♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jul 23, 2018 6:53:56 GMT
oh btw i tried to use drugs and voila my katon hit 590k on baum warriors n.n still cant decide which is better by either a tarna or dunk2 then put on sage replacing nuitram then 2 nuitram on 2s spec or keep nuitram on sage then put 2 agira on 2s spec basically trying to decide whether ill go for either 1. 30% elemental magic 2. 20% elemental magic +20% matk 3. +10% elemental magic +40% matk 4. +60% ,matk --although im pretty sure this option wont give me max dmg some deciding factors matk+66% wind magic+ 25% fire magic+35% --- i didnt add the 20% fire/wind from 2 nuitram which is on spec and add gear Heaven & Earth isn't affected by magic% btw, and nor are Earthshaker/domi As for your choice...using 2 agira will increase your maxmp which means more MP regen, + some cast defense, while using dunk II... Well nothing special. You can also use 1 agira 1 nuitram xD And idk, i think the magic% from tellas/sage/sauro II/Sauro III might be enough to balance out the jutsus? so i guess safest bet is something like this tellas 2 rita --for spelburst strug reup moldus sage reup nuitram 2s spec 2 agira this way if the HnE come out -- i can use uni2 gerust or sauro2 , or rita again strug reup praldy or fred --either more spellburst or more matk taenia dunk2 --not gonna mention faw since its expensive for the extra 6% matk and the 2s agira fingers crossed bout HnE but i sure am hoping we get doton and suiton soon -- it really sucks if ur up against a fire or wind element target >,< |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 23, 2018 6:59:26 GMT
Heaven & Earth isn't affected by magic% btw, and nor are Earthshaker/domi As for your choice...using 2 agira will increase your maxmp which means more MP regen, + some cast defense, while using dunk II... Well nothing special. You can also use 1 agira 1 nuitram xD And idk, i think the magic% from tellas/sage/sauro II/Sauro III might be enough to balance out the jutsus? so i guess safest bet is something like this tellas 2 rita --for spelburst strug reup moldus sage reup nuitram 2s spec 2 agira this way if the HnE come out -- i can use uni2 gerust or sauro2 , or rita again strug reup praldy or fred --either more spellburst or more matk taenia dunk2 --not gonna mention faw since its expensive for the extra 6% matk and the 2s agira fingers crossed bout HnE but i sure am hoping we get doton and suiton soon -- it really sucks if ur up against a fire or wind element target >,< ikr xD but anyway all these skills are gonna release at the same time >.> Oh and HnE can't spellburst either. I do think it's a melee attack (hence aster L5 sh*tting on every other weap) but i didn't have time to double check ._.) I'm just using a single set for both skills although idk what it'd be with some nuitrams instead,i'd need to test out but LOL ain't gonna buy a sage just for testing e.e |
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jul 23, 2018 8:19:04 GMT
so i guess safest bet is something like this tellas 2 rita --for spelburst strug reup moldus sage reup nuitram 2s spec 2 agira this way if the HnE come out -- i can use uni2 gerust or sauro2 , or rita again strug reup praldy or fred --either more spellburst or more matk taenia dunk2 --not gonna mention faw since its expensive for the extra 6% matk and the 2s agira fingers crossed bout HnE but i sure am hoping we get doton and suiton soon -- it really sucks if ur up against a fire or wind element target >,< ikr xD but anyway all these skills are gonna release at the same time >.> Oh and HnE can't spellburst either. I do think it's a melee attack (hence aster L5 sh*tting on every other weap) but i didn't have time to double check ._.) I'm just using a single set for both skills although idk what it'd be with some nuitrams instead,i'd need to test out but LOL ain't gonna buy a sage just for testing e.e xD wished i had a real phone so we can test it together --playtime on nox is way too short T>T |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 23, 2018 8:28:11 GMT
ikr xD but anyway all these skills are gonna release at the same time >.> Oh and HnE can't spellburst either. I do think it's a melee attack (hence aster L5 sh*tting on every other weap) but i didn't have time to double check ._.) I'm just using a single set for both skills although idk what it'd be with some nuitrams instead,i'd need to test out but LOL ain't gonna buy a sage just for testing e.e xD wished i had a real phone so we can test it together --playtime on nox is way too short T>T We could schedule sometime if you want xD I'm mostly at bws trying to understand ununderstandable stuff whenever i can login anyway QAQ |
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Post by Wexel on Jul 23, 2018 20:41:19 GMT
Dragsbro really like your guide, had a question. It mentions that the power 5 - 100 greatly increases your jutsus damage. In the test server were you experiencing like .5x, 2x damage?
