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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 1, 2016 12:46:50 GMT
Hmm just an opinion disregard if im wrong..... Probably its a good idea to put crt build as a variant.... It really never got any good results on ench tbh(sorry, not really want to be arrogant i really just dont think it is a good idea as a main build) Time to reveal one of the most valuable Enchanter secrets. 1.- Magic Blade can CRT 2.- Guess what happent when you have Hide Attack as pet skill Tested and prove it May i just ask if it also crts on the magic part? I assume its just the physical? Hehe thanks for testing/proving this
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Dark§tØrm
Starteen
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↑ Pink Star....-.-, really?
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Post by Dark§tØrm on Jul 1, 2016 12:53:31 GMT
My little gain of sand here:
On AA weapon section, I suggest to add:
Hiereus [Bows]
Effect: ATK: 264-274-279 Magic Bow MATK +10% Evasion +10% Autoskills +8% Adds MATK +8% INT +10 Evasion +10% if AGI > 299
Is described on JP Forums as main Enchanter weapon after the upgrade. I suggest to add:
Seele Bow II [Bows]
Effect: ATK: 73-88 magic Absolute accuracy +20% ATK is increased according to the bow Lv during Autoskills +3% attack, magic attack with probability
As spare weapon somewhere
Also I suggest to add:
▲ Death Chils [AICrystas]
Effect: Hate rise -25%
On the Al Crysta section, which works great counteracting the Hate increase of Magic Blade.
Finally, I think a couple of alternative sections could be added:
- Mana Burn set (Weapons and Crystals) - Pet Skill recommended for Enchanters.
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onileira
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the weak have its own way to fight
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Post by onileira on Jul 1, 2016 13:16:21 GMT
it only can crit when u have hide attack and any class is expensive if u make it so. all ele proc xtal on all armor with abis? No offense, but i think there must be a way to make things simpler and more efficient.
the only good point from playing elemental is cause of origin can raise ur dmg, yet origin mostly use for tank at boss and dps wise elemental doesnt always win. At times magic pierce can do more. neutral dmg also stable. There r more things to consider rather than simply elemental.
There are also some xtal which only work good for specific equip. Like in the future there will be dunkelis 2 xtal and mujie xtal with bonus if put on add. So if u wanna use it, then need to make space on add as well.
Just my own view but, some people get fascinated by high damage at most and using spell boost or other steroids (consumables) but as i think efficiency or u can say user friendly need to be consider as well. Altho the idea in using steroids means we exploit the game more than before.
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onileira
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the weak have its own way to fight
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Post by onileira on Jul 1, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
Biggest problem for chant atm as i think is how to utilize limit breaker well beside relying on phrases (make mp and mp cost- and delay up set) cause it add so much space on bag.
Limit breaker mp cost based on max mp (approx 60-70%) so best if u can cut max mp or mp cost, but in the opposite stone skin duration based on ur max mp. So special set aside, the trick as in how to optimize skills and info about gears r way more important for enchanter cause then it will determine ur build.
for example, to optimize m blade dmg u need atk matk and sd-1s while dex at 235. so weapon option which can give best result for dmg: throwing pet skill : hide attack build for dmg : int str dex (crt for hide attack if u want) vit as much as need other option : use m sword int dex and myrica and so on and so on
since chant can roll with any build and any gears
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caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Jul 5, 2016 15:02:29 GMT
nobody wanna add something ? this guide is already perfect ?
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Post by zerox on Jul 5, 2016 16:20:30 GMT
Some things that I think should be added to this guide. I got this info from my previous enchan senpai.
Tank eva build, using bow (Hiereus & Lueur) : Max Int, at least 256 dex and vit, rest agi (more than 300). I heard he already test this build by soloing boss from Iniliba to Fimbul (success solo them all)
Additional equipment: - Daiginjo up - Doggy ears re up - Sage hat up - Ensis Shield and Blue Epaulet for counter. - Booster re up
Special equipment: - Gaiety ring
Ability: - Rate cut to reduce probability of mons critical hit.
Add list additional magic attack crysta - Ifrit (fire) - Leviathan (water) - Pretortoise (wind) - Cherose (earth) - Dajarte and Enfar (dark) - Gewalt (light)
Add list autoskill boost crysta - Ziddu (weapon) - Praldy (armor - recommended for additional magic resistant) - Sim cracker (armor) - Pole (additional - recommended for additional spell burst) - Rudolf (additional - recommended for counter set equipment bcs of hp+ from this crysta) - Jahoel (special - recommended for more evasion)
Add list magic counter crysta - Anubites (dark) - Sofys (light) - Minela (water)
Add usefull pet skill list: - Quick turn for more evasion - All around for more element resistance - Spell boost so you don't need to switch equipment - Dual blow
And another info about the trade off between percentage of autoskill and matk. (This info need to get further test) 1% autoskill is equal with 70-90 matk. Someone has tested this on Yarde by comparing these equipment (all equipment using the same abi, so the only one that different is armor, his vit is 200+ so he got all matk bonus from struggler):
Equipment 1: Vigan scythe gerust Struggler up dajarte Spin shield dajarte javali jahoel
Equipment 2: Vigan scythe gerust Emido up dajarte Spin shield dajarte javali jahoel.
