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Post by ۵ξχσ∂υѕ۵ on Apr 14, 2014 20:20:22 GMT
You know what i meant right Tilt Every class has that one "Plain jane" build thats used as a standard.
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Apr 14, 2014 20:23:38 GMT
Right... its not like their skills benefit magic swords or anything it's not like ninja have shuriken mastery or anything, not not really at all, they just use nails because it's cool.
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Post by ۵ξχσ∂υѕ۵ on Apr 14, 2014 20:27:10 GMT
Right... its not like their skills benefit magic swords or anything it's not like ninja have shuriken mastery or anything, not not really at all, they just use nails because it's cool. That hardly made any sense, but hey! Who am i to judge.
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Apr 14, 2014 20:36:34 GMT
it's not like ninja have shuriken mastery or anything, not not really at all, they just use nails because it's cool. That hardly made any sense, but hey! Who am i to judge. do i really have to explain here? you claim that enchanters benefit magic swords and that "it's the proper way", but ninja who have shuriken mastery don't go with "the proper way" and use nail weapons instead. sheesh you kill the mood.
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Post by ۵ξχσ∂υѕ۵ on Apr 14, 2014 20:43:30 GMT
That hardly made any sense, but hey! Who am i to judge. do i really have to explain here? you claim that enchanters benefit magic swords and that "it's the proper way", but ninja who have shuriken mastery don't go with "the proper way" and use nail weapons instead. sheesh you kill the mood. Actually, i was implying that each class has that one standard build that works just fine. Not saying that you are restricted or limited to it, but it does exist... trust me on this, i know how fun alternate builds are; when i get bored i switch my enchanter to a sniper build and run around with a Flugel and auler UP lmao. So rather than getting all offended, read and understand what im saying
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Apr 14, 2014 20:45:34 GMT
do i really have to explain here? you claim that enchanters benefit magic swords and that "it's the proper way", but ninja who have shuriken mastery don't go with "the proper way" and use nail weapons instead. sheesh you kill the mood. Actually, i was implying that each class has that one standard build that works just fine. Not saying that you are restricted or limited to it, but it does exist... trust me on this, i know how fun alternate builds are; when i get bored i switch my enchanter to a sniper build and run around with a Flugel and auler UP lmao. So rather than getting all offended, read and understand what im saying funny, the guy who doesn't understand what i say tells me to read and understand. i'm just dropping it here.
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Post by ۵ξχσ∂υѕ۵ on Apr 14, 2014 20:49:42 GMT
Good
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Apr 15, 2014 0:04:53 GMT
resty triggers when you get hit, that's why i call it the afk weapon since you basically use it to boost your magic dps at mobs that mostly use magic attacks., i'd say you can disregard dia espada since your magic damage will compensate or maybe do even more Was only thinking of afking at tigris x.x which wud hurt lol.....but the reason this won't work is that 1) autocast rates decrease like crazy when not holding magic swords 2) from my knowledge resty has no autocast magic besides sb 3) aspd slow as hell 4) It wouldn't be afking because u would have to cast enchant every 5 mins due to lack of magic casting 5) sb autocast would be worthless if u truly went afk. These problems are easily averted by adding a ciel...But you didn't include that in your main idea lol...all in all afking w/hexe is not only more efficient but faster and allows you to freely afk :3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 0:18:51 GMT
resty triggers when you get hit, that's why i call it the afk weapon since you basically use it to boost your magic dps at mobs that mostly use magic attacks., i'd say you can disregard dia espada since your magic damage will compensate or maybe do even more Was only thinking of afking at tigris x.x which wud hurt lol.....but the reason this won't work is that 1) autocast rates decrease like crazy when not holding magic swords 2) from my knowledge resty has no autocast magic besides sb 3) aspd slow as hell 4) It wouldn't be afking because u would have to cast enchant every 5 mins due to lack of magic casting 5) sb autocast would be worthless if u truly went afk. These problems are easily averted by adding a ciel...But you didn't include that in your main idea lol...all in all afking w/hexe is not only more efficient but faster and allows you to freely afk :3 1)No enchanter skill increases auto cast based on having a magic sword. You should know that as an enchanter yourself. 2) With the autoskill boosts and the matk boost from resty, you will still autocast your magic with resty. The autocast magic will deal a lot more damage then with a hexe 3) If you tried a staff like you said, you would see that the aspd is slower, but not as slow to the point where it sucks. the dps is made up for with the increased matk boost from stafffs You say its all about the damage when casting but you also say its all about magic swords and that a staff sucks. Take away the autocast from an enchanter and tell me whats left. WHere does the bulk of the damage come from? The magic sword? Now lets add a staff or magic staff. The autocasts get matk boosts from the enchanter passive, The staffs own attack power, magic amp, int and dex. making the autocasts, which are the bulk of the damage of an enchanter, a lot stronger than a magic swords autocasts. magic sword relys on int,enchanter passive and dex for matk boost for the casts. making the casts a lot weaker than with a staff or magic staff. Many enchanters focus to heavy on the actual atk stat and not enough on the matk that carries the playing style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 0:39:42 GMT
if enchanter took damage to too much care, why build a tank and use damage crystas? why not just go all out on damage as that's what you prefer?
