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Post by addictux on Sept 27, 2016 8:39:48 GMT
no response yet as of having max agi crt i'll be at lvl 167-168? so adding 200 vit i'll be at lvl 200-220? rest str. if i can't use hcb/d.claw i guess i'll use koda III and also would maniji be good?.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 27, 2016 10:59:18 GMT
no response yet as of having max agi crt i'll be at lvl 167-168? so adding 200 vit i'll be at lvl 200-220? rest str. if i can't use hcb/d.claw i guess i'll use koda III and also would maniji be good?. The distribution between agi, str and crt is entirely up to you. Koda III and Maniji both work fine.
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Post by addictux on Sept 27, 2016 13:08:37 GMT
no response yet as of having max agi crt i'll be at lvl 167-168? so adding 200 vit i'll be at lvl 200-220? rest str. if i can't use hcb/d.claw i guess i'll use koda III and also would maniji be good?. The distribution between agi, str and crt is entirely up to you. Koda III and Maniji both work fine. i have a pally (not nail yet) at lvl 228-230 i was able to make int/dex 255 and vit 256 with all apos lvl 37. would leaving 256 3 stat (for this nail bk build) would be ok? and put stats to vit til 200 or til i can
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Post by addictux on Oct 1, 2016 8:23:30 GMT
no more response guess you're tired of this xD
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 2, 2016 2:06:02 GMT
For my own experience, I do not use d.claw. I use maniji mainly because it has no negative % magic resistance. I maxed agi and crt and let bite does its work. The bite's healing is not high, but it will come often with high crt. Daiginjo + Ira will make your bite goes beyond often.
Now, let see how it survive. Agi will help you avoid most damage, and keep your clone in check that will help you confront some critical damages from bosses. A clone will help you a lot even you have negative physical resistance from ira. For magic, BK has magic parry. I also prefer maniji for this reason because this build will die easily with negative magic resistance.
For status, Agi is used for avoiding most damage. Crt will help bite come out often. Vit is needed just enough that you will not die easily. The rest goes for STR.
This is the another way for claw BK, and it will be very nice at high level. However, at low level, you don't have enough CRT to use dai and bite won't do much. So, you might consider to have d.claw and hcb for low level
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on Oct 2, 2016 4:10:24 GMT
Well, not much, but if u r into nail bk, u might make some use of this video..maybe..
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Post by addictux on Oct 3, 2016 12:10:28 GMT
For my own experience, I do not use d.claw. I use maniji mainly because it has no negative % magic resistance. I maxed agi and crt and let bite does its work. The bite's healing is not high, but it will come often with high crt. Daiginjo + Ira will make your bite goes beyond often. Now, let see how it survive. Agi will help you avoid most damage, and keep your clone in check that will help you confront some critical damages from bosses. A clone will help you a lot even you have negative physical resistance from ira. For magic, BK has magic parry. I also prefer maniji for this reason because this build will die easily with negative magic resistance. For status, Agi is used for avoiding most damage. Crt will help bite come out often. Vit is needed just enough that you will not die easily. The rest goes for STR. This is the another way for claw BK, and it will be very nice at high level. However, at low level, you don't have enough CRT to use dai and bite won't do much. So, you might consider to have d.claw and hcb for low level tnx about this hearing (reading) you said that i feel like using maniji as it leech mp also how much crt to have proper use of dai? and dai + ror is bad so which is better to use dai or ror? dai for autoskill?
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Post by addictux on Oct 3, 2016 12:16:27 GMT
Well, not much, but if u r into nail bk, u might make some use of this video..maybe.. some use how e.e? i can't read japanese xD
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on Oct 3, 2016 14:46:58 GMT
Well, not much, but if u r into nail bk, u might make some use of this video..maybe.. some use how e.e? i can't read japanese xD idk whether or not you know Japanese, hence the "you MIGHT make some use".
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Oct 3, 2016 16:10:18 GMT
W-Whoa. JP BK already have 260 skills?
