Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 12, 2017 23:31:22 GMT
So after turning Lv261 I soloed all MQ after Irai and my Alchemist turned Lv297... why not 300 whyyyyyy!!! But the damage is just awesome!!! I started MQ at 261 and after completing the Vulschem MQ I ended up being lv302. Now I have to figure out how to level up to 340 to get the Prod Studio skill... I was pat Irai when I started at Lv261 so maybe that is it... I will try doing the scenario quests and see where it ends... good luck for the level 340... it won't come out before 8 months at least so you got time! |
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Post by Ryukengan on Aug 13, 2017 1:20:03 GMT
Can someone test out if INT/DEX from gear raise the damage too? Might be better to go for a + status based equip set that also gets you tankiness like Sieger Plate and so on if Poison Damage is completely unrelated to MATK.
On a sidenote, I like that they finally gave Alchemist an identity other than something you had to put a lot of spina into for so little effect that it wasn't even wort it but I can't help but feel like they got things all mixed up. In my opinion a Necromancer should be the one cursing the enemy and taking down an enemy painfully, while an Alchemist should "create" things to fight the enemy (but instead of undead soldiers machines obviously).
I also hope that Alchemist gets a skill which lets him spread ailments to nearby enemies/enemies pulled by PT in the future. Would make Alchemist viable for effective grinding. They're kind of stuck in the "no one is going to party you for grinding because you don't have AOE" zone like many classes unfortunately.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 13, 2017 1:21:36 GMT
It might be possible... you get star bead from smithing, that would explain why my 150k burn is still very low! I will look into it as soon as I get back from vacation... I have 60ish in both alchemy and chasing and 40ish in carpentry but smithing, tailoring and cooking are 0 Poison bombs comes from alchemy while killer sticks (bleeding) vomes from carpentry, I forgot where Cursed Rosary comes from... they might all be affected if this is true... more reason to level up production... I will try to confirm it as soon as I can Cursed Rosary is from Alchemy. My productions are also not very high, because I was doing prod on my bishop, but it was not that high so I decided to restart it on my alchemist. I can confirm that leveling Alchemy increases poison DMG. With Alchemy lv0 my poison DMG was doing 90-100k, but now I just tested it with Alchemy lv145 and it does 145k. Edit: Now I'm leveling my alchemy, so I tried my poison dmg at different levels. Here are some numbers: (Venom Bomb lv4) lv145 : 145829, lv146 : 146225, lv150 : 147809, lv158 : 150977. As you can see, poison dmg increases by 396 every time you gain a lv in alchemy. Not sure if stats affect this increase, but atm I have 321 Int and 308 Dex. |
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 13, 2017 4:52:23 GMT
What is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb?
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 13, 2017 20:09:18 GMT
It might be possible... you get star bead from smithing, that would explain why my 150k burn is still very low! I will look into it as soon as I get back from vacation... I have 60ish in both alchemy and chasing and 40ish in carpentry but smithing, tailoring and cooking are 0 Poison bombs comes from alchemy while killer sticks (bleeding) vomes from carpentry, I forgot where Cursed Rosary comes from... they might all be affected if this is true... more reason to level up production... I will try to confirm it as soon as I can Cursed Rosary is from Alchemy. My productions are also not very high, because I was doing prod on my bishop, but it was not that high so I decided to restart it on my alchemist. I can confirm that leveling Alchemy increases poison DMG. With Alchemy lv0 my poison DMG was doing 90-100k, but now I just tested it with Alchemy lv145 and it does 145k. Edit: Now I'm leveling my alchemy, so I tried my poison dmg at different levels. Here are some numbers: (Venom Bomb lv4) lv145 : 145829, lv146 : 146225, lv150 : 147809, lv158 : 150977. As you can see, poison dmg increases by 396 every time you gain a lv in alchemy. Not sure if stats affect this increase, but atm I have 321 Int and 308 Dex. This is so much good news thanks!! |
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 14, 2017 2:53:35 GMT
Lvl 351
Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production )
Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set )
Poison dmg 292k+( with poison dmg set )
Poison dmg set that I'm using:
Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon)
Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor)
Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear)
Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment)
Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg.