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Apr 15, 2014 0:44:50 GMT
resty triggers when you get hit, that's why i call it the afk weapon since you basically use it to boost your magic dps at mobs that mostly use magic attacks., i'd say you can disregard dia espada since your magic damage will compensate or maybe do even more Was only thinking of afking at tigris x.x which wud hurt lol.....but the reason this won't work is that 1) autocast rates decrease like crazy when not holding magic swords 2) from my knowledge resty has no autocast magic besides sb 3) aspd slow as hell 4) It wouldn't be afking because u would have to cast enchant every 5 mins due to lack of magic casting 5) sb autocast would be worthless if u truly went afk. These problems are easily averted by adding a ciel...But you didn't include that in your main idea lol...all in all afking w/hexe is not only more efficient but faster and allows you to freely afk :3 mind you i said magic mobs, you can use resty, with ciel, with dpr up, you'd be stacking magic attack % with resty and spellboost. your main damage as Tilt mentioned comes from the enchant buff, without it your dps is just 1-3k per whack. i've heard dpr up's autoskill triggers nicely and hits like 5k at 2k matk.
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Post by aroxis on Apr 15, 2014 1:43:00 GMT
Was only thinking of afking at tigris x.x which wud hurt lol.....but the reason this won't work is that 1) autocast rates decrease like crazy when not holding magic swords 2) from my knowledge resty has no autocast magic besides sb 3) aspd slow as hell 4) It wouldn't be afking because u would have to cast enchant every 5 mins due to lack of magic casting 5) sb autocast would be worthless if u truly went afk. These problems are easily averted by adding a ciel...But you didn't include that in your main idea lol...all in all afking w/hexe is not only more efficient but faster and allows you to freely afk :3 1)No enchanter skill increases auto cast based on having a magic sword. You should know that as an enchanter yourself. 2) With the autoskill boosts and the matk boost from resty, you will still autocast your magic with resty. The autocast magic will deal a lot more damage then with a hexe 3) If you tried a staff like you said, you would see that the aspd is slower, but not as slow to the point where it sucks. the dps is made up for with the increased matk boost from stafffs You say its all about the damage when casting but you also say its all about magic swords and that a staff sucks. Take away the autocast from an enchanter and tell me whats left. WHere does the bulk of the damage come from? The magic sword? Now lets add a staff or magic staff. The autocasts get matk boosts from the enchanter passive, The staffs own attack power, magic amp, int and dex. making the autocasts, which are the bulk of the damage of an enchanter, a lot stronger than a magic swords autocasts. magic sword relys on int,enchanter passive and dex for matk boost for the casts. making the casts a lot weaker than with a staff or magic staff. Many enchanters focus to heavy on the actual atk stat and not enough on the matk that carries the playing style. 1) I do use alot of weapons (fuma, dia, claw+) But I can firmly say that when a magic sword is eqqiped, autocasts appear much more often. Since you're not an ench you have no way of proving me wrong. 2) This still wont work...."YAY I GET MATK BOOST FROM SB AND MAGIC AMP....O PIE...IM AFK...SO I CAN'T BUFF MYSELF....SO I CANT AUTOCAST ANYTHING...." 3) Staff....vs sword.......Slow melee....slow autocast....but wait....you can't even autocast because YOU ARE AWAY FROM KEYBOARD....by using hexe you can still cast while afk..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 1:44:46 GMT
1)No enchanter skill increases auto cast based on having a magic sword. You should know that as an enchanter yourself. 2) With the autoskill boosts and the matk boost from resty, you will still autocast your magic with resty. The autocast magic will deal a lot more damage then with a hexe 3) If you tried a staff like you said, you would see that the aspd is slower, but not as slow to the point where it sucks. the dps is made up for with the increased matk boost from stafffs You say its all about the damage when casting but you also say its all about magic swords and that a staff sucks. Take away the autocast from an enchanter and tell me whats left. WHere does the bulk of the damage come from? The magic sword? Now lets add a staff or magic staff. The autocasts get matk boosts from the enchanter passive, The staffs own attack power, magic amp, int and dex. making the autocasts, which are the bulk of the damage of an enchanter, a lot stronger than a magic swords autocasts. magic sword relys on int,enchanter passive and dex for matk boost for the casts. making the casts a lot weaker than with a staff or magic staff. Many enchanters focus to heavy on the actual atk stat and not enough on the matk that carries the playing style. 