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Post by quitted on Nov 3, 2016 1:46:24 GMT
i need some enlightenment about the "limit",
the update info says "ATK/DEF for each equipment have a limit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit". whats exactly the is the limit? is it the third numbers as seen on on jp wiki or something else?
like for example jp wiki says montol colliet def are 1-6-7, so does it means total of DEF from equipment + DEF from super refining on montol colliet can't exceed the third number/ 7 DEF?
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Post by lacs on Nov 3, 2016 2:42:06 GMT
i need some enlightenment about the " limit", the update info says "ATK/DEF for each equipment have a l imit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit". whats exactly the is the limit? is it the third numbers as seen on on jp wiki or something else? like for example jp wiki says montol colliet def are 1-6-7, so does it means total of DEF from equipment + DEF from super refining on montol colliet can't exceed the third number/ 7 DEF? let's say, there's an additional equipment which its lower defense is def1, now, this item can be enhanced on its defense by +6 of its original lower defense using production, so, if i use production, it's max limit for defense is def7, now, with the ultra refinement, this lowest defense can reach the max limit of +20 defense from its original lower defense, which is def21, so, this montol colliet can have lowest defense is def 1 (normally you can farm it with range of +0 to +3 of defense from its original lower defense) max defense possible using production is +6 from its original lowest defense and max defense possible using ultra refinement is +20 def from its original lowest defense this is the same limits for additional equipment and armors for swords is lowest +0 atk, max on production is atk+15, and max using ultra refinement of atk+30 for rings Lowest defense is def+0 from minimum defense, and max defense is supposed to be def+3 from original Lowest defense, this one cannot be strengthened using production or ultra refinement |
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Flarius
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What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
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Post by Flarius on Nov 3, 2016 3:24:03 GMT
It actually work like this, all eqs have maximum atk and def, doesnt matter if ur eqs is the lowest or the middle atk def, when u try to super refine,it will show what quality the eq is,example, lowest atk and def will show quality 0,while if the eq already in middle rate,it will show like quality 4,quality 7 etc...even u never super refine it yet or do prod upg,if the eqs already have highest or mid atk def,it will say the quality before super refine, and so,prod upg is like a faster and cheaper way to start your upg,still have risk, which is weapon break,so i prefer super refine more,bcos u wont lose ur eqs even it failed
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Post by quitted on Nov 3, 2016 13:24:14 GMT
i need some enlightenment about the " limit", the update info says "ATK/DEF for each equipment have a l imit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit". whats exactly the is the limit? is it the third numbers as seen on on jp wiki or something else? like for example jp wiki says montol colliet def are 1-6-7, so does it means total of DEF from equipment + DEF from super refining on montol colliet can't exceed the third number/ 7 DEF? let's say, there's an additional equipment which its lower defense is def1, now, this item can be enhanced on its defense by +6 of its original lower defense using production, so, if i use production, it's max limit for defense is def7, now, with the ultra refinement, this lowest defense can reach the max limit of +20 defense from its original lower defense, which is def21, so, this montol colliet can have lowest defense is def 1 (normally you can farm it with range of +0 to +3 of defense from its original lower defense) max defense possible using production is +6 from its original lowest defense and max defense possible using ultra refinement is +20 def from its original lowest defense this is the same limits for additional equipment and armors for swords is lowest +0 atk, max on production is atk+15, and max using ultra refinement of atk+30 for rings Lowest defense is def+0 from minimum defense, and max defense is supposed to be def+3 from original Lowest defense, this one cannot be strengthened using production or ultra refinement i see,asobimos description about the "limit" is confusing.i thought the limit is equal to the third numbers.they shouldnt mention the word at all, just mention the maximum addition values ATK＋15/ATK＋30/DEF＋20. |
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Post by lacs on Nov 3, 2016 15:16:04 GMT
hope it's clearer now  also, making things +9 again is a pain in the fingers, i just tried the ultra refinement once and it was successful, i don't wanna know about someone trying 10 times and every try fails >~< |
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Post by sparkle0962 on Nov 11, 2016 16:28:09 GMT
You can actually see the quality of your weapon when super refining it.
When it's max attack through production, in weapon, it is quality 15.
If ur below quality 15 the chances of super refining it is 99% but once you hit the 15 mark it will go down to 42% and 41 and so on...
I think in armor it's quality 10 only before success rate go down.
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Nov 11, 2016 17:21:26 GMT
You can actually see the quality of your weapon when super refining it. When it's max attack through production, in weapon, it is quality 15. If ur below quality 15 the chances of super refining it is 99% but once you hit the 15 mark it will go down to 42% and 41 and so on... I think in armor it's quality 10 only before success rate go down. It should be 6. You can only refine an armor to +6 through production |
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Post by sparkle0962 on Nov 11, 2016 17:27:12 GMT
You can actually see the quality of your weapon when super refining it. When it's max attack through production, in weapon, it is quality 15. If ur below quality 15 the chances of super refining it is 99% but once you hit the 15 mark it will go down to 42% and 41 and so on... I think in armor it's quality 10 only before success rate go down. It should be 6. You can only refine an armor to +6 through production Oh.. Thanks for correcting me, though the super refining in armor is pretty op for pally's. |
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Post by lacs on Nov 11, 2016 18:37:58 GMT
It should be 6. You can only refine an armor to +6 through production Oh.. Thanks for correcting me, though the super refining in armor is pretty op for pally's. and really stressful to make all +9 again just to fail the super refinement XoX |
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also, making things +9 again is a pain in the fingers, i just tried the ultra refinement once and it was successful, i don't wanna know about someone trying 10 times and every try fails >~<
