Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Nov 18, 2016 9:03:35 GMT
With 100 DEF, you are pretty much immune to any physical attack. I used my high wizard to test with Third Eyes. Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 ---------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average 175 damage, 347 critical damage With my regular high wizard gear Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 ------------------------ Total DEF 37 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average of 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage With that said, I think this super refinement is a game changer. Iruna has become too easy now. This just mean that DEF is capped and doesn't give -100% with 100 DEF Thanks for the tests Third eyes hit my pally with 1~50 (90% 1 damage) and their hp percentage attack with ~400 and it's just with low def rate cut set. (This why I still say that def is not worth worrying for as paladin)
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 18, 2016 17:50:23 GMT
With 100 DEF, you are pretty much immune to any physical attack. I used my high wizard to test with Third Eyes. Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 ---------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average 175 damage, 347 critical damage With my regular high wizard gear Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 ------------------------ Total DEF 37 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average of 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage With that said, I think this super refinement is a game changer. Iruna has become too easy now. Thank you so much. Do you mind if I ask what is your def on status page? I am just curious that def will be subtracted before or after calculation of equipment def.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 18, 2016 17:51:09 GMT
With 100 DEF, you are pretty much immune to any physical attack. I used my high wizard to test with Third Eyes. Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 ---------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average 175 damage, 347 critical damage With my regular high wizard gear Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 ------------------------ Total DEF 37 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average of 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage With that said, I think this super refinement is a game changer. Iruna has become too easy now. This just mean that DEF is capped and doesn't give -100% with 100 DEF Thanks for the tests Third eyes hit my pally with 1~50 (90% 1 damage) and their hp percentage attack with ~400 and it's just with low def rate cut set. (This why I still say that def is not worth worrying for as paladin) Look like, the cap is 95 as theory.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 18, 2016 17:58:44 GMT
With 100 DEF, you are pretty much immune to any physical attack. I used my high wizard to test with Third Eyes. Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 ---------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average 175 damage, 347 critical damage With my regular high wizard gear Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 ------------------------ Total DEF 37 + 18 Third eyes hit me with average of 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage With that said, I think this super refinement is a game changer. Iruna has become too easy now. Oh sorry.I just realize Bellow of Order and Sieger Plate also has physical resistance, so def status is subtracted first.Thank you so much for your help. This is very helpful. I don't have to buy accord sword anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 19:33:33 GMT
Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 (Stats Def: 603)
Third Eyes 175 damage, 347 critical damage
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Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 37 + 18 (Stats Def: 527)
Third Eyes: 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage
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Tellas +9 Adventurer Garb DEF 3 Colon Hat DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 4 (Stats Def: 476)
Third Eyes: 4992, 9231 critical damage
Seems like max defense is 97% from looking at the numbers. When my Paladin equips the 100 defense gear, he receives 1 damage from all attacks and criticals. I specifically chose my high wizard to do the test because he doesn't have any innate defense skills.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 19, 2016 0:46:20 GMT
Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 (Stats Def: 603) Third Eyes 175 damage, 347 critical damage ============================================= Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 37 + 18 (Stats Def: 527) Third Eyes: 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage ============================================= Tellas +9 Adventurer Garb DEF 3 Colon Hat DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 4 (Stats Def: 476) Third Eyes: 4992, 9231 critical damage Seems like max defense is 97% from looking at the numbers. When my Paladin equips the 100 defense gear, he receives 1 damage from all attacks and criticals. I specifically chose my high wizard to do the test because he doesn't have any innate defense skills. I thing the max def is 95 because melee resistance. 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) 91.75*5=458.78 (5% of damage) 458.78*0.78=357.85 (0.78 came from Bellow and Sieger Plate, Melee R +22%) The difference between 357.85 by calculation and 347 by testing might be from RNG. That is pretty closed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 6:02:39 GMT
Your numbers come out nicely! Thanks for your correction
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Nov 19, 2016 9:58:21 GMT
Well then let's just wait a boss that does reduce HP&MP to 1 then stun then exhaustion then strike with magic aoe while stunning then super Melee&Magic barrier that makes all damage dealing 1 to them.
Sounds like Sauro 400 😂
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Nov 23, 2016 2:05:25 GMT
so the conclusion is cap of 95?
also, can we say no effect on HP attacks?
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Post by AnTz on Nov 23, 2016 2:08:47 GMT
Basically rate attack, hp delete and instant death attack arent affected
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 23, 2016 2:14:12 GMT
so the conclusion is cap of 95? also, can we say no effect on HP attacks? def 95 doesn't reduce HP rate damage nor shell break damage.
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Post by Faylyne on Nov 24, 2016 21:13:09 GMT
Accord Sword +9 DEF 15 Bellow of Order +9 DEF 34 Sieger Plate +9 DEF 35 Dodge Charm DEF 6 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 90 + 18 (Stats Def: 603) Third Eyes 175 damage, 347 critical damage ============================================= Tellas +9 Struggler +9 DEF 18 Sage Hat +9 DEF 18 Magical Ring DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 37 + 18 (Stats Def: 527) Third Eyes: 2500 damage, 4129 critical damage ============================================= Tellas +9 Adventurer Garb DEF 3 Colon Hat DEF 1 --------------------------------------------- Total DEF 4 (Stats Def: 476) Third Eyes: 4992, 9231 critical damage Seems like max defense is 97% from looking at the numbers. When my Paladin equips the 100 defense gear, he receives 1 damage from all attacks and criticals. I specifically chose my high wizard to do the test because he doesn't have any innate defense skills. I thing the max def is 95 because melee resistance. 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) 91.75*5=458.78 (5% of damage) 458.78*0.78=357.85 (0.78 came from Bellow and Sieger Plate, Melee R +22%) The difference between 357.85 by calculation and 347 by testing might be from RNG. That is pretty closed. how did u get the 45 number from this calculation? 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) And there is something missing i think. Let's say if ur calculation is right until 5% of dmg, 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) 91.75*5=458.78 (5% of damage) 458.78*0.78=357.85 (0.78 came from Bellow and Sieger Plate, Melee R +22%) U missed that he use accord sword, it has meele r+10%, so it must be 458.78*0.68=311.69 311.69 vs 347 is a bit far o.o
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 24, 2016 22:27:31 GMT
I thing the max def is 95 because melee resistance. 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) 91.75*5=458.78 (5% of damage) 458.78*0.78=357.85 (0.78 came from Bellow and Sieger Plate, Melee R +22%) The difference between 357.85 by calculation and 347 by testing might be from RNG. That is pretty closed. how did u get the 45 number from this calculation? 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) And there is something missing i think. Let's say if ur calculation is right until 5% of dmg, 4129/45=91.75 (1% of damage) 91.75*5=458.78 (5% of damage) 458.78*0.78=357.85 (0.78 came from Bellow and Sieger Plate, Melee R +22%) U missed that he use accord sword, it has meele r+10%, so it must be 458.78*0.68=311.69 311.69 vs 347 is a bit far o.o 45 is percentage of damage left from def 55. And yes, you are right. I forgot 10% from accord sword. From the value, 10% looks far. ฺBut, I have no idea. I dont think the cap will be something like 94.5def neither.
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