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Post by imnoob on Jun 7, 2017 16:24:27 GMT
Good day! So I wanted to make a counter servant, yeah a fire bending servant xD since ninigi is already out. Just wanted to know if its counter is stronger or weaker than minela. If it's stronger than minela's counter then I'll make a fire counter set and I need you're help on what equipment should I use. But if it's weaker then water counter is the one ill go.
Water counter set (if I'm right with eq) Freesia rod/gerust or frederico (if counter rate is affected by auto+%) Struggler/ minela Snow Earmuffs/ dunk2 or pole? For spec idk xD
For fire counter set I need you to help me xD
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Post by imnoob on Jun 7, 2017 16:27:01 GMT
Idk how to edit my post so I'll just reply here. I forgot to ask what stats would be viable for counter servant TY
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Post by bikini on Jun 7, 2017 16:28:51 GMT
pramia reup, and other equip ifrit. but strugg boost dont work with claws
Sage reup ifrit, emido reup ifrit (strugg ifrit with fire sword). spec with agira or element spec. Int dex vit and some agi for max aspd.
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Post by pingrek on Jun 7, 2017 16:34:07 GMT
For fire counter set I would go with tokoyo no mihitaki/ninigi, struggler up/ninigi, sage hat reup/ninigi, and spec ninigi, I don't know how strong it is so I'm not sure if it's really viable yet but if it is as strong as water counter then that is the set I would use, as for stats int/dex/vit or int/vit/dex would be the stats I would recommend
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Post by imnoob on Jun 7, 2017 17:00:53 GMT
For fire counter set I would go with tokoyo no mihitaki/ninigi, struggler up/ninigi, sage hat reup/ninigi, and spec ninigi, I don't know how strong it is so I'm not sure if it's really viable yet but if it is as strong as water counter then that is the set I would use, as for stats int/dex/vit or int/vit/dex would be the stats I would recommend Oh tysm for info, search for tokoyo stats and it's a perfect rod for fire counter + sage hat reup will boost more dmg. I think i'll wait first for someone to confirm if ninigi's counter is as strong as water counter qwq not that rich to try all builds xD. And do you know if counter is affected by autoskill+% just like offenssive autos?
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Post by pingrek on Jun 7, 2017 17:05:24 GMT
For fire counter set I would go with tokoyo no mihitaki/ninigi, struggler up/ninigi, sage hat reup/ninigi, and spec ninigi, I don't know how strong it is so I'm not sure if it's really viable yet but if it is as strong as water counter then that is the set I would use, as for stats int/dex/vit or int/vit/dex would be the stats I would recommend Oh tysm for info, search for tokoyo stats and it's a perfect rod for fire counter + sage hat reup will boost more dmg. I think i'll wait first for someone to confirm if ninigi's counter is as strong as water counter qwq not that rich to try all builds xD. And do you know if counter is affected by autoskill+% just like offenssive autos? All autoskills can be boosted by autoskill% unless it is stated on the equip like pierrot hats has only 1% chance of activating one of it's multiple autos, and even if ninigi isn't exactly as strong as minela the shear amount of Fire magic+% should make up for the difference because with four ninigi crystas will give 40% fire magic, tokoyo gives I think 20%, and sage hat re up has 11% giving a grand total of 71% just from gear and the crystas then add in a rua and rua2 al crysta will boost it to 86% fire magic, and I think there is a spec equip called weasel cylinder that boost fire magic a little I think just enough to get 90% fire magic so it should get close to if not higher damage than minela and the water counters Edit: I forgot about sauro II al crysta as well so 90% fire magic can be achieved if you get a weasel cylinder slotted with ninigi
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jun 7, 2017 23:58:26 GMT
Oh tysm for info, search for tokoyo stats and it's a perfect rod for fire counter + sage hat reup will boost more dmg. I think i'll wait first for someone to confirm if ninigi's counter is as strong as water counter qwq not that rich to try all builds xD. And do you know if counter is affected by autoskill+% just like offenssive autos? All autoskills can be boosted by autoskill% unless it is stated on the equip like pierrot hats has only 1% chance of activating one of it's multiple autos, and even if ninigi isn't exactly as strong as minela the shear amount of Fire magic+% should make up for the difference because with four ninigi crystas will give 40% fire magic, tokoyo gives I think 20%, and sage hat re up has 11% giving a grand total of 71% just from gear