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Post by meizi on Jun 25, 2015 0:02:09 GMT
The way you guys put it.. makes me feel like enchanter class are the bottom 2 classes? Why like tis  |
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 25, 2015 4:27:40 GMT
The way you guys put it.. makes me feel like enchanter class are the bottom 2 classes? Why like tis Enchanter=easiest tank to heal in most situations+1 of the best soloers+completely self sustaining+doesn't care about status effects at all. Damage isn't everything  In terms of damage it is one of the lowest damage classes in the game but it does everything else really well. Like seriously Paladins can out damage Enchanters on some bosses. For regular mobs its definitely good enough for it to not matter at all. It USED to be arguably the worst/2nd worst class in the game overall. That however hasn't been the case for a while and the other class that used to be pretty awful(Monk) has gotten way better as well. Some people still think Enchanters are useless but it isn't really all that common anymore. |
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Post by meizi on Jun 25, 2015 4:41:32 GMT
The way you guys put it.. makes me feel like enchanter class are the bottom 2 classes? Why like tis Enchanter=easiest tank to heal in most situations+1 of the best soloers+completely self sustaining+doesn't care about status effects at all. Damage isn't everything In terms of damage it is one of the lowest damage classes in the game but it does everything else really well. Like seriously Paladins can out damage Enchanters on some bosses. For regular mobs its definitely good enough for it to not matter at all. It USED to be arguably the worst/2nd worst class in the game overall. That however hasn't been the case for a while and the other class that used to be pretty awful(Monk) has gotten way better as well. Some people still think Enchanters are useless but it isn't really all that common anymore. Well enchanter is a unique class on its own, it shouldn't be just a support class imo. Other classes are copying enchanters to use auto, we have no edge. E.g bishop heal more than other classes to be specialise healer, why enchanter cannot do more dmg with their auto as their speciality? I really hope they will do more to improve this class.  |
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 25, 2015 5:35:11 GMT
Enchanter=easiest tank to heal in most situations+1 of the best soloers+completely self sustaining+doesn't care about status effects at all. Damage isn't everything In terms of damage it is one of the lowest damage classes in the game but it does everything else really well. Like seriously Paladins can out damage Enchanters on some bosses. For regular mobs its definitely good enough for it to not matter at all. It USED to be arguably the worst/2nd worst class in the game overall. That however hasn't been the case for a while and the other class that used to be pretty awful(Monk) has gotten way better as well. Some people still think Enchanters are useless but it isn't really all that common anymore. Well enchanter is a unique class on its own, it shouldn't be just a support class imo. Other classes are copying enchanters to use auto, we have no edge. E.g bishop heal more than other classes to be specialise healer, why enchanter cannot do more dmg with their auto as their speciality? I really hope they will do more to improve this class. The thing is that Enchanter is more of tank than a DPS. Their specialty is pretty much tanking at this point. Their specialty used to be nothing/mp slave. They tank as well as Paladin's pretty much. They also get a good bit higher damage potential when Extend comes out with auto skills. At the moment they are better with Magic Blade though. They however shouldn't do anywhere near the same damage as say a Geo Monk, Assassin, or Sniper as that would be OP. Enchanters+Paladins seem to be staying about the same damage wise overall. |
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Post by meizi on Jun 25, 2015 6:10:22 GMT
Well enchanter is a unique class on its own, it shouldn't be just a support class imo. Other classes are copying enchanters to use auto, we have no edge. E.g bishop heal more than other classes to be specialise healer, why enchanter cannot do more dmg with their auto as their speciality? I really hope they will do more to improve this class. The thing is that Enchanter is more of tank than a DPS. Their specialty is pretty much tanking at this point. Their specialty used to be nothing/mp slave. They tank as well as Paladin's pretty much. They also get a good bit higher damage potential when Extend comes out with auto skills. At the moment they are better with Magic Blade though. They however shouldn't do anywhere near the same damage as say a Geo Monk, Assassin, or Sniper as that would be OP. Enchanters+Paladins seem to be staying about the same damage wise overall. Hee I heard paladin have their 1 mil dmg? XD |
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Post by shn on Jun 25, 2015 10:46:58 GMT
Assassin, Rogue or whatever you want to name this type of character in almost every mmorpg is best class in terms of dps (mostly single target). Its also class that is easy to play but hard to master so best dps output is reserved only for top players.
