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Post by 'AhSaN' on May 29, 2017 12:26:41 GMT
Hello guys^^ I need your help again! I am a Lv.265 Minstrel. My Build is AGI CRT STR VIT and a little INT. My ATK unbuffed is 1500. But I can't decide which one I can go for more damage.
Shall it be Veleno Rosa? or it would be Dragnewt Spam?
Well I made some a Set on my mind of Dragnewt Spam and Veleno Rosa set. I'm listling them bellow :
Veleno Rosa Set
Ceduro + V.Rosa Tech Lv.5
D.Mail + V.Rosa Autoskill Lv.3
Huge Cherry Blossom + Raton Autoskill Lv.5
Accessory Autoskill Lv.4
Ring of Rush + V.Rosa Rate Cut Lv.5
Dragnewt Set
Purity Claw + Grapagos
Ultimi + Cerberus
Daiginjo [Holiday] + Raton
Ring of Rush + Beelzenoid
Al Crysta : Cheltil, Maelriel, Sauro II
So, according to @aizurin in a thread i made, she said that i'd need 3 Second or 3.5 Second for a smooth Dragnewt Delay. So it has 4 Second Delay, which is pretty good in my opinion.
So, my path of choosing the right equipment stands here. Which one would deal high more damage. Veleno Rosa or Dragnewt? Also, please fix some of the equipment choices i made. Thank you^~^
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:00:09 GMT
 I been tagged Wait you got 2 RORS? So op.  Actually both Veleno set and Dragonewt set are usable and situational as well. For veleno set... I prefer Veleno set while Dual Blow while solo grinding/while waiting for party call at Thirds Eyes, Yarde, or Baum since it is much better option fast and safe kill despite damage slightly lower than spamming Dragonewt. Veleno Set also good if you farming certain boss that doesn't dealing ailment. However Veleno set won't do any good if you rely on "Sandstorm Song" against certain boss. As for your Veleno set... I just wonder why use Dragonmail Veleno instead of using Ira ReUp Veleno? Is it Veleno autoskill will cancel out Dragonmail autoskill? (correct me if wrong) Also what are you using to get self into poison? For Dragonewt set Dragonewt set is good when you solo farm/party farm. Solo farm while spamming Dragonewt are risky compare to using Veleno Set. However Dragonewt set do excellence party damage especially when party with DPS class such as claw monk, gladiator, beast knight, samurai, claw ninja or even dps minstrel but kinda weak party damage when in common party formation SK, Zero and Bish. As for your Dragonewt Set Maybe you can replace Ultimi Cerberus to Ultimi Dorry to add some more atk% for more damage if you decide to keep Daiginjo. or you may replace Daiginjo to either; Separation Arrow Up Raton (with only -10%hp but it come with -0.6sec delay, atk% and crit dmg%) or Force Helm ReUp Raton Q.C5(with risk of +Hate but it come with Magic and Melee resistances, atk% and crit dmg%) If you decide to use either of the add above you may switch Ultimi Cerberus right away to Ira Dorry since it give better atk% and crit dmg%. You may add some quick cool abilities if you feel spamming Dragonewt aren't smooth. So I can't really help you to decide between both set since I got both Veleno Set and Dragonewt set and several other set for my convenience during solo and party. However I can conclude that once your stat high enough Dragonewt will deal much higher damage than Veleno just a bit late in game based on my experience.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on May 29, 2017 16:31:46 GMT
@aizurin
I am using Aconitum to keep myself poisoned.
I chose D.Mail Veleno instead of Ira because Ira's Physical Resistance Minus really hurts me a lot. I die in 3 hits on a Lv.250 Boss for that. Also because d.mail's not xtrade i can easily trade between my chars xP.
However, Would Ira ReUp would be very powerful?
And... Wait! What? Sandstorm song is released already?? Who sells it!
