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Post by ba5dluck on Aug 8, 2018 17:20:15 GMT
iruna en first release-2018 xD most expensive class to gear and can use anything lol
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 8, 2018 21:23:40 GMT
For me, if we all could make a perfect character of every class, with all 2 slot, I would say Enchanter would be the most expensive.
Just Remember the price of Gram S, FAW S and CGB S. With all elemental sets, could be like pure gold.
And do not forget abilities (Autoskill, Spell Burst, specially), Xtals and Al Crysta.
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Post by rizen on Aug 9, 2018 1:48:33 GMT
For me, if we all could make a perfect character of every class, with all 2 slot, I would say Enchanter would be the most expensive. Just Remember the price of Gram S, FAW S and CGB S. With all elemental sets, could be like pure gold. And do not forget abilities (Autoskill, Spell Burst, specially), Xtals and Al Crysta. i second the motion. Atleast for the end game. Since you can pretty much use a lot cheaper gears in the early level.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Aug 9, 2018 2:46:44 GMT
kurama Actually, sniper, assassin, or any class that recquire elemental weapon clearly will be most expensive class (assuming all 2s gear and you want be best gear). Just imagine, all 2s elemental weapon including mirror series :v For enchanter case, you clearly wrong since enchanter only need 1 damage set and gram & faw itself are best gear only if compared to other 1s gear. I would say, best 2s gear will be: #2s Dark book vol.4 #2s Struggler reup #2s Braid headband (easier to get than faw with same damage output) #2s cgb or any 2s spec (cgb is best, but you can replace with another). Dark book is easier to get than any best element weapon since it comes from lv75 boss. You dont need spellburst abi as ench and autoskill abi recquirement is be lesser than before rebalance. Fyi, nothing can beat dajarte autoskill damage except dim sword auto which isnt best weapon for ench. Just compare with any physical based class that need Force helm or monty 2s, all 2s elemental weapon, and Boo 2s. Also, enchanter al & crysta isnt as ridiculous as hw or any physical based class since you only need dajarte as best magic attack crysta plus one best matk crysta (except for weapon, nothing can beat frederico for weapon as ench which means no need sauro ii crysta) and just around 100m-120m. Just compare with any other physical based class that need 2 mr.ori or bancho as best crysta on their single 2s gear(1b+ :v) or hw that use 2 dunk ii, fred, or sauro ii on single 2s gear. For al, halios al (must for ench unless you had sauro 2 & 3 al) relatively cheap than matk al. Maybe you never try ench before because you didnt know that enchanter only need autoskill abi for damage set. Other than auto abi, tech is best option for accuracy. So your argument is wrong except on cgb part (and even there are some class that also need 2s cgb as their best gear).
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 9, 2018 11:36:12 GMT
kurama Actually, sniper, assassin, or any class that recquire elemental weapon clearly will be most expensive class (assuming all 2s gear and you want be best gear). Just imagine, all 2s elemental weapon including mirror series :v For enchanter case, you clearly wrong since enchanter only need 1 damage set and gram & faw itself are best gear only if compared to other 1s gear. I would say, best 2s gear will be: #2s Dark book vol.4 #2s Struggler reup #2s Braid headband (easier to get than faw with same damage output) #2s cgb or any 2s spec (cgb is best, but you can replace with another). Dark book is easier to get than any best element weapon since it comes from lv75 boss. You dont need spellburst abi as ench and autoskill abi recquirement is be lesser than before rebalance. Fyi, nothing can beat dajarte autoskill damage except dim sword auto which isnt best weapon for ench. Just compare with any physical based class that need Force helm or monty 2s, all 2s elemental weapon, and Boo 2s. Also, enchanter al & crysta isnt as ridiculous as hw or any physical based class since you only need dajarte as best magic attack crysta plus one best matk crysta (except for weapon, nothing can beat frederico for weapon as ench which means no need sauro ii crysta) and just around 100m-120m. Just compare with any other physical based class that need 2 mr.ori or bancho as best crysta on their single 