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Post by snake on Jun 25, 2015 13:39:02 GMT
The thing is that Enchanter is more of tank than a DPS. Their specialty is pretty much tanking at this point. Their specialty used to be nothing/mp slave. They tank as well as Paladin's pretty much. They also get a good bit higher damage potential when Extend comes out with auto skills. At the moment they are better with Magic Blade though. They however shouldn't do anywhere near the same damage as say a Geo Monk, Assassin, or Sniper as that would be OP. Enchanters+Paladins seem to be staying about the same damage wise overall. Hee I heard paladin have their 1 mil dmg? XD yes, but 1. Not yet released 2. Can't/hard to use in pt |
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Post by asteg on Jun 25, 2015 15:27:25 GMT
If iruna did what i was thinking awhile ago pally right now could do 1.2m dmg+ o.o
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 26, 2015 1:34:29 GMT
The thing is that Enchanter is more of tank than a DPS. Their specialty is pretty much tanking at this point. Their specialty used to be nothing/mp slave. They tank as well as Paladin's pretty much. They also get a good bit higher damage potential when Extend comes out with auto skills. At the moment they are better with Magic Blade though. They however shouldn't do anywhere near the same damage as say a Geo Monk, Assassin, or Sniper as that would be OP. Enchanters+Paladins seem to be staying about the same damage wise overall. Hee I heard paladin have their 1 mil dmg? XD Hard to use+can only be used like every 10 seconds or so. Assuming it is 10 seconds, and assuming it always hits 1mil(I'm pretty sure it does less a lot of times) then they would only be doing 100k damage per second. If you've watched the Enchanter videos posted earlier in this thread you would see an Enchanter doing more damage than that per second. Paladin and Enchanter have been very well balanced off of each other since Magic Blade came out. |
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Post by Roxzen on Jun 26, 2015 1:44:38 GMT
 Nuff said :v Assassin ftw! Lol just my opinion tho |
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Post by Aroxis on Jun 26, 2015 2:07:30 GMT
Nuff said :v Assassin ftw! Lol just my opinion tho Even flarius changed from his old solo build o.o i guess that solo build gets u only so far. |
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Post by quitted on Jun 26, 2015 13:42:33 GMT
In all rpgs i play i generally play as the character that can deal the most damage and was wondering which class would be best fit for that playstyle. I read a few guides and saw that the gladiator is a fast attacker but the samurai deals high damage but slowly. I'd like to hear the community's thoughts on this after i watched youtube below, i think samurai is defintely is in top 3 of highest DPS jobs, that samurai use dual blow,a pet skill. gladiator's DPS probably cant beat that samurai, but gladiators have better DPS/tanking balance and lower MP cost. upcoming lv260 gladiator's skill able to make all gladiator's MP cost become fixed 1MP, I cant wait for that,definitely will blow my mind. |
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Post by glaubr on Jun 26, 2015 18:44:26 GMT
 Hwiz lol |
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Jun 26, 2015 21:38:21 GMT
Hwiz lol Did you only cast drain? XD |
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Post by Killua on Jun 27, 2015 23:13:46 GMT
Well if we're talking about dps based on mathematical calculations I suggest assassin o.o in my perspective its currently assassins currently hold the highest DPS while still maintaining more Eva than ninjas with full Agi. So if we take an average backstab of 100k/1 sec = 1m dmg per 10 secs o.o then theres the double bs proc rate which is 33% with full crt so 200k 3 times per 10 bs or more. So o3o 1.3m dmg per 10 secs. Idk any other classes that can deal more average dmg than that in 10 seconds.
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