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Post by kwest on Feb 16, 2016 11:04:59 GMT
Um.. so.. Less than an hour after I said that, and I was really mad.. I decided to try to farm pole.. 3 kills.  Wow, are you solo it? Then if you solo it, you are very strong than my Squishy Enchanter :3 Cant Solo this boss in Non Quest ver. :3 Oh no I was in pt with another enchanter friend hahaha It's magic attack one shots me so much I couldn't farm it but I still got Xtal on 3rd kill, which was my first Xtal drop on iruna after 2 and a half years. |
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HaT®eD
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Justice in this world is just a bunch of principles made by those with power just to suit them
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Post by HaT®eD on Feb 16, 2016 19:55:14 GMT
PaladinPROS
High Survivability (High HP and Defensive Skills, enough to make bosses look like wimps) Exceptional Tanking Capabilities (also the only class that can protect others via Devotion) Good MP Pool even with 1 INT Destroys dark mobs and bosses with Gloria (+50% elemental vs Dark, +20% when applied to others) Relatively cheap gear required to be effective (prior Lv260) Can live along without dispelling common ailments (poison, blind, paralysis, except when you use oath) Guardian penetrates high DEF barriers Guardian is AoE upto 3 mobs Knights Oath can kill upto 5 (possibly 6) mobs in 1 hit Effective solo/party grind for regular mobs via guardian spawn glitch Effective solo grind for boss via guardian on lower bosses, knights oath on higher bosses Can solo all bosses so far (under a minute if you use oath) Can revive other players (well without veltria, at least) CONS
Guardian and Oath eats your HP Susceptible to HP% attacks (they are there to prove you are still mortal) Very heavy potion consumption for solo Guardian user (significantly reduced pot consumption with Knight's oath) Requires high investment on gears and apostolia levels to make effective Knight's Oath Guardian is relatively weak in DPS via 1 on 1 Knights Oath does not penetrate high DEF barriers Those burns hurt like hell tooo~ TT^TT And burn heal aint that easy to obtain without cooking |
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Feb 16, 2016 20:25:22 GMT
When it comes to Burn, enchanters have an advantage since Ilness hit lv2 can transfer burn and freeze too xD
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 16, 2016 20:53:39 GMT
PaladinPROS
High Survivability (High HP and Defensive Skills, enough to make bosses look like wimps) Exceptional Tanking Capabilities (also the only class that can protect others via Devotion) Good MP Pool even with 1 INT Destroys dark mobs and bosses with Gloria (+50% elemental vs Dark, +20% when applied to others) Relatively cheap gear required to be effective (prior Lv260) Can live along without dispelling common ailments (poison, blind, paralysis, except when you use oath) Guardian penetrates high DEF barriers Guardian is AoE upto 3 mobs Knights Oath can kill upto 5 (possibly 6) mobs in 1 hit Effective solo/party grind for regular mobs via guardian spawn glitch Effective solo grind for boss via guardian on lower bosses, knights oath on higher bosses Can solo all bosses so far (under a minute if you use oath) Can revive other players (well without veltria, at least) CONS
Guardian and Oath eats your HP Susceptible to HP% attacks (they are there to prove you are still mortal) Very heavy potion consumption for solo Guardian user (significantly reduced pot consumption with Knight's oath) Requires high investment on gears and apostolia levels to make effective Knight's Oath Guardian is relatively weak in DPS via 1 on 1 Knights Oath does not penetrate high DEF barriers Gloria increases damage to non dark mobs as well...? This whole time I haven't been using it outside of on dark mobs...  *eats rocks* Edit: I just tested it, it does not increase damage to other element and neutral mobs my guardian stayed at a constant 18k with and without gloria. As per 20% increase it should have been around 22k so... |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 16, 2016 22:05:10 GMT
PaladinPROS