2s gear(1b+ :v) or hw that use 2 dunk ii, fred, or sauro ii on single 2s gear. For al, halios al (must for ench unless you had sauro 2 & 3 al) relatively cheap than matk al. Maybe you never try ench before because you didnt know that enchanter only need autoskill abi for damage set. Other than auto abi, tech is best option for accuracy. So your argument is wrong except on cgb part (and even there are some class that also need 2s cgb as their best gear). I think I clearly said that Ench is expensive FOR ME, that means what I said is just a personal opinion. About the part that elemental sets are not a must for Ench, but are for Sniper/Assassin, I can see clearly that you haven't never tried those classes, because elemental sets are not a must, like Assassin, they could just use Kagekiri for all elemental mobs, those are a must if you are obsessed with damage. PD: I've used Enchanter for a long time, I like the class, I'm not obsessed, but I've never put the same "Passion" to the class like you do, to get every of the most "Pro" things.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Aug 9, 2018 12:19:48 GMT
kurama if you said that ele weapon can be replaced with single high atk weapon, same case also applied for ench. There are many cheap weapon for alternative but still give high dps. You dont need faw & gram for high dps as ench. Dim sword, vigan, and dark book vol.4 daja can replace gram. For add, doggy ears reup, nightcap up daja, dark helm daja, and sage hat reup daja can also replace faw. I can give you any other weapon & add gear that more cheaper than this if you want but you can still reach 400k+ damage in single attack. I know that assassin has other alternative for 2s weapon (imo 2s wicktrace, eventail, or uroboros can replace all 2s ele throw) or sniper just need 2s yggdrasil bow for all round weapon. But comparing expensive class just by their 2s gear isnt really relevant since there are always alternative on it. Hw & bish also use faw 2s, doc ninja also use cgb 2s, and even 2s gram isnt better than 2s Dark book vol.4. I just want correcting the missconseption about ench. Yes, faw & gram is expensive, but there are many alternative if you dont want them. Same case with physical based class that dont want collect all ele weapon.
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Post by Aza on Aug 9, 2018 14:40:58 GMT
I think the most expensive one is auto attack samurai.I can't imagine how much is 2s murashin.Not to mention their xtal:sauro2,mr.oritius and veleno.The most expensive class to fully geared in mage branch is either HW or ench.
If we are looking for the most expensive (all 2s gear and ideal al/xtal) and worth the spina, for dps class, i think either assasin or enchanter.
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Post by mcserg on Aug 9, 2018 14:57:21 GMT
I really dont like such treads since they always end up with arguments i vote to just close the treat
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Post by Makina Yuki on Aug 9, 2018 14:58:47 GMT
I think the most expensive one is auto attack samurai.I can't imagine how much is 2s murashin.Not to mention their xtal:sauro2,mr.oritius and veleno.The most expensive class to fully geared in mage branch is either HW or ench. If we are looking for the most expensive (all 2s gear and ideal al/xtal) and worth the spina, for dps class, i think either assasin or enchanter. Well, I dont think all 2s ench will be most expensive. In fact, best 2s weapon for ench is Dark book vol.4 drop from lv 75 boss and 2s braid headband or 2s nightcap can also outdamage faw if you already had >8k-10k matk. But yea, fully geared 1s gear ench (assuming all gear is best 1s gear) is one of most expensive class since best 1s weapon for ench, gram, is expensive. So do hw which usually use tellas ii or universe ii. I also reconsider fully geared 1s samu as most expensive one because you need at least 2 gear set to minimum effective play. Meanwhile, 1 gear set ench or hw still work and still do high dps.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Aug 9, 2018 15:04:55 GMT
I really dont like such treads since they always end up with arguments i vote to just close the treat Argument is fine, as long as its reasonable. Also, this disscussion is fine if it just to correcting missconseption (for example, sk need all ele throw for fully geared 1s, while in fact, Sauro aster 4 beat all ele throw for sk after rebalance).
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