skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Aug 23, 2016 15:41:48 GMT
Just curious on how well a Servant using Snead Claws/Pex earrings would go. I know that Vitalize gives Hp/Mp+30% and that servants have a decently high base maxmp. I don't know, would it be realistic to say they'd be able to break 40k mp with Job Mastery? Can they even get Job Mastery?
The other end of the spectrum is a Lebenglanz Servant. Now this I know without a sliver of a doubt that Servants can get a lot of HP, especially with the help of the Soul Connect passive. Even without Job Mastery they can get 100k hp without too much effort (need to be 300+ though). Lebenglanz' autoskill penalty is brutal though, so I see a lot of flaws with this build.
The last idea is a fike Servant. I thought about it because Servants can easily deal with the maxmp penalty from Fike using Vitalize, and using Highness Heal to maintain health.
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Post by ruebear on Aug 23, 2016 19:48:11 GMT
I believe there is a video on a Servant using Snead Claws and being able to solo. Not sure if they show their stats and gear.
I don't doubt that Servants can solo. They very much can, of course if properly geared right, along with their stats. However they are limited to some bosses, and I wouldn't try making one being able to solo tier 3 bosses and so on.
When I had a Servant, and used Vitality, I felt that it didn't add much HP/MP, maybe like 3k of HP/MP was added.
Then again of you're talking about end game results of a lvl300 Servant I'd assume results may vary differently.
As for Interfike, I'd stay away from it as a Servant. Unless you plan on going with a Ninja build or a hybrid build. I can see a build set working around using Interfike and Mirrorcoat if possible. But you'de probably need a hybrid build in order to spam that skill or SD.
Idk if you're trying to go for a solo build or a dmg build.
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Post by rahovart on Aug 24, 2016 6:52:42 GMT
I don't see MP getting anywhere near that high lol. For the HP ehhh maybe close but I doubt it'd get that high. Also prob with highness bless it restores HP/mp depending on how much of them you've got. Also soul connect does boost your HP but not by a huge amount.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Aug 24, 2016 8:45:46 GMT
I tested around when I partied with a Servant yesterday. Got 1k mp when my max mp was 3k, and I was a BK with only D.Mail re up and level 226. Vitalize takes into account Max MP after calculating gear bonuses. It would only be 3k after 10k mp, but we still aren't sure what the max possible amount of base mp a Servant can have yet.
40k mp wouldn't be far fetched at all with Job Mastery. Otherwise, I think I could get a Servant to hit 20k mp if I partied with a Bishop, was level 300+ and had a lot of int+ equips. Stat bonuses on gear scale with level, int+7 is worth 2k mp on my level 226 BK.
I'm almost 100% positive about a Servant easily getting 100k hp. Because when my bishop was level 120, I went app. Servant for a bit and managed to get 20k hp with only 2 hp+20% xtals, 150-200 vit, no hp bonus gears and no myrica. The hp bonus from Vit scales with level, so I don't think 100k hp is far fetched at all. If anything, it's aiming low.
The Fike Servant is also the one I was most iffy about. I didn't know how to go about this. Maintaining a clone is impossible without evasion, but Servants also heal so much from Highness Heal that it seems a shame not to utilize that. The big thing going for this build is that a Servant can just use Vitalize and Highness Heal to deal with Fike's heal and mp penalty.
I'm going for a solo build that would hopefully manage to break past 100k damage in 5 seconds.
If I really wanted to go wild, I'd try to combine Interfike with Lebenglanz. But that definitely seems a tad extreme XD
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Post by ManaKhe on Aug 25, 2016 0:47:13 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else.
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Post by bravebor on Aug 25, 2016 1:29:09 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else. did seem to do a pretty good job with his auto pal though... |
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Post by skeewi on Aug 25, 2016 5:32:52 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else. Yeah, a pitiful 1% proc rate along with a big range from 10%-30% is sorta bad. I just wanted a way to utilize a Servant's high hp. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Aug 25, 2016 6:39:27 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else. Yeah, a pitiful 1% proc rate along with a big range from 10%-30% is sorta bad. I just wanted a way to utilize a Servant's high hp. Honestly the most viable build for Servant right now is INT VIT DEX and using counter gear when solo. High HP+Clones should be plenty to keep them alive for most bosses. When in parties convert to buffs/heals. |
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Post by mokie on Aug 25, 2016 7:04:25 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else. Yeah, a pitiful 1% proc rate along with a big range from 10%-30% is sorta bad. I just wanted a way to utilize a Servant's high hp. Lebenglanz doesn't have 1% proc rate. The truth is about 30%-35% proc rate even though it has -10% autoskill status. |
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Post by mokie on Aug 25, 2016 7:23:22 GMT
Lebenglanz would be pretty bad cause it really isn't a good weapon in general at all. It isn't even effective with Paladin who can get way more HP than everyone else. did seem to do a pretty good job with his auto pal though... This build used to be the best for pally in my opinion until KO came out. Unfortunately, VIT>DEX>STR is the best now. I am waiting for chainmail next up and duel shield next up. Hopefully, my dmg can hit 60k. |
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Aug 25, 2016 12:52:38 GMT
Yeah, a pitiful 1% proc rate along with a big range from 10%-30% is sorta bad. I just wanted a way to utilize a Servant's high hp. Honestly the most viable build for Servant right now is INT VIT DEX and using counter gear when solo. High HP+Clones should be plenty to keep them alive for most bosses. When in parties convert to buffs/heals. Yeah, I expected as much. But I was just trying to break the mold a little. Y'know, sometimes that desire to tinker just won't leave you alone. |
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Post by bikini on Sept 3, 2016 22:45:39 GMT
if u read new servant skills(only 3) look int/vit/dex build, for pt survive, because 1 skill recived half damage from ur master, and 2 atack skill with holy2 and nemesis formula but neutral, need matck and hp.
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Post by skeewi on Sept 4, 2016 1:48:25 GMT
if u read new servant skills(only 3) look int/vit/dex build, for pt survive, because 1 skill recived half damage from ur master, and 2 atack skill with holy2 and nemesis formula but neutral, need matck and hp. Someone failed to understand the point of that thread... PS. I made that thread (´꒳`) |
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Post by rahovart on Sept 5, 2016 20:52:47 GMT
if u read new servant skills(only 3) look int/vit/dex build, for pt survive, because 1 skill recived half damage from ur master, and 2 atack skill with holy2 and nemesis formula but neutral, need matck and hp. oui biki may you leave a link to the source I want to see these skills and I can't find anything about this anywhere. |
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Post by bikini on Sept 6, 2016 23:02:26 GMT
raho i saw in general section, servant got low mp comparated with bish, tested both similar lv and gear.
If u can do better damage than counter may be good.
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