badeko
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Post by badeko on May 28, 2014 21:40:07 GMT
Quick questions jus need answers to
How much aspd wud i need for claw using enchanter to hit max aspd
How much dex or cspd wud claw ench need to cast drain ' instantly '
Also i wanna use crt but i have no idea how crt works, so whats the difference between the stat :CRT and a item that says crt rate +(#/%) Id like to know what crt rate +% means as well as +(#)
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 21:51:56 GMT
answer 1: aspd = same as sword answer 2: dex = no specific info but you already know that claw ench max dex & int or your magic wont do noticeable damage. answer 3: crt will increase overall rate & damage but crt rate only increase the occurrence of crt. crt+# is better than crt+%.
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badeko
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Post by badeko on May 28, 2014 22:09:27 GMT
Thanks so much for quick reply ^_^
One more question about this crt thing
Im tryna get myself to crt dam near evertime i swing my claws around
Is there anyway i can figure out the math when it comes to this? Like (on item) +10 crt rate would be the same as crt 10 stat? So crt1 + ( item w +10 crt rate) = crt10 so thatd be like 3.33% crt right? ( evrry 3 point of crt = 1% crt chance?)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 22:39:07 GMT
nobody may answer how crt rate+# works but crt rate+# do occur more than crt rate+% even at 200 crt. 1% chance every 3 point of crt. the way to stable crt is to dump your points to it up to 200 points. by doing do, you use too much point just for accuracy while your magic still under par. which is why crt dont mix with claw for enchanter.
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on May 28, 2014 23:23:20 GMT
nail max aspd is 343. and here's the crt rate and dmg formula thingy
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 23:35:11 GMT
nail max aspd is 343. and here's the crt rate and dmg formula thingy thank you. just need to explain this in a more human way.
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on May 28, 2014 23:58:47 GMT
nail max aspd is 343. and here's the crt rate and dmg formula thingy thank you. just need to explain this in a more human way. the % part is easily understandable, i think the flat crit rates are affected by your current crit rate, let's say you have +30 crt rate and you have 150 crt (55%) : if i'm not stupid the math would be 30x55:100 =16.5 which i suppose is 16.5% so in total you have 55+16.5 = 71.5% note: this is something i threw out of speculation.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 0:10:24 GMT
Think of every 10 CRT rate as 30 points of crt, and every 1 crt rate as 3 crt state points, and vice versa.
I dont think you could ever cast drain instantly with a claw. Thats an assumption, but ive proven with my apr.enchanter that drain casts faster with a staff than any other weapon, and with my high wizard that has drain lvl 2 and max dex cannot cast drain instantly with a claw like it can with a staff.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on May 29, 2014 4:13:04 GMT
195 crt or crt rate +65 for every single hit as crt.
135 agi for max aspd.
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Post by tasm on May 29, 2014 4:16:16 GMT
thank you. just need to explain this in a more human way. the % part is easily understandable, i think the flat crit rates are affected by your current crit rate, let's say you have +30 crt rate and you have 150 crt (55%) : if i'm not stupid the math would be 30x55:100 =16.5 which i suppose is 16.5% so in total you have 55+16.5 = 71.5% note: this is something i threw out of speculation. no. +30 crt rate is same as 90 Crt. crt rate % is based upon current crt rate. crt rate + just give crt rate directly. For example, at 135 crt, crt rate 10% gives only 5 crt rate. 195 crt, it gives 7 crt rate... maximum crt rate at 256 crt should be 95 rate. But, crt is set so that 100% crt rate is impossible. At about 70-85+ crt rate, there is no noticeable difference in trigger rates. Only difference will be dmg from adding crt. Maximum crt modifier for dmg is about 4x. Every 57 crt is approximately .5x modifier. so maximum modifier is (1.5x + 2.4...x = near 4x).
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 4:23:06 GMT
easy say than more confusion, i am an enchanter, i use claw apart from my main cane & i have tons of crt. find me in game and we'll discuss your question by how crt performs. its not useful to use claw for enchanter if you're not maxing agi.
with the same stat for both weapon which is max int, 135 agi & the rest to crt;
with sword you survive normally, deal damage normally, hit normally.
with claw: you survive normally, deal damage poorly, hit normally.
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Post by tasm on May 29, 2014 4:31:06 GMT
well there's enchantment passive.
256 agi, low int (about 100) won't give much more atk than 180 agi, cap int.
both max is good dmg, but we need around lv 240+ to max 3 stat. (int/agi/crt)
edit..
forum bugging =.o ... but by part 3 knives and mwand will be superior to claw. so it seems like decent build, but its already a dying build. at the moment we obtain illness hit, i can bet you 20m spina that the build will be completely obsolete.
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Post by ManaKhe on May 29, 2014 7:18:12 GMT
Claw Enchanters should use DEX over CRT. CRT will work way better with Flabellum than with claws.
Also you basically need max DEX with Claw or Sword to insta cast Drain.
I don't understand why max AGI is necessary for a Claw Enchanter at all. You aren't really relying on your regular attacks damage so it would only be for EVA really. Also Claw Enchanters need really good gear to do good damage along with Spellboost.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 7:39:30 GMT
Claw Enchanters should use DEX over CRT. CRT will work way better with Flabellum than with claws. Also you basically need max DEX with Claw or Sword to insta cast Drain. I don't understand why max AGI is necessary for a Claw Enchanter at all. You aren't really relying on your regular attacks damage so it would only be for EVA really. Also Claw Enchanters need really good gear to do good damage along with Spellboost. the concept of claw enchanter is evasion. that is the only reason why ones consider building a claw enchanter. if you subtract the evasion from the equation, you are left with nothing. say we're using spellboost with max DEX so 45 second. the problem with VIT is, for a quick hitting boss, you will need to recast stoneskin after 5-7 hits while spellboost active and you know the MP consumption yourself. on the other hand, with AGI for claw, you wont need to recast stoneskin too often while spellboost active because you evade some of his attack thus you're not drying your MP pool. for claw case, AGI is just better. that's all.
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Post by koutetsu on May 29, 2014 11:14:12 GMT
im totally lost....30 crt rate = 90 CRT? so means lost knight sword that give crt rate +100 = 300 CRT? so i can keep CRT 1? while max str max dex & rest vit? my bad...
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