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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 28, 2014 6:57:25 GMT
I killed 950+ Snowmen for that magic amp and still haven't got a NS... So yea, crappy drop rate. I managed to farm my ns magic amp in 600+ kills with Jar/Currones, so yeah, the drops are crappy to farm a slotted. The good thing is the spawn rate is good with my Pally's guardian so I was able to get it in an hour. I got my enchanter from 1 to 120 via mq upto simcracker over the weekend, hopefully 140 as soon as I finish the rest. I noticed that the attack is very slow despite max ASPD (maybe I just got used to berserk speed), so I'm considering to check out reduce bangle and booster and possibly using both. I tried scarlet ribbon (got me to 600ASPD but still slow and I miss alot despite having 65 crit rate with gear). I don't have the fireworks yet. Is it because of gear or I need to be 140?
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Post by sencka on Jul 28, 2014 7:56:03 GMT
simcracker on armor should give 1% and +1000 hp There's another that gives 1% only, but that isn't worth it. Maybe some others, I can update this post as I find them. ----- However, raising autoskill % on enchanter is a limited development. Our autoskill won't really proc much higher than with draw lvl 2. To increase % requires gear choices which are essentially sacrifices on dps and survivability. So, increasing autoskill % isn't the correct road for enchanter. (This is in my opinion.) If aulis gail isn't proc'ing enough with draw, then maybe it's not a good option. Stack it with Sinbad 2. Better, use a matar xtal somewhere with either aulis gail and/or sinbad equipped. These should increase the proc rate of the evasion buff. (It's the same value of increase on both equipments and the matar xtal.) I don't really get affected in terms of survival, since I can currently Afk kill plenty of mobs above my lv (high ents, Megaroche, Spector, etc) but survival for ench is Def, Mdef, and evasion. Since I already have the two defenses under control, I was gonna build up autoskill chance to boost my evasion as well as my skill activation. Btw, isn't sinbad II the green magic sword that allows you to boost evasion by attack? yes sinbadII can boost eva in 10 sec .. and if you want to tank build i suggest with abilites get wind blessing it also gives dodge rate in 10 sec
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 28, 2014 8:18:00 GMT
I killed 950+ Snowmen for that magic amp and still haven't got a NS... So yea, crappy drop rate. I managed to farm my ns magic amp in 600+ kills with Jar/Currones, so yeah, the drops are crappy to farm a slotted. The good thing is the spawn rate is good with my Pally's guardian so I was able to get it in an hour. I got my enchanter from 1 to 120 via mq upto simcracker over the weekend, hopefully 140 as soon as I finish the rest. I noticed that the attack is very slow despite max ASPD (maybe I just got used to berserk speed), so I'm considering to check out reduce bangle and booster and possibly using both. I tried scarlet ribbon (got me to 600ASPD but still slow and I miss alot despite having 65 crit rate with gear). I don't have the fireworks yet. Is it because of gear or I need to be 140? Good job. Yup, 20 lvls to go and then you can see the magic fly. As for the hit rate, you can't swing any faster than 343 ASPD so anything more than that is useless. Scarlet only helps if you are under 343... I did use to use booster but then I switched to Ceil once that came out. An additional attack was better for me than a faster attack. Reduce bangle does the same thing. Both are fairly cheap/easy to get so you can play around with both and see what fits your needs.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 29, 2014 2:24:47 GMT
I managed to farm y ns magic amp in 600+ kills with Jar/Currones, so yeah, the drps are crappy to farm a slotted. The good thing is the spawn rate is good with my Pally's guardian so I was able to get it in an hour. I got my enchanter from 1 to 120 via mq upto simcracker over the weekend, hopefully 140 as soon as I finish the rest. I noticed that the attack is very slow despite max ASPD (maybe I just got used to berserk speed), so I'm considering to check out reduce bangle and booster and possibly using both. I tried scarlet ribbon (got me to 600ASPD but still slow and I miss alot despite having 65 crit rate with gear). I don't have the fireworks yet. Is it because of gear or I need to be 140? Good job. Yup, 20 lvls to go and then you can see the magic fly. As for the hit rate, you can't swing any faster than 343 ASPD so anything more than that is useless. Scarlet only helps if you are under 343... I did use to use booster but then I switched to Ceil once that came out. An additional attack was better for me than a faster attack. Reduce bangle does the same thing. Both are fairly cheap/easy to get so you can play around with both and see what fits your needs. Stopped at beelzetor mq that landed me to 141. I just realized that drain has a duration (have been spamming It and rev L during my solo mq (I feel so nub). now all I need is to gear up and study proc rates.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 29, 2014 4:29:39 GMT
Good job. Yup, 20 lvls to go and then you can see the magic fly. As for the hit rate, you can't swing any faster than 343 ASPD so anything more than that is useless. Scarlet only helps if you are under 343... I did use to use booster but then I switched to Ceil once that came out. An additional attack was better for me than a faster attack. Reduce bangle does the same thing. Both are fairly cheap/easy to get so you can play around with both and see what fits your needs. Stopped at beelzetor mq that landed me to 141. I just realized that drain has a duration (have been spamming It and rev L during my solo mq (I feel so nub). now all I need is to gear up and study proc rates. Lol @ drain. Proc rates seem to go up with your lvl too. they get pretty stable around 170+. 2-3% autoskill seemed like a waste of gear and xtals so I focused on MATK boosting instead. How are you liking it so far?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 29, 2014 5:02:47 GMT
Stopped at beelzetor mq that landed me to 141. I just realized that drain has a duration (have been spamming It and rev L during my solo mq (I feel so nub). now all I need is to gear up and study proc rates. Lol @ drain. Proc rates seem to go up with your lvl too. they get pretty stable around 170+. 2-3% autoskill seemed like a waste of gear and xtals so I focused on MATK boosting instead. How are you liking it so far? Needs lots of Improvement but so far so good.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 29, 2014 5:20:36 GMT
Give Dia Espada, DPR, Ciel and Spellsword a shot. That will give you 3 chances of manawave plus your enchant. Every attack should have at least 1 thing fire off.