2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂
Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg.
I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec.
Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂
Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill?
As for Apostolia:
GLB 100
BLB 100
Page 1 max green for max Evasion.
Page 2 max cyan for max Matk.
With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival.
Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit )
Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick.
Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit )
Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 9:10:34 GMT
Lvl 351 Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production ) Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set ) Poison dmg 292k+( with poion dmg set ) Poison dmg set that I'm using: Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon) Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor) Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear) Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment) Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg. 2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂 Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg. I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec. Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂 Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill? As for Apostolia: GLB 100 BLB 100 Page 1 max green for max Evasion. Page 2 max cyan for max Matk. With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival. Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit ) Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick. Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit ) Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁 I only need that bud ring and fluency in spec  and working on the last seele zauga  But my Alchi is not that high levels nor has unlocked 2 apostolia pages huh I know Burn is 6 seconds and poison is 3 seconds (that is why I made a poison set) but are you sure about 3 seconds cursed rain?? Seemed to me that it was faster... more like 2 seconds or something Btw if your Alchemy is level 190 you'd be doing some 600K poison damage |
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Aug 14, 2017 9:24:00 GMT
Lvl 351 Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production ) Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set ) Poison dmg 292k+( with poion dmg set ) Poison dmg set that I'm using: Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon) Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor) Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear) Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment) Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg. 2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂 Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg. I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec. Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂 Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill? As for Apostolia: GLB 100 BLB 100 Page 1 max green for max Evasion. Page 2 max cyan for max Matk. With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival. Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit ) Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick. Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit ) Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁
This is very interesting btw, but I think it would probably sacrifice the cast time for meteor impact and cursed rain, no?
I tested and it seems that Burn Damage is MATK/INT/DEX dependent. Dropping any of these could make a change to burn damage but I don't know the specifics per MATK/INT/DEX. Burn Damage does not increase by Elemental Magic but more rather the spell damage itself. The problem with burn as well is that it won't proc on fire element bosses/mobs. Tried on Agira Jarma and it doesn't work for him. |
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 9:44:39 GMT
Lvl 351 Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production ) Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set ) Poison dmg 292k+( with poion dmg set ) Poison dmg set that I'm using: Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon) Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor) Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear) Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment) Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg. 2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂 Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg. I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec. Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂 Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill? As for Apostolia: GLB 100 BLB 100 Page 1 max green for max Evasion. Page 2 max cyan for max Matk. With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival. Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit ) Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick. Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit ) Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁
This is very interesting btw, but I think it would probably sacrifice the cast time for meteor impact and cursed rain, no?
I tested and it seems that Burn Damage is MATK/INT/DEX dependent. Dropping any of these could make a change to burn damage but I don't know the specifics per MATK/INT/DEX. Burn Damage does not increase by Elemental Magic but more rather the spell damage itself. The problem with burn as well is that it won't proc on fire element bosses/mobs. Tried on Agira Jarma and it doesn't work for him.You can find a few numbers I posted about burn and poison in a previous post Burn definitely didn't work on Agira Jarma |
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 14, 2017 10:44:51 GMT