Result: the amount of time needed to kill 1 yarde using those 2 set of equipment is same. So, when he use struggler, he got more +-700 matk, but lack 8% autoskill meanwhile when he use emido up, he got more 8% autoskill but lack about +-700 matk. So, using approx matk which is 600 and 8% autoskill, by divided them both, we will get this result 1%=75matk. But since, this is a rough estimation, so he conclude that 1% autoskill will probably equal with 70-90matk. So if you want to sacrifice a percentage of autoskill, make sure you got at least more 75 matk per 1% autoskill which you sacrifice (more 100 matk per 1% autoskill is better)
Sorry, I'm not a native speaker.
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Post by oz on Jul 18, 2016 3:25:52 GMT
Hiereus [Bows] Effect: ATK: 264-274-279 Magic Bow MATK +10% Evasion +10% Autoskills +8% Adds MATK +8% INT +10 Evasion +10% if AGI > 299 Do you know which autoskill does Hiereus bow have? I mean, what spell?
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Post by ●Kittkat on Jul 18, 2016 4:44:53 GMT
Hiereus [Bows] Effect: ATK: 264-274-279 Magic Bow MATK +10% Evasion +10% Autoskills +8% Adds MATK +8% INT +10 Evasion +10% if AGI > 299 Do you know which autoskill does Hiereus bow have? I mean, what spell? It doesn't have one.
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Post by oz on Jul 18, 2016 6:32:18 GMT
Do you know which autoskill does Hiereus bow have? I mean, what spell? It doesn't have one. Isn't a magic sword with autoskill plus a Gerust (or other MATK xtal) better than that, then?
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Post by ●Kittkat on Jul 18, 2016 6:43:23 GMT
Isn't a magic sword with autoskill plus a Gerust (or other MATK xtal) better than that, then? In my opinion, yes. I do forsee this being a viable weapon later in game when you will have many more stat points to distribute. I've collected 4 so far... just hope I continue playing long enough to find use for them lol.
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Post by zerox on Jul 18, 2016 11:01:17 GMT
Isn't a magic sword with autoskill plus a Gerust (or other MATK xtal) better than that, then? Better or not really depends on your Agi. Autoskill+8% is really high in my opinion and that Evasion+20% is high too if your agi is more than 299. And also your skill delay will be faster instead of using magic sword+gerust. This only for high agi enchanter. Not suitable for agi less than 299.
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Post by •Azure• on Jul 22, 2016 14:32:44 GMT
I'm enchanter and the armor I use is gold armor, people take it for granted yo! I'm a hybrid enchanter, and gold armor gives great effects for both tanking and dps. :3 as for weapon I use dim IV but I want Excalibur *^* for add I use brave cape and only hae a bangle for special atm. :3 Also I would like to add that I believe stone skin isn't effected by vit per say, but your max hp. So all my gears have max hp stats. :3
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yamada15
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Yo. Hope we get along ^^
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Post by yamada15 on Jul 23, 2016 9:47:38 GMT
im on my way to enchanter...im still a low lvl with newbie equip : maniji ns(still got to take pramia), iron armor for hp( no money for better one) , magia hood s (got to up it) and fearsome claw for autoskill.....my autoskill activation is ok not rare but not common...but the dmg from the skill is very low (400_500) my stats are 136 agi 21 int 18 vit (taking vit and int both to 50) how can i make the dmg bigger?should i max int ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 16:52:10 GMT
im on my way to enchanter...im still a low lvl with newbie equip : maniji ns(still got to take pramia), iron armor for hp( no money for better one) , magia hood s (got to up it) and fearsome claw for autoskill.....my autoskill activation is ok not rare but not common...but the dmg from the skill is very low (400_500) my stats are 136 agi 21 int 18 vit (taking vit and int both to 50) how can i make the dmg bigger?should i max int ? Hiya o.o/ enchanter is a magic class, so it's a must that you have max int. Also at lvl 55, you might be better off using matk/survival gears and stuff for better lvling. One reason is that without Draw skill, your autoskill trigger rate will be really low, thus, making your Magia Hood not so useful. With a set that's cheaper than your add gear, you 'might' do 3-4x more dmg. I recommend you use below gears until you're an app ench. This is a really good guide. You should study it more
Edit: Sample nub wiz set: Matk (for grinding) - sauro stick, mage garb, grecia helm, ghost candle
Survival (for running thru aggressive mobs while doing mq) - ice book, iron armor, miwi hat, seahorse bangle
Optional: since you dont have dex yet, try using Eventail even if its just for draining. It saved my no dex ench from a lotta sticky situations @-@
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tanzious1
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Buyhiereus s/Lfm farm it QwQ
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Post by tanzious1 on Jul 31, 2016 14:13:19 GMT
Isn't a magic sword with autoskill plus a Gerust (or other MATK xtal) better than that, then? Better or not really depends on your Agi. Autoskill+8% is really high in my opinion and that Evasion+20% is high too if your agi is more than 299. And also your skill delay will be faster instead of using magic sword+gerust. This only for high agi enchanter. Not suitable for agi less than 299. ive been trying to get this bow for ages, no one sells lol, this bow is perfect with eva ench.
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