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Jul 23, 2018 22:03:37 GMT
Dragsbro really like your guide, had a question. It mentions that the power 5 - 100 greatly increases your jutsus damage. In the test server were you experiencing like .5x, 2x damage? Beware because it is probably not proportional according to different builds/eqps, but... It was x2+ minimum BEFORE patch and ailment removal at 100 frags. If we assume Yang's combo stock replaces the ailment's roles, we can assume it should be around 2x+ the damages, if it didn't change either. Can't be sure till i can test again sorry OTL (Although 5-100 fragments increasing 5-100% of dmg could be logical idk) |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 15, 2018 14:11:20 GMT
Corrections for the skills section:
- Desperate Move creates 3 clones. (cannot exceed 3)
- Phantom Flame doesn't consume any clones when using DoC, and the dmg added to DoC is the following:
3 clones - adds 2.1 * DoC dmg.
2 clones - adds 1.5 * DoC dmg.
1 clone - adds 0.9 * DoC dmg.
So you could say it adds [0.3 + 0.6 * (number of clones)] * (normal DoC dmg) to your normal DoC dmg.
- SK description says it can only be critical with a throwing equipment, but it should say it can only be critical in yin mode.
Also, I think elemental throwing weapons might be useless for SK now, because my Fake Craft 3 beats my Eventail 3 on 3i, and it also beats Whirlwind and Wicktrace 3 on megaroches.
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Aug 15, 2018 14:16:25 GMT
Corrections for the skills section: - Desperate Move creates 3 clones. (cannot exceed 3) - Phantom Flame doesn't consume any clones when using DoC, and the dmg added to DoC is the following: 3 clones - adds 2.1 * DoC dmg. 2 clones - adds 1.5 * DoC dmg. 1 clone - adds 0.9 * DoC dmg. So you could say it adds [0.3 + 0.6 * (number of clones)] * (normal DoC dmg) to your normal DoC dmg. - SK description says it can only be critical with a throwing equipment, but it should say it can only be critical in yin mode. Also, I think elemental throwing weapons might be useless for SK now, because my Fake Craft 3 beats my Eventail 3 on 3i, and it also beats Whirlwind and Wicktrace 3 on megaroches. i did a big edit that failed uploading so i did it again and forgot to re-edit several stuff including those skill desc, thanks for pointing it out OTL Also thanks for DoC calculation i was lazy AF to calculate it, katon and raiton pf were hard enough >.> Aaaand some ele throws still outdmg fake craft although it's indeed getting on top of the weaker ones (the ones that don't have matk in general). I mean my fuma 2s beat a friend's wicktrace 2s so if your throw doesn't have matk...meh Aster L5 stomps on everything tho lol |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 15, 2018 14:45:20 GMT
Aster L5 stomps on everything tho lol Yeah, Aster L5 is a dream. Btw, those calculations are for DoC lv2. I think I'll test for lv1 and I'll add them later. EDIT: ignore this lol, DoC lvl has nothing to do with PF bonus. We're talking about the PF dmg formula for DoC, not the DoC dmg formula, got confused. |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Aug 15, 2018 14:58:36 GMT
Aster L5 stomps on everything tho lol Yeah, Aster L5 is a dream. Btw, those calculations are for DoC lv2. I think I'll test for lv1 and I'll add them later. EDIT: ignore this lol, DoC lvl has nothing to do with PF bonus. We're talking about the PF dmg formula for DoC, not the DoC dmg formula, got confused. well if u can find out the DoC formula... i don't have it anymore since it changed so i wouldn't mind xD |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 15, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
Yeah, Aster L5 is a dream. Btw, those calculations are for DoC lv2. I think I'll test for lv1 and I'll add them later. EDIT: ignore this lol, DoC lvl has nothing to do with PF bonus. We're talking about the PF dmg formula for DoC, not the DoC dmg formula, got confused. well if u can find out the DoC formula... i don't have it anymore since it changed so i wouldn't mind xD DoC lv1: 3 clones - 11.4 * auto atk dmg. 2 clones - 7.6 * auto atk dmg. 1 clone - 3.8 * auto atk dmg. DoC lv2: 3 clones - 12.3 * auto atk dmg. 2 clones - 8.2 * auto atk dmg. 1 clone - 4.1 * auto atk dmg. |
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 6, 2018 19:59:37 GMT
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Post by lacs on Sept 6, 2018 20:45:50 GMT
that's a lot of mp °^° and cracked mage ore restores 1%+10 of max mp |
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Dragsbro
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 6, 2018 21:15:21 GMT
that's a lot of mp °^° and cracked mage ore restores 1%+10 of max mp Well it just get us back to good old no drain xD Im glad i *still* have those cherry juice i made from your cherries in stall when i was lvling cooking xD |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Sept 6, 2018 21:27:22 GMT
Dragsbro well I already know his video long time ago xD I dont know that you still didnt know about that fact.
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