High Survivability (High HP and Defensive Skills, enough to make bosses look like wimps) Exceptional Tanking Capabilities (also the only class that can protect others via Devotion) Good MP Pool even with 1 INT Destroys dark mobs and bosses with Gloria (+50% elemental vs Dark, +20% when applied to others) Relatively cheap gear required to be effective (prior Lv260) Can live along without dispelling common ailments (poison, blind, paralysis, except when you use oath) Guardian penetrates high DEF barriers Guardian is AoE upto 3 mobs Knights Oath can kill upto 5 (possibly 6) mobs in 1 hit Effective solo/party grind for regular mobs via guardian spawn glitch Effective solo grind for boss via guardian on lower bosses, knights oath on higher bosses Can solo all bosses so far (under a minute if you use oath) Can revive other players (well without veltria, at least) CONS
Guardian and Oath eats your HP Susceptible to HP% attacks (they are there to prove you are still mortal) Very heavy potion consumption for solo Guardian user (significantly reduced pot consumption with Knight's oath) Requires high investment on gears and apostolia levels to make effective Knight's Oath Guardian is relatively weak in DPS via 1 on 1 Knights Oath does not penetrate high DEF barriers Gloria increases damage to non dark mobs as well...? This whole time I haven't been using it outside of on dark mobs... *eats rocks* Edit: I just tested it, it does not increase damage to other element and neutral mobs my guardian stayed at a constant 18k with and without gloria. As per 20% increase it should have been around 22k so... Never did for me... guardian oath stun parry or normal attacks... always the same... only works against dark |
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 16, 2016 22:13:16 GMT
Gloria increases damage to non dark mobs as well...? This whole time I haven't been using it outside of on dark mobs... *eats rocks* Edit: I just tested it, it does not increase damage to other element and neutral mobs my guardian stayed at a constant 18k with and without gloria. As per 20% increase it should have been around 22k so... Never did for me... guardian oath stun parry or normal attacks... always the same... only works against dark then the pro of "+20%" isn't accurate (PS still like my pally tho xD) Edit: I just realized I read that wrong Pally → +50% to dark mobs When applied to other classes → +20% to dark mobs Is what I think he meant "To others" sounds like you meant to other element types Welp back to eating those rocks |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 16, 2016 22:32:36 GMT
Never did for me... guardian oath stun parry or normal attacks... always the same... only works against dark then the pro of "+20%" isn't accurate (PS still like my pally tho xD) Edit: I just realized I read that wrong Pally → +50% to dark mobs When applied to other classes → +20% to dark mobs Is what I think he meant "To others" sounds like you meant to other element types Welp back to eating those rocks Oh... now i feel dumb. .. |
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 16, 2016 22:45:33 GMT
then the pro of "+20%" isn't accurate (PS still like my pally tho xD) Edit: I just realized I read that wrong Pally → +50% to dark mobs When applied to other classes → +20% to dark mobs Is what I think he meant "To others" sounds like you meant to other element types Welp back to eating those rocks Oh... now i feel dumb. .. We can share rocks q.q |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 17, 2016 1:05:11 GMT
PaladinPROS
High Survivability (High HP and Defensive Skills, enough to make bosses look like wimps) Exceptional Tanking Capabilities (also the only class that can protect others via Devotion) Good MP Pool even with 1 INT Destroys dark mobs and bosses with Gloria (+50% elemental vs Dark, +20% when applied to others) Relatively cheap gear required to be effective (prior Lv260) Can live along without dispelling common ailments (poison, blind, paralysis, except when you use oath) Guardian penetrates high DEF barriers Guardian is AoE upto 3 mobs Knights Oath can kill upto 5 (possibly 6) mobs in 1 hit Effective solo/party grind for regular mobs via guardian spawn glitch Effective solo grind for boss via guardian on lower bosses, knights oath on higher bosses Can solo all bosses so far (under a minute if you use oath) Can revive other players (well without veltria, at least) CONS
Guardian and Oath eats your HP Susceptible to HP% attacks (they are there to prove you are still mortal) Very heavy potion consumption for solo Guardian user (significantly reduced pot consumption with Knight's oath) Requires high investment on gears and apostolia levels to make effective Knight's Oath Guardian is relatively weak in DPS via 1 on 1 Knights Oath does not penetrate high DEF barriers Gloria increases damage to non dark mobs as well...? This whole time I haven't been using it outside of on dark mobs... *eats rocks* Edit: I just tested it, it does not increase damage to other element and neutral mobs my guardian stayed at a constant 18k with and without gloria. As per 20% increase it should have been around 22k so... Sorry I meant when buffed to other players. I'll rewrite that. |
