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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 15:41:10 GMT
I'll try it on my monk, ninja and samu and see what I can find ijus o.o/
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Post by UIRepth on Feb 24, 2017 17:48:07 GMT
im pretty sure nasturtium damage deal around 3x white damage. and somehow crt hit will give extra damage(i test it with samurai using both nasturtium and showy bangle). my samurai normal attack 4.5k add attack 8.2k, critical 9.8k add attack 12.3k(im using el avenir+0, and shushiwa). if im using AC my critical will be slightly higher than add attack.(prettty sure as well that add attack doesnt stack with melee +(event givd 2k melee that why your attack higher i guess)). Nasturtium add attack can hit over 20k with samurai so i dont think there a cap for it. i saw some1 sell ceduro+7 s for 140m at rkk like 4-5h ago?
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Post by nic123 on Feb 24, 2017 18:46:10 GMT
The poison itself are weak. Each time it trigger it had a recoil effect either based on damage or hp %. Aconitum definitely going to kill my monk. I bought and tried it. A single dual blow and i lose 30% if my hp.the poison dmg was just 219,the recoil effect(shown in greenish effect) must have a recoil effect x.x idk if ur mistaken or had somthing else on o.o, i used acotanium fine with no recoil o.o, poison was around 129, after poison i swap to ror veleno |
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Post by Zycron on Feb 24, 2017 19:30:00 GMT
What's the price on veleno?
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Post by ijus on Feb 24, 2017 20:22:36 GMT
The poison itself are weak. Each time it trigger it had a recoil effect either based on damage or hp %. Aconitum definitely going to kill my monk. I bought and tried it. A single dual blow and i lose 30% if my hp.the poison dmg was just 219,the recoil effect(shown in greenish effect) must have a recoil effect x.x idk if ur mistaken or had somthing else on o.o, i used acotanium fine with no recoil o.o, poison was around 129, after poison i swap to ror veleno Nothing out of ordinary, ceduro raguel,boo wyn,huge cherry raton & aconitum..still losing my hp fast x.x i dun swap it out..funny thing i die with the setup while using rush XD im ditching that stuff x.x Veleno should be around 150 atm o.o/ |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 20:33:09 GMT
im pretty sure nasturtium damage deal around 3x white damage. and somehow crt hit will give extra damage(i test it with samurai using both nasturtium and showy bangle). my samurai normal attack 4.5k add attack 8.2k, critical 9.8k add attack 12.3k(im using el avenir+0, and shushiwa). if im using AC my critical will be slightly higher than add attack.(prettty sure as well that add attack doesnt stack with melee +(event givd 2k melee that why your attack higher i guess)). Nasturtium add attack can hit over 20k with samurai so i dont think there a cap for it. i saw some1 sell ceduro+7 s for 140m at rkk like 4-5h ago?
Nasturtium does have a soft cap. There's a thread that had a discussion about it. I couldn't find the thread but I'll tag once I do. |
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Post by Zycron on Feb 24, 2017 22:09:39 GMT
So the veleno build is good just have to have a constant stock of poison dango pots eh?
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Post by nic123 on Feb 24, 2017 23:09:24 GMT
So the veleno build is good just have to have a constant stock of poison dango pots eh? lemmesee if i find a video, i swear acotanium was working great with this build xD, |
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Post by nic123 on Feb 24, 2017 23:20:29 GMT
idk if ur mistaken or had somthing else on o.o, i used acotanium fine with no recoil o.o, poison was around 129, after poison i swap to ror veleno Nothing out of ordinary, ceduro raguel,boo wyn,huge cherry raton & aconitum..still losing my hp fast x.x i dun swap it out..funny thing i die with the setup while using rush XD im ditching that stuff x.x Veleno should be around 150 atm o.o/ for guy who made thread heres link o.o also ijus this guy is using acotanium just fine, no die, idk what ur problem was tho lol, i never had a prob with it, instead of keeping endless posion dango, acontanium is spec that poison by auto |
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Post by bikini on Feb 24, 2017 23:21:35 GMT
i no confuse, dont know dia stats, but i like daiginjo damage and 12% auto skill that made more sb
i saw up to 24k additional damage to yarde from wol idk if capped.
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Post by ijus on Feb 25, 2017 0:10:43 GMT
I dun want to argue. Get a claw,an adventure suit,an hachigane & an aconitum & experience it for yourself *-*)/
Anyone can help clarify this would be most welcome \(*.*)/
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Post by nic123 on Feb 25, 2017 0:18:02 GMT
I dun want to argue. Get a claw,an adventure suit,an hachigane & an aconitum & experience it for yourself *-*)/ Anyone can help clarify this would be most welcome \(*.*)/ ? sorry??, i was tryna help u figure out ur problem with acotanium.... nothing to argue about, i had a monk to, used acotanium just fine, sent vid of another monk usin acotanium just fine, just wanted to see what ur problem with acotanium was.... sorry if i offended you, goodluck. |
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Post by ijus on Feb 25, 2017 0:48:22 GMT
I dun want to argue. Get a claw,an adventure suit,an hachigane & an aconitum & experience it for yourself *-*)/ Anyone can help clarify this would be most welcome \(*.*)/ ? sorry??, i was tryna help u figure out ur problem with acotanium.... nothing to argue about, i had a monk to, used acotanium just fine, sent vid of another monk usin acotanium just fine, just wanted to see what ur problem with acotanium was.... sorry if i offended you, goodluck. No really o.o i had this setup and and was normal attacking colon outside rokoko and still gets hp reduce due to damage trigger upon poison takes place. So my hypothesis is there is recoil damage( either small % based on ur physical atk or its % hp) present upon activation. It would be nice if someone else can clarify this o.o/ |
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Post by nic123 on Feb 25, 2017 12:19:22 GMT
? sorry??, i was tryna help u figure out ur problem with acotanium.... nothing to argue about, i had a monk to, used acotanium just fine, sent vid of another monk usin acotanium just fine, just wanted to see what ur problem with acotanium was.... sorry if i offended you, goodluck. No really o.o i had this setup and and was normal attacking colon outside rokoko and still gets hp reduce due to damage trigger upon poison takes place. So my hypothesis is there is recoil damage( either small % based on ur physical atk or its % hp) present upon activation. It would be nice if someone else can clarify this o.o/ i deleted monk a bit back for sk nin, but i do have a ninja, tried acotanium on 1 hp no die since i use vaccine poison, so it would appear there is no recoil, this is strange tho @ewpeople did u have recoil with acontanium? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 12:29:40 GMT
No really o.o i had this setup and and was normal attacking colon outside rokoko and still gets hp reduce due to damage trigger upon poison takes place. So my hypothesis is there is recoil damage( either small % based on ur physical atk or its % hp) present upon activation. It would be nice if someone else can clarify this o.o/ i deleted monk a bit back for sk nin, but i do have a ninja, tried acotanium on 1 hp no die since i use vaccine poison, so it would appear there is no recoil, this is strange tho @ewpeople did u have recoil with acontanium?
My guess is when you're poisoned or immune to poison, Aconitum's poison damage eats away at your hp, but wouldn't kill you. It should be poison dmg, but since it doesn't kill, I would categorize it as 'hp cost on attack' instead. It's also definitely not a recoil since recoil kills. Does this make sense? |
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