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Post by pingrek on May 29, 2017 16:33:35 GMT
. As for your Veleno set... I just wonder why use Dragonmail Veleno instead of using Ira ReUp Veleno? Is it Veleno autoskill will cancel out Dragonmail autoskill? (correct me if wrong) Yes veleno will consume dmail auto, and as for the reason why they use dmail instead of ira is that even though ira has higher damage it also has -25% melee resistance which depending on the mob that they are grinding can increase damage taken to dangerous levels, while dmail has +6%? Melee and magic resistance which will lower damage taken from any mob making it the safer of the two armors to use |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:54:48 GMT
@aizurin I am using Aconitum to keep myself poisoned. I chose D.Mail Veleno instead of Ira because Ira's Physical Resistance Minus really hurts me a lot. I die in 3 hits on a Lv.250 Boss for that. Also because d.mail's not xtrade i can easily trade between my chars xP. However, Would Ira ReUp would be very powerful? And... Wait! What? Sandstorm song is released already?? Who sells it! I see. Indeed aconitum really useful for self poison which also around 30s Oh ok keep using D.Mail then. Not sure if Schwermer up is good or not compare to D.Mail. I kinda want to use Schwermer since Ira does hurt if fight boss with high crit damage and good accuracy, however I love gambling on surviving with Ira, Ultimi is my second option. Sandstorm available at Merchant Eldan |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on May 29, 2017 17:23:27 GMT
Well, Would focusing on Dragnewt set be a good option? Veleno set is pretty expensive and i only got Dmail Veleno. Also i would be able to mix my SD set with it. What do u think guys?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 0:05:36 GMT
Well, Would focusing on Dragnewt set be a good option? Veleno set is pretty expensive and i only got Dmail Veleno. Also i would be able to mix my SD set with it. What do u think guys? If you party a lot, go for Dragonewt set then since skill spamming always greater than auto attacking for most class. However if you feeling want to auto attacking instead of using Veleno set, keep the Huge Cherry Blossom around and You may use Wyn on Ring of Rush instead of Beelzanoid so you can use it in both Dragonewt and auto if you got 1RORS. Veleno set is an optional set just to improve auto attacking. |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on May 30, 2017 16:42:53 GMT
Well I using Dclaw, Ira, Daiginjo n' RoR (All empty slot) ended up dealing 27k dmg to Yarde with Passion n' Nostalgia. Is it normal around my lvl? (265)
And, can anyone give where are actually "nub" minstrels are kinda needed? I am having really problems farming stuffs so i need "nub Mins wanted" farming parties lol. Or you could actually give me the best stuffs to solo. I can solo bosses unbuffed untill Selee Zauga 2. Thank you ^~^/
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 23:12:00 GMT
Not sure but I guess normal since xtalless and yarde high def?. I was dealing up to 70k Dragonewt on baum when I was around 260++. That was before yarde exist. Just Maniji cerberus, Ira Dorry, HCB Raton, Dnewt Bangle Wol with max str agi crit while slowly add vit up to 100. Was nub also that time.
As for looking for party, just prepare you buff set. Violafar, Exelis, EDW and argent as starter with some quick cool, metalbrow. make your delay for buff as smooth as possible w/o bish quick buff.
As for solo farming, I used to farm cerberus and ganei just to make spina at that level however that was during no phrase system and only 3 buff song. Nowaday you need to find out which boss xtal or abi hardly people farm especially with ailment since minstrel got sandstorm now and up to 4 song.
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on May 31, 2017 11:54:25 GMT
Eh, never cross my mind a mins doing with Veleno, interesting. One that cross my mins when seeing this thread with Veleno is, Blume Gift, idk what category is that gear be it Special Equip, Weapon nor even Add Gear. However stats looks promising if it's either Special or Add :
Poison Damage+10%, Critical Up, Self Poison Chance by Attack
Means, if you're going Veleno, this gear looks so legit in combined to
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Post by 'AhSaN' on May 31, 2017 12:32:36 GMT
Eh, never cross my mind a mins doing with Veleno, interesting. One that cross my mins when seeing this thread with Veleno is, Blume Gift, idk what category is that gear be it Special Equip, Weapon nor even Add Gear. However stats looks promising if it's either Special or Add : Poison Damage+10%, Critical Up, Self Poison Chance by Attack Means, if you're going Veleno, this gear looks so legit in combined to Well as an Ex-Monk I do know which equipment is the best for Veleno Set lol. And most people turn to Minstrel to just ride on the levels, making minstrel just buff players n' sit, making it a lazy class. But permanent minstrels? It's very common to try out new sets! (This is kinda old as i've see Aizurin and Yuri doing Veleno Rosa set).  |
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jun 13, 2017 12:42:21 GMT
Hmm, I'm confused.
Does Dragonewt Song ever Crit? I cant seem to remember if it could crit.
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Post by pingrek on Jun 13, 2017 13:13:37 GMT
Hmm, I'm confused. Does Dragonewt Song ever Crit? I cant seem to remember if it could crit. It can't crit, but it is based on the damage you do so that includes critical damage |
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Jun 17, 2017 17:56:25 GMT
Hmm, I'm confused. Does Dragonewt Song ever Crit? I cant seem to remember if it could crit. It can't crit, but it is based on the damage you do so that includes critical damage Actually it does, when dragonewt crits it gives your highest dmg output however when it's not crits it does same dmg lv as your dps (example you're doing 15k dps and 50k dragonewt dmg, when not crits it only doing about 15k dragonewt dmg) |
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