reapred
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Post by reapred on Oct 1, 2015 5:18:23 GMT
So this is copy and pasted. I was explaining to a friend on Kik why the beast knight class is the most advanced, balanced and difficult class to play
Beast knights do use claws but using a claw means a 5 stat hybrid. A sword beast knight uses 4.
Beast knights are unique in that you only max vit and if your a 4 stat hybrid you max 2.
The reason I love beast knight it is the most balanced class invest in 5 freaking stats and your as the class states still a beast.
Here's the issue.
Only 1-2 stats can be continually built on. All other stats must have a self cap of 50-150 depending on whether you choose 4 stat build or 5 stat. To be honest a 5 stat build is difficult. Beast knights need at least 100int because the skills are so mana intensive. Beast knights need strength for there skills to be powerful. Beast knights need crit to pull off certain passive skills. Beast knights need agi at least 100 so the clone works beast knights need maxed vit so they can have a aspd bonus as well as an attack bonus should they use a special sword(I use magic sword with knights gauntlent so I get the best of both). If you want to be able to spam skills at least 150 Dex is needed.
A beast knight class is amazing. The only requirement is vit. Every stat can be invested into and probably should whether you choose to have 50 str so you have 50 stats more else where is up too you. It is the most balanced and difficult class to master in game and I salute you Iruna.
That was what I wrote. No you can take this however you want but I will say this if you are not near pro-gaming lvl or Semi-pro gaming lvl with a decent amount of discipline you will not master this class.(or you can cheat and just buy a ton of stat reset books)
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Post by AnTz on Oct 3, 2015 2:43:29 GMT
IMO, A good build should be effective and efficient in allocating points. No need for INT if only for mp pool. Use edel hood up slot piton/ mani to get big mp pool. My paladin is VIT DEX STR n can have 3.2k mp, my gladiator is STR CRT VIT DEX n can have 2.2k mp. Both only 1 INT IMO, have CRT is optional. It only for auto attack build. Spec sword user/ spammer build dont need it
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 3, 2015 2:50:08 GMT
IMO, A good build should be effective and efficient in allocating points. No need for INT if only for mp pool. Use edel hood up slot piton/ mani to get big mp pool. My paladin is VIT DEX STR n can have 3.2k mp, my gladiator is STR CRT VIT DEX n can have 2.2k mp. Both only 1 INT IMO, have CRT is optional. It only for auto attack build. Spec sword user/ spammer build dont need it Does edel hood piton give that much mp? O.o now my derpy pally can now lessen his salt intake
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 3, 2015 5:24:45 GMT
IMO, A good build should be effective and efficient in allocating points. No need for INT if only for mp pool. Use edel hood up slot piton/ mani to get big mp pool. My paladin is VIT DEX STR n can have 3.2k mp, my gladiator is STR CRT VIT DEX n can have 2.2k mp. Both only 1 INT IMO, have CRT is optional. It only for auto attack build. Spec sword user/ spammer build dont need it Does edel hood piton give that much mp? O.o now my derpy pally can now lessen his salt intake Every equipment with int+? gives you the great amount of mp.
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Post by UIRepth on Oct 3, 2015 7:27:54 GMT
IMO, A good build should be effective and efficient in allocating points. No need for INT if only for mp pool. Use edel hood up slot piton/ mani to get big mp pool. My paladin is VIT DEX STR n can have 3.2k mp, my gladiator is STR CRT VIT DEX n can have 2.2k mp. Both only 1 INT IMO, have CRT is optional. It only for auto attack build. Spec sword user/ spammer build dont need it Does edel hood piton give that much mp? O.o now my derpy pally can now lessen his salt intake u gonna endup spaming salt right after u used up "xtra mp" from gear +mp/int gear only useful when u got mp% regen buff otherwise better get carol/trift III -30%mp consumption, 9%atk and 20%hate.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 3, 2015 10:17:10 GMT
Sorry worded it wrong i meant my derpy pally can now spam hardhit(only lv140) without much constraint T-T only vit/dex stat haha so mp pool quite problem
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rais
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problem iruna -_-
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Post by rais on Oct 3, 2015 12:05:10 GMT
If your stat vit dex str.u just waiting new special equip.it's give atk up by dex.good for spam your skill :-)
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Oct 4, 2015 9:18:45 GMT
Spreading stat points far too much.
...Center around vit. [It's the universally agreed upon stat.]
No class can do everything, examine vit's strong points and focus on what supports it.
+Bite +Ability to inflict bleed status +Passives
Then, specialize.
From what I see BK isn't meant to deal damage via the traditional roles.
Earlier I was discussing with a friend about this class. It's a low output dps class with an unique style of play.
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HaT®eD
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Post by HaT®eD on Nov 9, 2015 17:55:33 GMT
Yup..I also agree with tasm... Too much spread of stats...
