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Post by Xyura on Sept 15, 2015 7:47:52 GMT
I'd like some opinions from everyone here. I'm VERY torn between the two @.@ Thanks in advance!  |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Sept 16, 2015 6:20:30 GMT
If you focus damage, ultimi is the answer.
If you focus on autoskill and lots of dajarte, ira will help.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Sept 16, 2015 15:27:51 GMT
If you focus damage, ultimi is the answer. If you focus on autoskill and lots of dajarte, ira will help. Haven't seen Ultimi2's stats, but why would it be better than Ira for dmg? What I don't like about Ira (for any class other than NIN) is that -25% Phy res |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 16, 2015 16:39:01 GMT
If you focus damage, ultimi is the answer. If you focus on autoskill and lots of dajarte, ira will help. Haven't seen Ultimi2's stats, but why would it be better than Ira for dmg? What I don't like about Ira (for any class other than NIN) is that -25% Phy res Idk also ultimi2 full stats but id rather spend spina on other xtals rather than buying mats for ultimi upg ~150m for raton and saw Almas for ~70m x.x thats just not worth it imo so i vote for Ira since monks also do have great evasion  |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Sept 16, 2015 16:51:42 GMT
ultimi
DEF: 15-20-21 MATK + 6%, Critical up, delay 0.5 seconds, hit +50, absolute eva + 5%, melee +100
ultimi (enhanced version)
DEF: 15-21 ATK + 3% MATK + 10%, Critical up, delay 0.5 seconds, hit +100, absolute evasion + 7% melee +300
the upgraded version is really not worth it's price
and as for damage, ira imo wins because it lets you use daiginjo efficiently. which leaves you at crt dmg+22% atk+12% autoskill+17% vs using ultimi with whatever else.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Sept 16, 2015 21:01:10 GMT
If you focus damage, ultimi is the answer. If you focus on autoskill and lots of dajarte, ira will help. Haven't seen Ultimi2's stats, but why would it be better than Ira for dmg? What I don't like about Ira (for any class other than NIN) is that -25% Phy res Ultimi gives +10%cri damage, that is useful for monk. Monk don't have any +cri damage% from skill. That is all my reason. |
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Post by Xyura on Sept 17, 2015 12:12:04 GMT
Thank you for all the answers But what if I rely more on Shell Break? Since I'm Agi/Crit/Int build. Would Ira be better than Ultimi? |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Sept 17, 2015 14:50:50 GMT
Thank you for all the answers But what if I rely more on Shell Break? Since I'm Agi/Crit/Int build. Would Ira be better than Ultimi? ira imo wins because it lets you use daiginjo efficiently. which leaves you at crt dmg+22% atk+12% autoskill+17% vs using ultimi with whatever else. |
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rais
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problem iruna -_-
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Post by rais on Sept 17, 2015 23:42:13 GMT
Ira armor for focus damage & fight mob normal (leveling).
Ultimi up for focus damage/delay (item delay & skill delay)/absol.eva (for help crt damage from monster)/melee
Good for leveling & farm
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Post by tarm on Sept 22, 2015 6:53:26 GMT
Ira! ... In a difficult boss ... d.mail up ... Ultimi only takes place...
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Post by rahovart on Dec 12, 2015 18:17:20 GMT
Ultimi up seems way to expensive to be worth the effort imo. I get why alot of people choose ira but the -25% phy resist seems kinda bad considering monks don't have a ton of hp/def to begin with, but between the two I'd go ira. Personally I use heinrich up because of its hidden abi and tentacion for sd.
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Post by GeoSmasher on Dec 13, 2015 3:22:51 GMT
Ira better with Dajarte, seem Dajarte's autoskill dmg is (ATK*2 + MATK*4), but Phys Res -25% make monk get hit harder
For Ultimi up, its take so much spina and not worth it, If you choose Ultimi, you must wait for the 3rd upgrade to get the best Ultimi
If you like survival style, use Schwermer but don't put Dajarte on it, (Dajarte consume Counter autoskill of Schwermer)
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Post by asderota on Dec 14, 2015 13:45:52 GMT
i must say that i hav these 3 armors, ira, d mail and ultimi. and well my ultimi is in the storage since i got d mail, i prefer dmail and ira ultimi is not god for me for some reasons, even lvl 2 ultimi is a crap the xtal needed for the stats given dont worth it, and since i dont known if even will be a third upgrade i pass upg it.
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Post by coreyrudd35 on Jan 8, 2016 15:52:25 GMT
Has anyone tested scheremer against ira? And which would be better over all? Explain if u can please.
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Post by coreyrudd35 on Jan 8, 2016 15:54:50 GMT
Has anyone tested scheremer against ira? And which would be better over all? Explain if u can please. Like what if u put dorry on scheremer is it better then ira with dorry? |
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