Lvl 351 Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production ) Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set ) Poison dmg 292k+( with poion dmg set ) Poison dmg set that I'm using: Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon) Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor) Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear) Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment) Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg. 2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂 Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg. I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec. Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂 Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill? As for Apostolia: GLB 100 BLB 100 Page 1 max green for max Evasion. Page 2 max cyan for max Matk. With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival. Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit ) Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick. Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit ) Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁 I only need that bud ring and fluency in spec and working on the last seele zauga But my Alchi is not that high levels nor has unlocked 2 apostolia pages huh I know Burn is 6 seconds and poison is 3 seconds (that is why I made a poison set) but are you sure about 3 seconds cursed rain?? Seemed to me that it was faster... more like 2 seconds or something Btw if your Alchemy is level 190 you'd be doing some 600K poison damage   OP skill *-* Crused rain is 3 sec per tick, tested on yarde a while ago, duration lvl 1 is 30sec, lvl 2 is 40 sec as per japanese post above. |
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 14, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
Lvl 351 Int 401, Vit 401, Dex 401, Alchemy lvl 98( Working on production ) Poison dmg 147k+( without poison dmg set ) Poison dmg 292k+( with poion dmg set ) Poison dmg set that I'm using: Ceduro II◇Seele Zauga I (Weapon) Thief Garb IV◇Seele Zauga I (Armor) Blume Gift◇Seele Zauga I (Additional Gear) Bud Ring◇Seele Zauga I (Special Equipment) Waiting for ▲Magonza for +30% more poison dmg. 2 slot ceduro II will be OP, I will look for sellers😂 Status points from Al cryata and xtal doesn't affect poison dmg. I'm using ☆Fluency lvl 1 on Armor, add. gear and spec. Looking for ☆Fluency Lv 1 on Claw, only available through Star Weapon Book in Sofya City synthesis😂 Can anyone confirm what is the minimum cast time of Poison Bomb Skill? As for Apostolia: GLB 100 BLB 100 Page 1 max green for max Evasion. Page 2 max cyan for max Matk. With Poison Bomb it is easy to use skills like Large Shield( Pet Skill ), the penalty of -25% Atk&Matk doesn't affect poison dmg even for a bit, and received dmg reduction by 25% is very useful for survival. Burn Dmg is 6 sec per tick.( After 6 sec of skill hit ) Cursed Rain is 3 sec per tick. Poison dmg is 3 sec per tick.( After 3 sec of skill hit ) Well I created a pure poison Alchemist😁
This is very interesting btw, but I think it would probably sacrifice the cast time for meteor impact and cursed rain, no?
I tested and it seems that Burn Damage is MATK/INT/DEX dependent. Dropping any of these could make a change to burn damage but I don't know the specifics per MATK/INT/DEX. Burn Damage does not increase by Elemental Magic but more rather the spell damage itself. The problem with burn as well is that it won't proc on fire element bosses/mobs. Tried on Agira Jarma and it doesn't work for him.Burn dmg 255k, cursed dmg 92k, using poison dmg set only. Burn and cursed rain dmg would increase by using complete Matk Set. But I'm focusing more on poison dmg. |
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 11:03:32 GMT
How much damage would your Cursed Rain, Burn Damage and Bleed Damage deal alongside that poison damage?
This is very interesting btw, but I think it would probably sacrifice the cast time for meteor impact and cursed rain, no?
I tested and it seems that Burn Damage is MATK/INT/DEX dependent. Dropping any of these could make a change to burn damage but I don't know the specifics per MATK/INT/DEX. Burn Damage does not increase by Elemental Magic but more rather the spell damage itself. The problem with burn as well is that it won't proc on fire element bosses/mobs. Tried on Agira Jarma and it doesn't work for him. Burn dmg 255k, cursed dmg 92k, using poison dmg set only. Burn and cursed rain dmg would increase by using complete Matk Set. But I'm focusing more on poison dmg. Poison is easier to focus on, very easy set (only ceduro ii and bud ring slot are pricy, and you can just use free catura since bud is only +5%...). What is better is that poison is 3sec which makes it ideal for boss farming. Go in use drain throw a poison bomb and let it die... later with smoke bomb you get extra survivability... However cursed Rain can be better for mob grinding since it is an AoE skill and lasts even if mob dies so you consume lesser consumables |
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 14, 2017 11:21:15 GMT
Rings of bud [Special]
Effect: DEF: 0-3 poison effect +3% MP cost -15% Auto HP recovery -20%
Bud ring gives poison dmg +3%
The only spec that gives poison dmg +% in iruna for now.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Aug 14, 2017 13:06:01 GMT
Fierce! Can you try get a cast set and do the ailments then switch to that poison set? I'm curious if the damage will transfer over o,o
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Post by Fierce! on Aug 14, 2017 16:43:28 GMT
Fierce! Can you try get a cast set and do the ailments then switch to that poison set? I'm curious if the damage will transfer over o,o Cursed Rain dmg gets reduced after switching from Matk set to Poison Set. Poison dmg gets reduced after switching from Poison set to Matk set. Burn dmg remains CONSTANT after switching from Matk set to Poison Set. |
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and working on the last seele zauga 