You only need to choose one route:
Skill spammer: Vit=Dex>Str Mp pool only matters if you have regen or %mp pots -Having a huge mp pool won't matter: --Consumung 50mp and you still have to replace 50mp Adding int will just weaken your dmg and you'll still run out of mp eventually... (it's just like cutting your arms to delay a death sentence)
Or: Auto attack: Vit>Crit>Agi You don't need high agi because of diel style and you have high vit anyway so you just need it as a little boost in eva High Crit helps trigger bite for health regen And you always have berserk for max attackspeed [Havn't tried if bite interfere proc of 2slot claw-interfike/WoL]
Doing hybrid with only 100ish stats is not enough...you'll end up as a bk with a low proc rate on bite and a slow crappy skill dmg, then; die and miserably respawn (rinse, repeat) as other bk flies away to max lvl
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Post by ManaKhe on Nov 9, 2015 18:20:21 GMT
I don't feel as if BK's stat spread is unique at all lol. Skill spam is identical to Paladin pretty much, except DEX is prioritized over STR. They don't only max VIT, they will definitely work on DEX as a close second as well. This is true with almost every class.
Paladin maxes VIT as a max priority, then most likely puts points into STR or Red Lines. Sniper maxes DEX, then STR, then adds some CRT. Mblade Enchanter gets max INT and DEX(or 235/240 for Mblade) and then keeps INT and VIT as high as possible.
The auto attack build seems interesting... What weapon would that be using? If it's Special Sword then the CRT will lower ATK, if it's Claw then you won't have much AGI for ATK. I understand BK isn't really about damage but even Paladins think about damage in builds and this build seems like it would do basically no damage.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 9, 2015 21:43:06 GMT
I don't feel as if BK's stat spread is unique at all lol. Skill spam is identical to Paladin pretty much, except DEX is prioritized over STR. They don't only max VIT, they will definitely work on DEX as a close second as well. This is true with almost every class. Paladin maxes VIT as a max priority, then most likely puts points into STR or Red Lines. Sniper maxes DEX, then STR, then adds some CRT. Mblade Enchanter gets max INT and DEX(or 235/240 for Mblade) and then keeps INT and VIT as high as possible. The auto attack build seems interesting... What weapon would that be using? If it's Special Sword then the CRT will lower ATK, if it's Claw then you won't have much AGI for ATK. I understand BK isn't really about damage but even Paladins think about damage in builds and this build seems like it would do basically no damage. Actually, Pally focus on dex over str as well. There is no difference. >.<
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HaT®eD
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Post by HaT®eD on Nov 10, 2015 2:01:47 GMT
I don't feel as if BK's stat spread is unique at all lol. Skill spam is identical to Paladin pretty much, except DEX is prioritized over STR. They don't only max VIT, they will definitely work on DEX as a close second as well. This is true with almost every class. Paladin maxes VIT as a max priority, then most likely puts points into STR or Red Lines. Sniper maxes DEX, then STR, then adds some CRT. Mblade Enchanter gets max INT and DEX(or 235/240 for Mblade) and then keeps INT and VIT as high as possible. The auto attack build seems interesting... What weapon would that be using? If it's Special Sword then the CRT will lower ATK, if it's Claw then you won't have much AGI for ATK. I understand BK isn't really about damage but even Paladins think about damage in builds and this build seems like it would do basically no damage. Actually, Pally focus on dex over str as well. There is no difference. >.< Pally needs dex more than str to recast those buffs without loosing aggro (Pally got the most buffs from all the warrior class) Back to the topic.... Vit>Crit>Agi was made with tanking on mind and Pulis,Raton,Dorry as xtals If you wanna have high dps do Agi>Crit>Vit
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 10, 2015 3:17:07 GMT
Yup..I also agree with tasm... Too much spread of stats... You only need to choose one route: Skill spammer: Vit=Dex>Str Mp pool only matters if you have regen or %mp pots -Having a huge mp pool won't matter: --Consumung 50mp and you still have to replace 50mp Adding int will just weaken your dmg and you'll still run out of mp eventually... (it's just like cutting your arms to delay a death sentence) Or: Auto attack: Vit>Crit>Agi You don't need high agi because of diel style and you have high vit anyway so you just need it as a little boost in eva High Crit helps trigger bite for health regen And you always have berserk for max attackspeed [Havn't tried if bite interfere proc of 2slot claw-interfike/WoL] Doing hybrid with only 100ish stats is not enough...you'll end up as a bk with a low proc rate on bite and a slow crappy skill dmg, then; die and miserably respawn (rinse, repeat) as other bk flies away to max lvl I disagree your autoattack build. There is no weapon that can be used with that status. The damage will be very low. That means low generated hp with bite. For the interfike xtal, bite can cancel interfike autoskill, lossing mp.
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HaT®eD
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Post by HaT®eD on Jan 6, 2016 2:28:51 GMT
Vit>Crit>Agi You don't need high agi because of diel style and you have high vit anyway so you just need it as a little boost in eva High Crit helps trigger bite for health regen And you always have berserk for max attackspeed
Scratch this build it really is useless lols
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Jan 19, 2016 5:49:19 GMT
Would a vit/crt/str autoattack build work? higher damage with swords means stronger bites. I don't know how much aspd max vit provides though, since I'm still lv 111
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