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Post by Tyranull on May 25, 2014 2:02:22 GMT
Also when I said that I did research, I was not implying that you didnt, I was saying I know what to do since some people who are new on the game may not have done so. You look too deep in shallow water for things that aren't there man.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 2:33:20 GMT
i know. i'm just trying to boost your passive evasion along with magic tolerance. f claw is not the way to go because you're tanking.
if you really need autoskill then amulet+ is one of if not the best autoskill weapon out there. amulet+ also boost your mdef and probably also the best mdef weapon out there. just not f claw.
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Post by Tyranull on May 25, 2014 3:20:12 GMT
i know. i'm just trying to boost your passive evasion along with magic tolerance. f claw is not the way to go because you're tanking. if you really need autoskill then amulet+ is one of if not the best autoskill weapon out there. amulet+ also boost your mdef and probably also the best mdef weapon out there. just not f claw. Understandable. Doesn't that drop from dracrail? And I plan to sell my f claw unless a new upgrade comes out.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 5:42:15 GMT
i know. i'm just trying to boost your passive evasion along with magic tolerance. f claw is not the way to go because you're tanking. if you really need autoskill then amulet+ is one of if not the best autoskill weapon out there. amulet+ also boost your mdef and probably also the best mdef weapon out there. just not f claw. Understandable. Doesn't that drop from dracrail? And I plan to sell my f claw unless a new upgrade comes out. yes it is the drop from dracrail but only if you upgrade it @ wibo then will it favor your autoskill. a point that might not be very needed but cane enchanter hold monstrous matk too.
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Post by crazybrker on May 25, 2014 10:45:02 GMT
On the original topic, you are looking for an xtal to boost your autoskill, in order to boost the evasion from Aulis. With xtals you can only boost the autoskill by 1-3% .... But you can double the chance of the evasion buff with Matar (preferably on your DPR). A counter autoskill is useless for evasive builds anyways.
Like the others are saying, +1% to autoskill is garbage and a waste of a slot. You are better off with +MATK% or another autoskill altogether... My 2 cents.
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Post by Tyranull on May 25, 2014 11:23:57 GMT
On the original topic, you are looking for an xtal to boost your autoskill, in order to boost the evasion from Aulis. With xtals you can only boost the autoskill by 1-3% .... But you can double the chance of the evasion buff with Matar (preferably on your DPR). A counter autoskill is useless for evasive builds anyways. Like the others are saying, +1% to autoskill is garbage and a waste of a slot. You are better off with +MATK% or another autoskill altogether... My 2 cents. Yeah, I was trying last night and I kinda realized that Aulis keeps activating a lot, but my actual weapon skills did not. That's what happened when I had reduce bangle, and why I switched to lotus seeds, but apparently that made it worse. Maybe if I farm the hairband with star ability, that will solve my problem, or maybe my game is just buggy.
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Post by tasm on May 25, 2014 11:51:03 GMT
ya weapon skills triggers irregularly. It's one of enchanters current weaknesses. It will fix evntually in like level cap 300. lmao. And our dps should skyrocket with weapon skills on every single hit. Then, matk% will matter more. Esp. since our boss solos will change from tanking the boss to using our berserk skill and ko'ing it in 5-10 seconds like gladiator.
The autoskill % helps raise the trigger rate of weaponskills now. but in the long run it's a waste of spina. If you can find someone who won't sell Zidd xtals for some horribly high price over 20m, I'd say it's worth a try though. But if you really want a maximized rate (as high as we can get atm), you will have to make some gear sacrifices.
hairband is 5%, amulet+ is 5%, lotus seed 5%, dpr up 4%
losing one of those 5% to keep aulis gail (or to equip a sinbad II)
Then from there you add the Ziddu xtals. Eventually, you replace hairband with glory cloak.
Automatic stars would be awesome too. (I've noticed that they're hard finds, though.)
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 12:31:01 GMT
my useless future info:
break down the skills for enchanter and see the dps mean of it. i personally dont care about autoskill for some reason below but my main weapon, the amulet+ happen to have autoskill which is nice. okay here goes the reasons to not care about autoskill for long term builds.
at level 240, you'll get your killer dps skill which is cadal alexio slv1. the purpose of this skill is to deal great magic damage which amplify itself. there's a penalty of this but lets put that aside.
at level 260, you'll get your extend slv1 buff which is to enhance your atk & matk along with maximizing your trigger rate. keyword is "maximize autoskill". not "enhance autoskill".
oh it wont stop that early. now combo these 2 skills with monstrous matk of a cane enchanter. i wont regret a single thing.
warning: this type of enchanter only for those who are aware that they're not dealing super damage nor be a super tank while these skills still on hold.
