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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 4:02:53 GMT
Hi o.o/ EwPeople here. Magic Ninja.
So I was discussing Struggler's max VIT for max MATK with some guildies. While some say 180 is the limit, my bishop stopped getting MATK from VIT at 209 VIT. One of my guildies says it was 200 VIT for him/her (dunno gender sorry XD). A friend and a guildie had a same theory, that the MATK boost from Struggler might be dependent on the armor's DEF. It got me curious, so I did a bit of research and found this:
Struggler [Armor] Effect: DEF: 10-15-16 ATK: 10 Spell burst +10%, Magic pierce +15%, Magic R +10% (hidden correction: MATK4 ~ 9 rise per time VIT1 equipment other than the bow-nails general) Notes: INT is lower the correction value of MATK increase the amount of increase Lv dependent due to the VIT? Upper limit of MATK rise 700
Below is from Iruna Senki Sutoragura DEF: 10-15-16 ATK: 10 spell burst rate of + 10% magic through + 15% magic resistance + 10% (hidden correction: MATK4 ~ 9 rise luck at the time of equipment other than the bow-nails general VIT1) Available: Ryuma Rebiamu Lv298 Sale price: 155,000 Note:? Correction value of INT MATK increase the amount of increase Lv dependent due to a low enough VIT upper limit of MATK rise 700
So the hidden correction translates to "4-9 MATK rise per VIT. Not available with bows and nails" I think. The note tho, Idk how I can make it more understandable. Can someone help me out here? The 180 VIT might just be a legend o.o
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Post by Famine on Jul 10, 2016 4:24:53 GMT
The boost stopped at 170 Vit with capped Int for me. I have tried adding more vit and the m attk gain does not continue past that.
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Post by hatsune on Jul 10, 2016 4:39:13 GMT
My bish have a strugg d16, and my hw have a d18, both give me the same matk
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 7:48:21 GMT
Famine can you tell me your class and level?
hatsune what are the levels of your bishop and hw?
Edit: We might be able to figure something out here, since the note does mention about being Lv dependent.
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Post by hatsune on Jul 10, 2016 8:14:02 GMT
Hw 337 and bishop 270
I tested both strugglers on hw (1st struggler: D18◇Medona☆Spellburst / 2nd struggler: D16◇Medona☆Mp cost) My matk dont change with this(i have 256 vit) When i added 175-200 vit points on my bish, she got some extra matk, but the same matk with both strugglers
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Post by Famine on Jul 10, 2016 11:26:21 GMT
Famine can you tell me your class and level?
hatsune what are the levels of your bishop and hw?
Edit: We might be able to figure something out here, since the note does mention about being Lv dependent. 323 Bishop. I think it may have something to do with Int apostolia lvl, but I can't reverse my stat lvls to test to be sure. My Int has been capped since I first got Struggler, so this is just a theory.
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Post by Kazu on Jul 10, 2016 13:12:59 GMT
Yeah I think it is based on level, earlier when my hw was under level 100, 1 VIT only added 2 MATK for me. At Lv 217 it adds 4 MATK/VIT
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 10, 2016 13:20:23 GMT
Struggler will be irrelevant as soon as that armor that gives 1 MATK per INT and -1 SD comes out.
Anyway it stopped giving me MATK after 180 VIT. Bishop here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 14:27:33 GMT
Struggler will be irrelevant as soon as that armor that gives 1 MATK per INT and -1 SD comes out. Anyway it stopped giving me MATK after 180 VIT. Bishop here. Whoa my gosh what is this armor o.o?
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Yukina
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Post by Yukina on Jul 10, 2016 15:31:28 GMT
Struggler will be irrelevant as soon as that armor that gives 1 MATK per INT and -1 SD comes out. Anyway it stopped giving me MATK after 180 VIT. Bishop here. Whoa my gosh what is this armor o.o?Order Bellow DEF:25-29 Physical and magic resistance + 12% Skill delay -1 seconds ATK increase in STR MATK increase in INT When the defense, damage mitigation in the probability Available: Gatekeeper Lv360 (Last boss ep 4) Sale price: 1,200,000 Note: ATK rise = ATK1 Per STR1 MATK rise = MATK1 per INT1
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Post by Att1tude on Jul 10, 2016 16:33:57 GMT
Hwiz here. Once i was on 162 vit, got more matk. Went to 163, didnt get more matk and i stopped there. My apos int werent so high back then and still isnt not much higher. next point i get ima try to add vit to see do i get more matk. >_>
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 17:30:56 GMT
Whoa my gosh what is this armor o.o? Order Bellow DEF:25-29 Physical and magic resistance + 12% Skill delay -1 seconds ATK increase in STR MATK increase in INT When the defense, damage mitigation in the probability Available: Gatekeeper Lv360 (Last boss ep 4) Sale price: 1,200,000 Note: ATK rise = ATK1 Per STR1 MATK rise = MATK1 per INT1 Did it really have to come from the last boss? qwq price gonna be op @-@. This looks good for many classes too, so demand's gonna be high, probably. Tho I wonder what class has INT and STR in their stat build.
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Post by Famine on Jul 10, 2016 18:00:33 GMT
Order Bellow DEF:25-29 Physical and magic resistance + 12% Skill delay -1 seconds ATK increase in STR MATK increase in INT When the defense, damage mitigation in the probability Available: Gatekeeper Lv360 (Last boss ep 4) Sale price: 1,200,000 Note: ATK rise = ATK1 Per STR1 MATK rise = MATK1 per INT1 Did it really have to come from the last boss? qwq price gonna be op @-@. This looks good for many classes too, so demand's gonna be high, probably. Tho I wonder what class has INT and STR in their stat build. Ninja and Assassin would be the two main ones.
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Post by ●Kittkat on Jul 10, 2016 18:12:49 GMT
Matk up by vit scales by level for sure. At Lvl 192 my bishop stopped getting matk at 181 vit. At Lvl 213 still getting matk at 200 vit.
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sefilyfii
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Post by sefilyfii on Jul 11, 2016 13:12:27 GMT
Ok tested
Strug Up ns d16 int1 abi vs Strug Up s d17 no abi no xtal
On my bishop (242) Int 317 (apo over capped to 70 Vit 227 (apo only overcapped to 50)
The D16 got her matk to 4.1k The D17 got her matk to 4.2k (A lil' over 100 matk)
(So yes I say def does matter with strug)
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