AianLacruzel
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I'll wear my penalties as a trophy. Silenced because I can't admit I was wrong and contradict myself
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jul 13, 2017 6:33:06 GMT
All pots make Iruna broken, there's no point arguing with lacruzel, you'll be here for the rest of your life If you really believe that all pots are broken, ur argument with me will be short and sweet. Btw, the quoted post seems to have been deleted.
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AianLacruzel
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I'll wear my penalties as a trophy. Silenced because I can't admit I was wrong and contradict myself
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jul 13, 2017 6:47:44 GMT
This thread will probably be locked because 90% of it is annoying I don't mind but it should apply to all threads. If a bunch of guys posted on the Equip Upgrade thread for example, to the point where 90% of it is annoying, then it should also be locked then? Also being annoying does not equate to irrelevance. I don't think it's a good idea coz: 1. Someone might post a SS of Asobimo's reply. 2. Someone might corroborate my report. I don't mind though. In the end it's up to the mods to decide. It's not my forum.
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Post by smoothy on Jul 13, 2017 11:28:35 GMT
For me it really wasting the time spamming LGE when try to escape from the bos becoz u will run and run around the field and then rebuff if die again u will keep running and rebuff xD that make your farming or solo session not so smooth enough ._.
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jul 13, 2017 11:40:59 GMT
For me it really wasting the time spamming LGE when try to escape from the bos becoz u will run and run around the field and then rebuff if die again u will keep running and rebuff xD that make your farming or solo session not so smooth enough ._. its true it isnt feasible for farming as you would eat through them on mid to high tier bosses((example episode 3 to 5)) but it shouldnt prevent you from soloing them at least once for needed objectives like main quests,and skill quests if you are capable of dealing good amounts of damage to the boss and survive for a while before needing to escape either by high resistance or high absolute and magical evasion of some sort or try to attack while spamming buffless and here is a video that demonstrates soloing them at least once using LGE only as way to escape boss aggro even though its not feasible for farming mid to high tier bosses as you would run out of stacks very quickly if you try to farm them ^^
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asteg
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yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Jul 13, 2017 19:25:10 GMT
All pots make Iruna broken, there's no point arguing with lacruzel, you'll be here for the rest of your life If you really believe that all pots are broken, ur argument with me will be short and sweet. Btw, the quoted post seems to have been deleted. All arguments with you are short and sweet, I deleted my post because I didn't want one and I figured that would start one
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Post by Owe on Jul 14, 2017 1:09:00 GMT
I'm going to be honest I used to think that Light Green Eggs were a bug knowing it's legitimate however makes me want to use it... because it's broken. That being said... most everything in iruna is broken because of the crazy things you can do with equipment combination. But lge isn't overwhelmingly "OP" imo. First off the revive only keeps you at 1 hp and the boss keeps hate on you, meaning it's a guaranteed 1 hit kill the next hit. But probably most important is the problem of item delay. It doesn't magically go to no delay after you die. It's NOT a magical cure all item. Logically you can say that Onigiri or better pots are broken. Without much thought I could make a 80-95% resistance set for a pally and make a 50k damage less than ~5k damage, 100k (yes 100,000 damage on a single hit) less than ~10k damage (and I'm talking from the low end, at 80% not 95%) an easy fix for Onigiri. But there's no complaints for that?? What's the difference?? For both pots there's an innate reliance on gear and skills. Hw and Sins for instance need item delay, Eva+ (all types Magic, abs, and normal) and damage stats in one set while pally, gladis, and BKs for instance need item delay, hp gears, resistance gears and damage stats in one set for this chosen method of surviving. That's just my two cents
All that being said Iruna to me is about doing what YOU want and being the best that you can be within the restraints of the game. I think the Iruna devs have done a great job of balancing and allowing multiple ways to play every class with both solo and party play without cheating. So especially when asobimo approves its legitimacy I lose any qualms I had with the method. But again my two cents XD
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Post by Owe on Jul 14, 2017 2:18:37 GMT
I'm going to be honest I used to think that Light Green Eggs were a bug knowing it's legitimate however makes me want to use it... because it's broken. That being said... most everything in iruna is broken because of the crazy things you can do with equipment combination. But lge isn't overwhelmingly "OP" imo. First off the revive only keeps you at 1 hp and the boss keeps hate on you, meaning it's a guaranteed 1 hit kill the next hit. But probably most important is the problem of item delay. It doesn't magically go to no delay after you die. It's NOT a magical cure all item. Logically you can say that Onigiri or better pots are broken. Without much thought I could make a 80-95% resistance set for a pally and make a 50k damage less than ~5k damage, 100k (yes 100,000 damage on a single hit) less than ~10k damage (and I'm talking from the low end, at 80% not 95%) an easy fix for Onigiri. But there's no complaints for that?? What's the difference?? For both pots there's an innate reliance on gear and skills. Hw and Sins for instance need item delay, Eva+ (all types Magic, abs, and normal) and damage stats in one set while pally, gladis, and BKs for instance need item delay, hp gears, resistance gears and damage stats in one set for this chosen method of surviving. That's just my two cents Btw you say that your issue is that it's broken because it fixes a "non survival build" but I say that you need to tailor your build to properly use it in the first place, so therefore you're basing your survival on lges like you would be basing your survival on resistances for instance.