1) I do use alot of weapons (fuma, dia, claw+) But I can firmly say that when a magic sword is eqqiped, autocasts appear much more often. Since you're not an ench you have no way of proving me wrong. 2) This still wont work...."YAY I GET MATK BOOST FROM SB AND MAGIC AMP....O PIE...IM AFK...SO I CAN'T BUFF MYSELF....SO I CANT AUTOCAST ANYTHING...." 3) Staff....vs sword.......Slow melee....slow autocast....but wait....you can't even autocast because YOU ARE AWAY FROM KEYBOARD....by using hexe you can still cast while afk.. idk about being afk, thats senpia's thing, im talking about normal game play
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Apr 15, 2014 1:54:23 GMT
1)No enchanter skill increases auto cast based on having a magic sword. You should know that as an enchanter yourself. 2) With the autoskill boosts and the matk boost from resty, you will still autocast your magic with resty. The autocast magic will deal a lot more damage then with a hexe 3) If you tried a staff like you said, you would see that the aspd is slower, but not as slow to the point where it sucks. the dps is made up for with the increased matk boost from stafffs You say its all about the damage when casting but you also say its all about magic swords and that a staff sucks. Take away the autocast from an enchanter and tell me whats left. WHere does the bulk of the damage come from? The magic sword? Now lets add a staff or magic staff. The autocasts get matk boosts from the enchanter passive, The staffs own attack power, magic amp, int and dex. making the autocasts, which are the bulk of the damage of an enchanter, a lot stronger than a magic swords autocasts. magic sword relys on int,enchanter passive and dex for matk boost for the casts. making the casts a lot weaker than with a staff or magic staff. Many enchanters focus to heavy on the actual atk stat and not enough on the matk that carries the playing style. 1) I do use alot of weapons (fuma, dia, claw+) But I can firmly say that when a magic sword is eqqiped, autocasts appear much more often. Since you're not an ench you have no way of proving me wrong. 2) This still wont work...."YAY I GET MATK BOOST FROM SB AND MAGIC AMP....O PIE...IM AFK...SO I CAN'T BUFF MYSELF....SO I CANT AUTOCAST ANYTHING...." 3) Staff....vs sword.......Slow melee....slow autocast....but wait....you can't even autocast because YOU ARE AWAY FROM KEYBOARD....by using hexe you can still cast while afk.. as i mentioned, my afk idea relies on the dpr up autoskill, if you bothered READING. also your dps would still suck with hexe without the enchant weapon, and afk doesn't mean "let me go to the movies while i leave my phone here"
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Post by aroxis on Apr 15, 2014 1:55:22 GMT
Was only thinking of afking at tigris x.x which wud hurt lol.....but the reason this won't work is that 1) autocast rates decrease like crazy when not holding magic swords 2) from my knowledge resty has no autocast magic besides sb 3) aspd slow as hell 4) It wouldn't be afking because u would have to cast enchant every 5 mins due to lack of magic casting 5) sb autocast would be worthless if u truly went afk. These problems are easily averted by adding a ciel...But you didn't include that in your main idea lol...all in all afking w/hexe is not only more efficient but faster and allows you to freely afk :3 mind you i said magic mobs, you can use resty, with ciel, with dpr up, you'd be stacking magic attack % with resty and spellboost. your main damage as Tilt mentioned comes from the enchant buff, without it your dps is just 1-3k per whack. i've heard dpr up's autoskill triggers nicely and hits like 5k at 2k matk. With a staff you deal about 700 melee.....dpr autocasts about 1/5 hits WITH AUTOSKILL BUFF so even lesser chance when afk and you cant buff. ...Now you just added ciel to your build so that makes your plan a bit more logical....but with no autoskill buff it will barly occur...you can go up to 7 or so hits w/o casting it...
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