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Post by Tyranull on May 25, 2014 14:15:19 GMT
my useless future info: break down the skills for enchanter and see the dps mean of it. i personally dont care about autoskill for some reason below but my main weapon, the amulet+ happen to have autoskill which is nice. okay here goes the reasons to not care about autoskill for long term builds. at level 240, you'll get your killer dps skill which is cadal alexio slv1. the purpose of this skill is to deal great magic damage which amplify itself. there's a penalty of this but lets put that aside. at level 260, you'll get your extend slv1 buff which is to enhance your atk & matk along with maximizing your trigger rate. keyword is "maximize autoskill". not "enhance autoskill". oh it wont stop that early. now combo these 2 skills with monstrous matk of a cane enchanter. i wont regret a single thing. warning: this type of enchanter only for those who are aware that they're not dealing super damage nor be a super tank while these skills still on hold. Well amulet is taking forever to drop, lol. Been at it for like 6 hours. But I have 2 dark manual II… So only if it is up will make it give autoskill+5%?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 15:54:57 GMT
my useless future info: break down the skills for enchanter and see the dps mean of it. i personally dont care about autoskill for some reason below but my main weapon, the amulet+ happen to have autoskill which is nice. okay here goes the reasons to not care about autoskill for long term builds. at level 240, you'll get your killer dps skill which is cadal alexio slv1. the purpose of this skill is to deal great magic damage which amplify itself. there's a penalty of this but lets put that aside. at level 260, you'll get your extend slv1 buff which is to enhance your atk & matk along with maximizing your trigger rate. keyword is "maximize autoskill". not "enhance autoskill". oh it wont stop that early. now combo these 2 skills with monstrous matk of a cane enchanter. i wont regret a single thing. warning: this type of enchanter only for those who are aware that they're not dealing super damage nor be a super tank while these skills still on hold. Well amulet is taking forever to drop, lol. Been at it for like 6 hours. But I have 2 dark manual II… So only if it is up will make it give autoskill+5%? yes. only if its upgraded.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 22, 2014 2:50:37 GMT
How much autoskill rate can you get? With gear and ability only (maybe a lvl5 and a lvl4)
I recently bought an amulet 2s and considering to build an enchanter. I would have built one long time ago it's just that I never landed on a dia 2s. I have an an acct saving books for months but has no direction on what to be yet so there's nothing certain atm.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 23, 2014 5:37:03 GMT
I think autoskill goes up with lvl. Around lvl 160-180 your autoskill gets pretty stable. Hmm, I don't have any +autoskill gear and my stuff triggers pretty regularly.
Gratz on your amulet! Check out the Staff enchanter thread for the best info for your build. But I would imagine I would do:
INT>AGI>DEX
Sword Amu + Gerust + Gerust Exelis Up + Shojo Aulis Gale + FG Magic Amp + Meza
Wuhahahahahaha. But dont worry you have tons of options. Play around with it and see what you like
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 6:46:01 GMT
I think autoskill goes up with lvl. Around lvl 160-180 your autoskill gets pretty stable. Hmm, I don't have any +autoskill gear and my stuff triggers pretty regularly. Gratz on your amulet! Check out the Staff enchanter thread for the best info for your build. But I would imagine I would do: INT>AGI>DEX Sword Amu + Gerust + Gerust Exelis Up + Shojo Aulis Gale + FG Magic Amp + Meza Wuhahahahahaha. But dont worry you have tons of options. Play around with it and see what you like Yeah, I'm pretty much looking at the same stat build since canes require higher max ASPD (I would have loved to add VIT but since it would eat so much AGI stat, it wouldn't be wise to do so, IMO). I'm really concerned about the "triggers pretty regularly" part, since I would most likely rely on MATK and the autoskill proc for my DPS because my weapon damage is tantamount to nothing. So if I deal magic damage every other attack, that effectively halves my DPS. So far, how I understand it is Enchanters get 10% rate from skill. 5% from amulet. 5% from hairband. %4 from DPR. 9% from lvl5 and lvl4 ability and 5% from lotus. Total of 38%. However, what I don't understand is how it works. I see enchanters do 4 elemental magics, so does it mean that each has 38% chance? And with Dia it would be 5 because of manawave? What I'm trying to achieve is a magic cast 100% of the time (or maybe at least 90%). From there I will be able to select what gear would provide best DPS.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 23, 2014 7:07:34 GMT
Hahaha, so you want that VIT too... So greedy. Just like me. OK you can try my experimental build of INT>AGI>VIT.
That's right, ZERO Dex and Crit. With 0% accuracy you "should" miss most of the time, but with the enchant skill it will make your hits connect regardless of accuracy based on your autoskill rate... Some don't agree but I'll post a video to clear it up.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 7:15:13 GMT
Hahaha, so you want that VIT too... So greedy. Just like me. OK you can try my experimental build of INT>AGI>VIT. That's right, ZERO Dex and Crit. With 0% accuracy you "should" miss most of the time, but with the enchant skill it will make your hits connect regardless of accuracy based on your autoskill rate... Some don't agree but I'll post a video to clear it up. Oh, I didn't know that autoskills proc regardless of hit or miss. Can you confirm this?
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