JELLY JELLY JELLY
SO FREAKING JELLY
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 3, 2016 20:21:57 GMT
For my own experience, I do not use d.claw. I use maniji mainly because it has no negative % magic resistance. I maxed agi and crt and let bite does its work. The bite's healing is not high, but it will come often with high crt. Daiginjo + Ira will make your bite goes beyond often. Now, let see how it survive. Agi will help you avoid most damage, and keep your clone in check that will help you confront some critical damages from bosses. A clone will help you a lot even you have negative physical resistance from ira. For magic, BK has magic parry. I also prefer maniji for this reason because this build will die easily with negative magic resistance. For status, Agi is used for avoiding most damage. Crt will help bite come out often. Vit is needed just enough that you will not die easily. The rest goes for STR. This is the another way for claw BK, and it will be very nice at high level. However, at low level, you don't have enough CRT to use dai and bite won't do much. So, you might consider to have d.claw and hcb for low level tnx about this hearing (reading) you said that i feel like using maniji as it leech mp also how much crt to have proper use of dai? and dai + ror is bad so which is better to use dai or ror? dai for autoskill? Try to use the formula from here. It will help some. Basically, 350+crt with ira up could be enough. Mamonea can help, but it reduces magic resistance. Ability Tech is also very useful. For spec, I prefer anything slot with telon(quest spec that adds melee&magic R 5% is also good). Added, I forgot to mention about al pages. I prefer 2green and 6yellow lines, but I also used 2red and 6purple lines before.
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Post by mokie on Oct 3, 2016 20:30:38 GMT
dai and ror can not be used at the same time, but I prefer dai because autoskill. I try to max out bite for damage and frequently small amount of regen. However, ror is better for damage without using bite, so max str agi and low crt might be better of with ror.
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Post by addictux on Oct 4, 2016 7:05:11 GMT
tnx about this hearing (reading) you said that i feel like using maniji as it leech mp also how much crt to have proper use of dai? and dai + ror is bad so which is better to use dai or ror? dai for autoskill? Try to use the formula from here. It will help some. Basically, 350+crt with ira up could be enough. Mamonea can help, but it reduces magic resistance. Ability Tech is also very useful. For spec, I prefer anything slot with telon(quest spec that adds melee&magic R 5% is also good). Added, I forgot to mention about al pages. I prefer 2green and 6yellow lines, but I also used 2red and 6purple lines before. i think i would use dai up but the vid guy said in order to make siccarius work properly? need atleast 330 str if having 330 str and max agi and rest crt maybe ill go use ror. at my current monk (only class i have atm use ror) my stats are 330 agi 300 crt 60 vit rest and continues int i miss about 2 or 3 every 10-15 sec. would having higher str/agi makes me less miss or i should get more crt than agi/str?
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Post by addictux on Oct 4, 2016 7:11:29 GMT
dai and ror can not be used at the same time, but I prefer dai because autoskill. I try to max out bite for damage and frequently small amount of regen. However, ror is better for damage without using bite, so max str agi and low crt might be better of with ror. is bite passive or active? if passive definitely need autoskill if active its fine with ror however normal attacks might miss since ror lowers accuracy too much than dai lowering it. Daiginjo [Holiday] [Additional] Effect: DEF: 1-4 ATK: 15 Accuracy -30%, Hate rise +20%, Critical rate -70%, Autoskill +10%, Critical damage +20%. Daiginjo [Holiday] (Strengthened) [Additional] Effect: DEF: 9-12 ATK: 18 Accuracy -30%, Hate rise +30%, Critical rate -70%, Autoskill +12%, Critical damage +22%. accuracy -30% and crt rate -70% yeah this needs 350+ crt Ring of Rush [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 DEX & Accuracy & Critical rate greatly decreases. Great ATK up by Lv Notes: ATK + 300 ATK + 3% (according to the DEX- ATK- status rising value as of each weapon species) with 300 crt i still hit crt or 90% of what i hit is crt but my accuracy at stats beome 80 idk why but i still hit on yarde (using monk) but using ror increase my dmg a lot and dai for crt dmg and autoskill?.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 8:22:02 GMT