and the crystas then add in a rua and rua2 al crysta will boost it to 86% fire magic, and I think there is a spec equip called weasel cylinder that boost fire magic a little I think just enough to get 90% fire magic so it should get close to if not higher damage than minela and the water counters Edit: I forgot about sauro II al crysta as well so 90% fire magic can be achieved if you get a weasel cylinder slotted with ninigi for spec how about this ones Fire God's Ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Fire element additional Fire element magic UP Fire R +8% Fire Ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Adds Fire element. Fire magic damage up. Flame ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Adds Fire element, Fire magic damage up, Fire R +5% as for armor u can also try lava mail reup for another fire lance counter
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Post by pingrek on Jun 8, 2017 0:07:38 GMT
All autoskills can be boosted by autoskill% unless it is stated on the equip like pierrot hats has only 1% chance of activating one of it's multiple autos, and even if ninigi isn't exactly as strong as minela the shear amount of Fire magic+% should make up for the difference because with four ninigi crystas will give 40% fire magic, tokoyo gives I think 20%, and sage hat re up has 11% giving a grand total of 71% just from gear and the crystas then add in a rua and rua2 al crysta will boost it to 86% fire magic, and I think there is a spec equip called weasel cylinder that boost fire magic a little I think just enough to get 90% fire magic so it should get close to if not higher damage than minela and the water counters Edit: I forgot about sauro II al crysta as well so 90% fire magic can be achieved if you get a weasel cylinder slotted with ninigi for spec how about this ones Fire God's Ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Fire element additional Fire element magic UP Fire R +8% Fire Ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Adds Fire element. Fire magic damage up. Flame ring [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 Adds Fire element, Fire magic damage up, Fire R +5% as for armor u can also try lava mail reup for another fire lance counter I forgot about fire gods ring, I think it gives 12%fire magic so then 40% from ninigi crystas, 20% from tokoyo, 11% from sage hat reup, 12% from fire gods ring, 18% from rua, rua2, and sauro2 al crystas for a grand total of 101% fire magic if I did my math correctly and if fire gods ring actually gives 12%, and I would choose struggler up because it will give more matk and damage plus it doesn't have an auto so you can have ninigi for it's own auto and the fire magic%
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Post by imnoob on Jun 8, 2017 2:19:22 GMT
Since it's affected by autoskill+%, having a purple lines on apos will be good right? Then i'll use halios al and cordal and sauro II for more auto+% with this al and sage hat i'll only have 17% autoskill+% . Does purple linea worth using than cyan? Cause Idk how much auto+% does purple lines giive.
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Post by pingrek on Jun 8, 2017 3:01:37 GMT
Since it's affected by autoskill+%, having a purple lines on apos will be good right? Then i'll use halios al and cordal and sauro II for more auto+% with this al and sage hat i'll only have 17% autoskill+% . Does purple linea worth using than cyan? Cause Idk how much auto+% does purple lines giive. Purple lines do increase autoskill rate but it also boosts aspd and crit rate so if your going for pure counter then the aspd can interfere with spamming heal or clone, as for amount of autoskill 6 purple lines is supposed to give I'm not sure, but if you plan on using those three al crystas don't forget rua and rua2 for more fire magic of you do go for ninigi
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Post by sandimailana on Jun 11, 2017 12:28:20 GMT
Damage m.counter from ninigi is low.still better minela. Btw if u can use m.counter type fire ( meteor ) or type earth ( earth pike ),u can use hydrangea hat green ( earth ),hydrangea hat pink ( fire ) M.counter from hydrangea hat give high damage
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Post by sandimailana on Jun 11, 2017 12:29:36 GMT
25k m.counter
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Post by Pixie on Jun 15, 2017 2:12:38 GMT
hydrangea hat only good for june tho?
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Post by sandimailana on Jun 15, 2017 4:50:42 GMT
Hydrangea hat ( matk-20%,delay-0,5s,mpc-50%.add matk+10% on juni )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:12:02 GMT
Bumping this instead of creating a new thread ><
I just want to ask if that full ninigi setup is worth getting o.o it looks nice vs bw ouo
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