Defensive autoskills trigger more than offensive. I was a tank and used 3 Sofy xtals and those had an amazing trigger rate. But you have to get hit to trigger, so it really depends on your build.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 29, 2014 6:28:40 GMT
Give Dia Espada, DPR, Ciel and Spelsword a shot. That will give you 3 chances of manawave plus your enchanti Every attack should have at least thing fir off. Defensivkills trigger more than offensive. I was a tank and used 3 Sfy xin als and those had an amazing trigger rate. Buyou have to get hit to trigger, so it really depends on your build. 5 Months of boss colon farm Isienuff for me. I swore never to come back there. Im currently using booster dpr reduce and I like what I see so far. The Interval buff procs easily and once It Is on It stays on almost always. The fact that I hit twice faster makes the low proc In magic easily covered. Hopefully with 9% auto In ability, this will proc even better. i still have yet to choose the correct matk xtal between Isu beelzetor gerust dunkelis fg shojo. I need to get more feel on the gameplay before I ultimately decide.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 29, 2014 8:07:05 GMT
dunkelis didn't have any negatives did it? Just +14% MATK right or was it -MP recovery (which doesn't matter)
So 5 Dunkelis would be the way to go. FG are cheap and work grreat. You might be able to manage with 1 Gerust but stacking them would hurt you.
Dunkelis>Isu>Gerust>FG>Shojo - IMO
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 29, 2014 12:48:15 GMT
dunkelis didn't have any negatives did it? Just +14% MATK right or was it -MP recovery (which doesn't matter) So 5 Dunkelis would be the way to go. FG are cheap and work grreat. You might be able to manage with 1 Gerust but stacking them would hurt you. Dunkelis>Isu>Gerust>FG>Shojo - IMO Well I already bought gerust so Ill stick with It for a while. 20% matk Is just too good to let go. Would It be too troublesome to switch Icebook for spellboost and buffs then do amulet gerust when attacking? I only use drain during the fight and I dont need It to cool fast Imo.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 30, 2014 5:37:43 GMT
I have made some runs to check on the activation rates and I ended up being more confused. This is probably because I made a small sample size for statistics so I will need to make more runs probably. Results are:
Wearing Thief garb+booster+reduce
Flabellum (enchant and def buff only) Mob kills: 5 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 88 times Enchant proc: 26 times (26/88 = 29%) Flabellum extra attack: 15 times (15/88 = 17%)
added draw buff Mob kills: 5 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 78 times Enchant proc: 37 times (37/78 = 47%) Flabellum extra attack: 22 times (22/78 = 28%)
Changed Weap to Helshaft (enchant and def buff only) Mob kills: 5 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 100 Enchant proc: 38 times (38/100 = 38%) Helshaft proc: 4 times (4/100 = 4%) Reduce+booster:11 times (11/100 = 11%)
added draw buff Mob kills: 5 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 95 Enchant proc: 37 times (37/95 = 38%) Helshaft proc: 11 (11/95 = 11.5%) Reduce+booster: 30 times (30/95 = 31.5%)
Changed gear to Amulet+DPR up+reduce+booster
Enchant+DEF Mob kills: 10 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 113 Enchant proc: 42 times (42/113 = 37%) Reduce+booster: 35 times (35/113 = 30.9%)
added Draw buff Mob kills: 10 Ghoulies Total attack hits: 110 Enchant proc: 49 times (49/110 = 44.5%) Reduce+booster: 47 times (47/110 = 43.7%)
So far what I can conclude is Flabellum extra attack has better rate than Helshaft magic attack and they are both affected by draw skill
Reduce+booster rate is also affected by draw skill.
I would have concluded that draw and autoskill+ from gear affects Enchant proc but the results from Helshaft makes me think again. Plus manakhe mentioned that Flab extra attack triggers extra autoskill so that might explain why the enchant proc is higher with draw.
So it might seem that Draw does not affect Enchant rate. I need to run more tests as this small sample size makes me scratch my head.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 30, 2014 9:17:28 GMT
^ Nice raw data. I was always too lazy to do something like that. But great for reference. Watch it increase as your level goes up too
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 30, 2014 11:53:10 GMT
^ Nice raw data. I was always too lazy to do sometIing like that. But great for reference. Watch it increaife as your is evel goes up too Results open alot of doors for experimentation for me. Im considering to drop matk gear now to Improve my dps and do alot of unusual stuff. It can be exciting If my hunch Is correct.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 30, 2014 13:15:05 GMT
I have an old booster in storage that I may have to bring back out. Same effect as reduce right? Would be fun to stack those.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 30, 2014 13:51:11 GMT
I have an old booster in storage that I may have to bring back out. Same effect reduce right? Would be fun to stack those. Yes It has similar effects. one lasts 1 second longer but I havent really tested which, because It doesnt really work well if it is alone. But really, I feel that there Is so much more to enchanters than stacking booster with reduce. so much more. But I need to test.
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