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 17, 2016 1:48:51 GMT
Gloria increases damage to non dark mobs as well...? This whole time I haven't been using it outside of on dark mobs... *eats rocks* Edit: I just tested it, it does not increase damage to other element and neutral mobs my guardian stayed at a constant 18k with and without gloria. As per 20% increase it should have been around 22k so... Sorry I meant when buffed to other players. I'll rewrite that. my fault for sneak reading at work xD |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 17, 2016 2:14:54 GMT
Sorry I meant when buffed to other players. I'll rewrite that. my fault for sneak reading at work xD I realized it can be misunderstood so the correction was for the best. |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 17, 2016 2:21:15 GMT
PaladinPROS
High Survivability (High HP and Defensive Skills, enough to make bosses look like wimps) Exceptional Tanking Capabilities (also the only class that can protect others via Devotion) Good MP Pool even with 1 INT Destroys dark mobs and bosses with Gloria (+50% elemental vs Dark, +20% when applied to others) Relatively cheap gear required to be effective (prior Lv260) Can live along without dispelling common ailments (poison, blind, paralysis, except when you use oath) Guardian penetrates high DEF barriers Guardian is AoE upto 3 mobs Knights Oath can kill upto 5 (possibly 6) mobs in 1 hit Effective solo/party grind for regular mobs via guardian spawn glitch Effective solo grind for boss via guardian on lower bosses, knights oath on higher bosses Can solo all bosses so far (under a minute if you use oath) Can revive other players (well without veltria, at least) CONS
Guardian and Oath eats your HP Susceptible to HP% attacks (they are there to prove you are still mortal) Very heavy potion consumption for solo Guardian user (significantly reduced pot consumption with Knight's oath) Requires high investment on gears and apostolia levels to make effective Knight's Oath Guardian is relatively weak in DPS via 1 on 1 Knights Oath does not penetrate high DEF barriers Those burns hurt like hell tooo~ TT^TT And burn heal aint that easy to obtain without cooking Yeah it can hurt a lot. But burn by itself isn't really a problem, it is when it is combined with heavy attacks that can cause problems. I've done bosses with burn and lived to tell about it. I feel that I fear freeze more than burn. I read from somewhere that you are more prone to be 1shotted/crit when you are frozen, this aside from its other annoying effects. |
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Post by haz on Feb 17, 2016 17:32:16 GMT
My favorite class is glady but i turn him samu Q.Q still learning to like samu  ? I'll write about monk since nobody talk about monk Since monk have 2 builds which are very different, I'll list pro and contra by build Nail with rush Pro Easiest to play (buff n rush with testa/hcb) No problem with barrier No pot needed since bless is enough Able to grind without pt n pots Rush buff is longest aspd buff n easy to use Contra Slowest dps class (for now) Lvling is very slow Can't utilize aoe efficiently Pt farm is hard because no one want low dps Agi build can't solo much bosses Late bloomer Ignored ? Geomonk Pro Very high dps (rival to sin and sniper on bosses) Break barrier n deff with monstrous dmge Easy buff (just cakra xp) Easy pt? Contra Squishiest class ever Can't do anything at all without pt Draw too much hate and end up dying in pt Need too much points for delay Late bloomer Expensives class Require pro 240+ bishop to handle their survival Matching pt is difficult (always need bish and hw and a really good tank to be efficient) |
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Post by GENSHIN™ on Feb 17, 2016 23:01:55 GMT
Samurai say nomore... Do I need to?...
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Post by Crysta| on Feb 18, 2016 3:54:33 GMT
I seriously do question if geo monk can dps like a sniper/assassin.
I mean unless the monk is well geared and the sniper/assassin is poorly geared.
Not saying geo monk is bad at DPS but is it comparable to 300k per second? I've personally done that much damage just from my Area rain (didn't add the crossfire damage) and I'm sure assassin are capable of this if not more.
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*eats rocks* 
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