |
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Post by AnTz on Jul 10, 2017 10:58:44 GMT
I'm a normal claw bk and can say diel style has zero effect on aspd minimum things like amber sail and spec claws since I use amber sail for spamming impact blow for extra evasion and since no interuptions except when I have to reapply bleed since I don't have much -delay, aspd minimum is just as it says there is no fix for this except spamming dual blow, where as the -aspd% is just as it says it lowers aspd by a % instead of fixing it at one point Yes, it's true. Actually it is as it said in skill description: "ignore offset". While -xxx% aspd is clearly an offset, minimum aspd is not. It directly change ur aspd to minimum value. There is no counter for this one, that's why it works against diel style xD |
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Post by Fierce! on Jul 14, 2017 12:49:19 GMT
Use Shippu Jinrai skill of samurai with weapons like special claws, attack speed set at minimum is completely ignored.
I've tested it, Shippu Jinrai skills gives Max Aspd and Atk interval half for all the weapons in the games.
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Post by Skye on Jul 14, 2017 19:09:17 GMT
Use Shippu Jinrai skill of samurai with weapons like special claws, attack speed set at minimum is completely ignored. I've tested it, Shippu Jinrai skills gives Max Aspd and Atk interval half for all the weapons in the games. And if BK's had Shippu Jinrai I'm sure this information would be immensely helpful. |
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Post by maximo24 on Jul 16, 2017 6:35:24 GMT
Diel style dont affect sp claws i alredy test thst and i have 0 problem to spamm the skills diel style only affect weapons that have some % of atk speed reduction like masamune -200% atk speed i test thsr and my atk speed was the same it only work when the description say fix atk speed if your below xd example black laker sword that one if you have less then 300 dex lower atk speed to fix 80 my bk is 431 vit so i dotn get any interruptions with the atk interval same on purity the atk speed is at the minimum
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