dai and ror can not be used at the same time, but I prefer dai because autoskill. I try to max out bite for damage and frequently small amount of regen. However, ror is better for damage without using bite, so max str agi and low crt might be better of with ror. is bite passive or active? if passive definitely need autoskill if active its fine with ror however normal attacks might miss since ror lowers accuracy too much than dai lowering it. Daiginjo [Holiday] [Additional] Effect: DEF: 1-4 ATK: 15 Accuracy -30%, Hate rise +20%, Critical rate -70%, Autoskill +10%, Critical damage +20%. Daiginjo [Holiday] (Strengthened) [Additional] Effect: DEF: 9-12 ATK: 18 Accuracy -30%, Hate rise +30%, Critical rate -70%, Autoskill +12%, Critical damage +22%. accuracy -30% and crt rate -70% yeah this needs 350+ crt Ring of Rush [Special] Effect: DEF: 0-3 DEX & Accuracy & Critical rate greatly decreases. Great ATK up by Lv Notes: ATK + 300 ATK + 3% (according to the DEX- ATK- status rising value as of each weapon species) with 300 crt i still hit crt or 90% of what i hit is crt but my accuracy at stats beome 80 idk why but i still hit on yarde (using monk) but using ror increase my dmg a lot and dai for crt dmg and autoskill?. Bite is passive according to: iruna-online.proboards.com/thread/162/beast-knight-skills
Crit rate and Accuracy is different. Accuracy affects HIT while crit rate does not show on your stats. To know your current crit rate, you'd have to use this formula (source): Critical Rate = [(CRT ÷ 3) + 5 + Flat Critical Rate Values] x [1 + Percentual Critical Rate Values]
Idk much about BK, but from what I read it seems you gotta up ATK if you want to spam skills (doable with special claws/Amber Sail/Carib Horns) and you'd want a mix of ATK, critical damage and autoskill if you want to autoattack.
I read somewhere that RoR's exact -crit rate is 30%. I'll find the source later. Anyway, using RoR with Dai would give you -100% crit rate which means you won't do crits at all. However, you can counter that with the following items:
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• Benesickle (Claw) - MaxMP +10%, Critical rate +20%, CRT up by 2% of Lv. Magic R -5% - this claw won't really up your damage, but later it will have an up in Reoctove: Robushikkuru - MaxMP +15%, Critical rate +20%, CRT up by 6% of Lv. Magic R -5%, Critical damage +13%, Absolute evasion +5%
• Ira (Armor) - ATK+12%, Autoskill +5%, Magic Evasion +5%, Critical Rate +20%, Physical Resistance -25% (Hidden Correction: MaxMP+12%?) - the no up and up have the same amount of crit rate. Re up however, will give you 5% more.
• Croquette (Consumable) - About 10 minutes, the critical rate of +15% • Ikizukuri (Consumable) - About 10 minutes, Accuracy +10% Evasion +10% Critical rate +10% - these are consumables you can use to help lessen the burden but you probably can't use them together since one will cancel the other. Better befriend some cooks since this item can only be made via Production. The first one is from Cooking Lv134 and the 2nd is Lv89. However, they might be hard to make since the recipe requires ingredients from Planters. Other than these two, you can use other consumables that give you a "Luck" buff like Whetstone but stay away from Red Pill since it decreases your damage.
• Technique (Ability) - this abi gives critical rate +5 per ability level so if you were to get Tech abi Lv 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, you'll have a total of +75 flat crit rate.
• Purple Lines (Apostolia Color Setup) - 6 of these lines would give you +30% ASPD so I'm guessing that it will give you +30 (not percentage) crit rate
Mixing everything together with Dai and RoR, we get: -70% + -30% + 20% + 20% + 15% (Croquette) = -45% crit rate + 105 flat crit rate from abi and apos.
Substituting above crit rate values + your stats into the formula:
Critical Rate = [(300 / 3) + 5 + 105] x [1 + -45%] Critical Rate = 115.5
Now we have too much crit rate XD.
Anyway, hope this helps owo
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