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jul 14, 2017 3:26:48 GMT
I'm going to be honest I used to think that Light Green Eggs were a bug knowing it's legitimate however makes me want to use it... because it's broken. That being said... most everything in iruna is broken because of the crazy things you can do with equipment combination. But lge isn't overwhelmingly "OP" imo. First off the revive only keeps you at 1 hp and the boss keeps hate on you, meaning it's a guaranteed 1 hit kill the next hit. But probably most important is the problem of item delay. It doesn't magically go to no delay after you die. It's NOT a magical cure all item. Logically you can say that Onigiri or better pots are broken. Without much thought I could make a 80-95% resistance set for a pally and make a 50k damage less than ~5k damage, 100k (yes 100,000 damage on a single hit) less than ~10k damage (and I'm talking from the low end, at 80% not 95%) an easy fix for Onigiri. But there's no complaints for that?? What's the difference?? For both pots there's an innate reliance on gear and skills. Hw and Sins for instance need item delay, Eva+ (all types Magic, abs, and normal) and damage stats in one set while pally, gladis, and BKs for instance need item delay, hp gears, resistance gears and damage stats in one set for this chosen method of surviving. That's just my two cents Btw you say that your issue is that it's broken because it fixes a "non survival build" but I say that you need to tailor your build to properly use it in the first place, so therefore you're basing your survival on lges like you would be basing your survival on resistances for instance. You've obviously never watched any of Riku's vids...
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Post by Owe on Jul 14, 2017 4:10:45 GMT
You've obviously never watched any of Riku's vids... Not that it matters but I have seen the videos where he used to use lges lol but anyway what makes you say that??
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jul 14, 2017 4:12:20 GMT
Not that it matters but I have seen the videos where he used to use lges lol but anyway what makes you say that?? Dude gobbled those LGE like a pally smashes the sp rev ale. Only way he could survive those bosses was by spamming those LGE
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Post by Owe on Jul 14, 2017 4:32:48 GMT
Dude gobbled those LGE like a pally smashes the sp rev ale. Only way he could survive those bosses was by spamming those LGE I mean then what's the difference if a pally needs to use sp revita ales and an assassin needs to use lges lol. Pallys get to survive a little longer and so does an assassin from using a consumable item
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jul 14, 2017 4:53:09 GMT
Dude gobbled those LGE like a pally smashes the sp rev ale. Only way he could survive those bosses was by spamming those LGE I mean then what's the difference if a pally needs to use sp revita ales and an assassin needs to use lges lol. Pallys get to survive a little longer and so does an assassin from using a consumable item I was just responding to your comment asking how they even achieve anything when you just revive with 1hp >_>
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Post by Owe on Jul 14, 2017 5:12:16 GMT
I was just responding to your comment asking how they even achieve anything when you just revive with 1hp >_> I'm sorry I misunderstood xD, but yeah to me it's practically the same concept... spam those pots for survival *^*
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jul 14, 2017 5:18:19 GMT
I was just responding to your comment asking how they even achieve anything when you just revive with 1hp >_> I'm sorry I misunderstood xD, but yeah to me it's practically the same concept... spam those pots for survival *^* Which you can avoid if you dedicate as much time as asteg has to understanding the mechanics of equip. Him and lacs with his knowledge of everything island and pets are the only pals ik that barely use a fraction of the pots I would use. Which wouldn't be so many if I just did my own research >_> But yea, LGE idk why we still have when they fixed what was basically exactly the same thing from that mins song.
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jul 14, 2017 11:12:19 GMT
I'm sorry I misunderstood xD, but yeah to me it's practically the same concept... spam those pots for survival *^* Which you can avoid if you dedicate as much time as asteg has to understanding the mechanics of equip. Him and lacs with his knowledge of everything island and pets are the only pals ik that barely use a fraction of the pots I would use. Which wouldn't be so many if I just did my own research >_> But yea, LGE idk why we still have when they fixed what was basically exactly the same thing from that mins song. not exactly same effects the LGE takes your hp gives mp and gives you revival which is intended by the developers of asobimo(((doesn`t the answer given by AianLacruzel who was also a hardcore till the end skeptic like yourself when i told everyone in my perfect fusion high wizard guide i made that LGE`s revival was intended effect by asobimo when i asked asobimo about LGE effect before the argument that went from page 7 to 9 when they finally concede with LGE revival effect being legitimate after asking asobimo themself that gave rise to this thread in the first place satisfy your suspicion wether LGE was legitimate or not already???here is the argument starting from page 7 to page 9 irunaonline.boards.net/thread/27009/smartmage-high-wizard-guide?page=7 also important thing to understand Asobimo Clearly Stated If You Had Experience Contacting Them Before That They Do Not Allow Posting Their Response By Screenshot As Have Been Explained By AianLacruzel When They Answered In Place Of Asobimo Their Response About LGE's Legitimacy For Everyone Who Are To Be Wondering If The Effects Are Legitimate Or Not With The Thread To Provide The Answers In A Way That Does Not Violate Asobimos Rule Of Not Post Screenshot (which would have been done if asobimo allows it which would have settled this case without any questions long ago already))) while the joy and sorrow gives mp hp and the revive on joy and sorrow was abolished quickly after release as the developers most likely realized soon after release of the skill the revival on the skill was not intended by them and that aside it is a skill not a pot which would otherwise prove not feasible after a few high tier boss kills or lack of if you attempt to farm the high tier bosses with it so basically a skill (((if the revival of the skill was not nullified due to its unintended revival by programming mistake that only surfaced to the developers eyes soon after the skill released))) that revives you and doesnt force you to farm for long time to get few stacks that would easily be eaten through quickly by high tier bosses((example episode 4 bosses and beyond)) is ridiculously overpowered in terms of feasibility compared to the LGE you have to farm for long time to get hard uncommon drop stacks only for all those pots stacks you probably either worked hard to obtain or bought with hard earned spina from people who worked hard to get those hard uncommon stacks you buy to be eaten through rather extremely quickly by high tier bosses your trying to farm in very few to 15 to 20 something at most high tier boss kills ^^
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